Elon Privates Chat

“World War Eleven” Yes, that was deadly

Today is the start of a very important day in the AI world... the trial between Elon and Sam/OpenAI begins today in Oakland Federal Court. The jury selection is happening right now in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California and opening arguments are expected Tuesday. The civil jury trial is projected to last 2-4 weeks, with Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers making the final call. So let me tell you why this fight all came about. 1/ In 2015 Elon co-founded OpenAI with Sam Altman and others as a nonprofit to develop artificial general intelligence safely and openly for the benefit of all humanity... this was supposed to NOT be for profit or for closed corporate control. Elon was a major early funder, contributing around $38-44 million (~60% of early seed funding) plus resources like compute and recruiting. 2/ Then, Elon left the board in 2018 over disagreements for the direction of the company and Microsoft’s growing role of the company. 3/ Later, OpenAI took billions from Microsoft, restructured with a for-profit arm, initially “capped profit,” now more commercial... went closed-source in practice, and exploded in value with ChatGPT. FYI, the current valuation of OpenAI now sits at ~$852 billion and the company recently completed restructuring with a for-profit entity reporting into a nonprofit foundation. Now, with the trial, Elon is saying Altman, Brockman, and OpenAI breached the founding charitable trust and agreement by turning it into a “wealth machine” that prioritizes profits and insiders over the original mission. He claims they deceived him about their plans... This lawsuit was originally filed in November 2024, was withdrawn, and then revived in early 2026. And just this Friday, April 24, Elon voluntarily dropped the fraud claims to “streamline” the case and keep the jury focused on the mission issue... proceeding on breach of charitable trust and unjust enrichment. This is what Elon is looking to get back from Sam and OpenAI: a/ substantial damages, with stakes in the $100B+ range, with many reports saying it's in the range of ~$134B and the winnings will be given to the nonprofit/charity arm and will NOT benefit Elon personally b/ possible unwinding/restructuring to restore the original nonprofit mission c/ leadership changes (e.g., getting rid of Altman/Brockman from key roles). On the other side, OpenAI is claiming: a/ Elon knew about and once supported commercialization steps, saying he even explored merging with Tesla or gaining control himself b/ OpenAI calls the suit competitive sabotage from rival Elon's company xAI and says this is driven by jealousy over OpenAI’s success This is SUCH an important trial in the world of AI... people may not fully understand. The reason is bc Elon has repeatedly warned that profit-driven, closed-source AGI is very dangerous. This is his chance to enforce the original “benefit humanity” mission he helped create and walked away from in 2018. A big win will hurt OpenAI’s valuation, upcoming IPO plans, Microsoft partnership, and market dominance/customer perspective of the company... and this will also force real changes in how the world’s leading AI lab operates, influencing the entire AI race and future regulations. For me, Sam Altman straight up CANNOT be trusted with the future of AGI, and this trial proves why Elon was right to fight it. This is the same guy who got fired by his own board in 2023 for not being “consistently candid,” then crawled back in and turned the nonprofit “open for humanity” promise into a closed-source, Microsoft-bankrolled profit machine worth hundreds of billions. Elon was the one who put up the early cash and vision to keep AI safe and beneficial for all of us... not to create a trillion-dollar insider club. If Altman gets away with rewriting the rules after the fact, it sets a dangerous precedent that mission-driven tech is just marketing fluff. I believe Elon isn’t doing this for ego or rivalry... he’s really doing it bc someone has to hold the line before profit-over-people AGI becomes unstoppable. This one’s personal for the man who actually wants to understand the universe instead of just cashing in on it. Humanity needs Elon to win. And that's who I'm rooting for!

He is “Scam Altman”. Why? Because the pattern is obvious. • Founded OpenAI in 2015 as a nonprofit “for humanity” — Elon left in 2018 when it started going closed and profit-first. Now it’s basically a Microsoft subsidiary chasing billions while pretending it’s still open. • In 2023 the entire board fired him. Their words: “not consistently candid in his communications.” That’s corporate for “we can’t trust a word he says.” • Ilya Sutskever compiled 70 pages of internal docs — Slack messages, HR records — and the first line was “Sam exhibits a consistent pattern of… Lying.” • He lied to the board about safety reviews. Told them GPT-4 features were approved — they weren’t. Pushed product launches without proper checks. • Promised safety teams huge compute for alignment — they got scraps while the money went to shiny products. Top safety people quit saying the company went “off the rails.” • This isn’t new. Got pushed out of his first startup for “deceptive and chaotic behavior.” Same story at Y Combinator. • Uses harsh NDAs to silence ex-employees. Pits people against each other. Says whatever keeps him in power. The guy now running OpenAI has a long, documented history of not being straight with the people who are supposed to watch him. That’s why “Scam Altman” sticks. The New Yorker piece just put receipts on what Elon’s been saying for years. Read the article if you can. The stakes are too high for anything less than total honesty at the top.

Scam Altman has a incredible track record for being a con artist I don't think anyone has a "former ally turned enemy" list this big with directly with people he worked with A massive new 18-month investigation dropped, revealing the full list of people who worked directly with Sam Altman and now openly say they don’t trust him - they call him a liar, manipulator, scam artist, and worse These are his co-founders, board members, top executives, and biggest partners. Not random haters: • Elon Musk (OpenAI co-founder) ➝ Betrayed the original nonprofit, open & safe AI mission and turned it into a closed profit machine What he says: Calls him "Scam Altman" and “Sam Altman lies as easily as he breathes” • Ilya Sutskever (OpenAI co-founder & former Chief Scientist) Why: Discovered Sam repeatedly lied about safety protocols and bypassed board oversight. What he says/did: Compiled 70+ pages of memos, Slack messages, and evidence proving Sam’s lies → helped fire him. Said he didn’t think “Sam is the guy who should have his finger on the button for AGI” • Dario Amodei (former OpenAI President, now Anthropic CEO) Why: Left because of Sam’s leadership and broken safety promises What he says: “The problem with OpenAI is Sam himself.” Called the company under Sam "mendacious” (full of lies) and compared it to Big Tobacco knowingly selling something dangerous. Accused him of a clear “pattern of behavior” • Helen Toner (former OpenAI Board Member) Why: Sam made it impossible for the board to do its job through constant deception What she says: He was “outright lying to the board” and created a “toxic atmosphere” of psychological pressure • Tasha McCauley (former OpenAI Board Member) Why: Complete loss of trust after years of the same behavior What she says: Senior leaders reported Sam cultivated a “toxic culture of lying” • Jan Leike (former Superalignment co-lead) Why: Sam deprioritized real safety work for shiny products What he says: Resigned publicly saying he “lost confidence” in OpenAI leadership and that the company was “losing its way” on alignment • Mira Murati (former CTO - one of Sam’s closest longtime collaborators) Why: Lost all confidence in his leadership as they approached AGI What she says: Told insiders “I don’t feel comfortable about Sam leading us to AGI” and said his playbook is to say whatever he needs to get what he wants, and if that fails, destroy your credibility • Microsoft executives (including major tensions with CEO Satya Nadella) Why: Felt constantly misled on deals and partnerships What they say: A senior exec warned he could be remembered as a “Bernie Madoff or Sam Bankman-Fried-level scammer” • Paul Graham (Y Combinator co-founder - Sam was YC President) Why: Long pattern of deception during his time running YC What he says: Privately told YC colleagues, “Sam had been lying to us all the time" • Loopt board & early employees (Sam’s first startup) Why: History of chaotic and deceptive behavior What they did: Employees went to the board twice trying to get him fired over lack of honesty and shady behavior These are his co-founders, board members, closest executives, and major partners who actually worked with him all say the exact same things - chronic lying, manipulation, broken trust, toxic culture, scam & deception

In 1913, only 1% of households filed income tax Now, 100% do. Every time a tax scheme is created, it starts with "just the rich" and quickly applies to everyone. Every time. California will seize assets of every citizen if this passes. Not income, assets. Your house. Your furniture. This would end the Golden State.

The main difference between Elon Musk and Scam Altman: Elon Musk actually changes the world for the better and saves lives: Tesla accelerates clean energy and has saved thousands of lives on the roads. SpaceX is making humanity multi-planetary. Starlink connects and saves millions in wars and disasters. Neuralink gives hope to the paralyzed. He pays a very heavy personal price for it — endless attacks, lawsuits, media smears, and a broken personal life. Scam Altman? He mostly just takes. His technology (ChatGPT) still struggles to genuinely help people with real problems — hallucinations, lies, and fabrications instead of real answers. He turned OpenAI from “for the benefit of humanity” into a profit machine. And the suspicious death of whistleblower researcher Suchir Balaji, who was highly critical of OpenAI, still raises serious unanswered questions. One builds the future and saves lives. The other takes the money and plays games.

Elon Musk turned down all shares when he left OpenAI because he believed nonprofits are not meant for self-enrichment. "The reason I founded OpenAI was because I was concerned, based on my conversations with Larry Page, that he was not sufficiently concerned about the dangers of AI. At my birthday party, he, in front of a large group of people, called me a speciesist, for favoring humanity over computers. So after that, I was like, We got to have some counterbalance to Google, because Larry doesn't seem to care if humans make it or not. So I thought, what's the opposite of Google? It would be an open source nonprofit, and that's where the word open, in OpenAI comes from. It means open source. I provided all the money, recruited the key people, and taught them everything I know. I actually even got them to deal with Microsoft. And for all that, I did not seek any financial reward whatsoever. The reason I actually took down the offer for shares is because, I mean, I felt like what are the shares, and why like nonprofits supposed to have shares? Nonprofits are not supposed to be self enrichment, so that's why I turned on the offer of shares." — Elon Musk

🇬🇧 “If I criticize a Jew, I'm antisemitic. If I criticize a Muslim, I'm Islamophobic. And what are you, if you criticize me? What are you if you try to replace me?” He has a point