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@JonRosstweets @CatholicArena Nothing in Catholicism contradicts what you said. I don’t follow a pope over Christ.

@srjohnson529 @CatholicArena According to the Bible, we are supposed to follow God (and Jesus Christ as Lord and Head of the Church) above any human leader, including a Pope.

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops has released a response to JD Vance's comments about Pope Leo XIV: 'For over a thousand years, the Catholic Church has taught just war theory and it is that long tradition the Holy Father carefully references in his comments on war. A constant tenet of that thousand-year tradition is a nation can only legitimately take up the sword ‘in self-defense, once all peace efforts have failed’ That is, to be a just war it must be a defense against another who actively wages war, which is what the Holy Father actually said: ‘He does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war. When Pope Leo XIV speaks as supreme pastor of the universal Church, he is not merely offering opinions on theology, he is preaching the Gospel and exercising his ministry as the Vicar of Christ. The consistent teaching of the Church is insistent that all people of good will must pray and work toward lasting peace while avoiding the evils and injustices that accompany all wars'

@JonRosstweets @CatholicArena Pope Leo is the shepherd of Christ’s flock on earth. You are a heretic. Repent and return to Christ’s one true Church.

You would be far better off denouncing this false pope. Attempting to justify his remarks directly contradicts the Bible. At least you and your fellow false believers are openly outing yourselves as anti-God. We now know exactly who you are, and we will treat you accordingly, as the fake believers you have shown yourselves to be.

@TracerBuIlet Are you co-equal and co-eternal with God?

No. I believe I am a child of God, not just one of His creations.

I’d be happy to attempt an explanation for you. If my explanation is not clear, please ask for clarification. The divine nature is one. It cannot be multiplied or divided. It is not composed of parts—not even metaphysical parts such as form and matter, substance and accidents, or even essence and existence. The divine nature is supremely simple and pure spirit. Spirit, in the traditional Christian system, is that which knows and loves. In other words, to be spiritual is to be personal, because only persons know and love. Humans are spiritual. Angels are spiritual. God is Spirit, as Scripture states, but He is not a spirit among other spirits. He is pure and infinite Spirit. As pure and infinite Spirit, what does God know and what does God love? Finite creation, of course—which He does, and by so doing brings and sustains creation in being. But before (logically, not temporally) knowing and loving His creation, God first knows and loves Himself. In knowing Himself, God generates the perfect image of Himself. Because God is perfect, His idea of Himself is perfect. His idea of Himself contains all and lacks nothing that is proper to the divine nature—infinite power, perfection, goodness, being, life, and personhood. If God’s idea of Himself lacked anything proper to the divine nature, this would imply an imperfection in the knowledge or power of God. This generated idea is God’s own self-image and is the exact imprint of the divine substance. Our own generated self-images are only analogous to this. We can know ourselves better or worse, but even the clearest self-representations of ourselves lack realness, because we are not all-powerful. Not so with God. His self-image is all that God is, and since this sameness is received through generation, He is known as Son and is the second person of the Blessed Trinity. The divine nature is perfect, as I have already said, and as perfect cannot but be loved and desired. Thus, the Son cannot but love the Father, and the Father cannot but love the Son. In this full, unrestrained, and mutual outpouring of love between the first two persons of the divine nature, the third person of the Blessed Trinity is breathed forth by both Father and Son. Love is nothing other than the free and total movement of the self toward the other. The whole self is offered to the other as gift and is received as gift. The pouring out of self for the other, in the divine nature, is a complete and reciprocal offering of all that the divine nature is—eternal, infinite, and personal. Make sense?

@firstEstateKLB Idk if that’s a strawman or not… bc nobody has been able to explain it to me yet

Am I doing this trinity thing right?

@MattTestifies There is no evidence for your religion's claim. Also, different doctrine, different starting point = different religion. Mormonism is not and cannot be Christianity as the latter was founded 2000 years ago by Jesus Christ.

Unbroken line of leaders is not the same thing as unbroken priesthood authority. We believe Christ’s authority left with the apostles and was restored by heavenly messengers. Different doctrine, different starting point.

@CTRyoda @Lets_Talk_HC I cannot understand your question. It was so poorly written. Rephrase it.

@srjohnson529 @Lets_Talk_HC So you decided to respond by saying nothing did you think before saying nothing? Or is this an attempt to dodge because you know you can’t dispute it?

God never revealed the Trinity #christian #bible #jesus #lds #mormon

@CTRyoda @Lets_Talk_HC Did you even think before you typed that out?

@srjohnson529 @Lets_Talk_HC The cannons closed. The church does not claim revelation so by what authority do they add the authority of popular consent When called by Constantine a sun, God worshiper to do so

@TeeplesCY Cope. Catholics don’t recognize Mormon baptism. It is not evangelicals only.

The “Mormons aren’t Christians” movement is nothing more than a small but loud corner of American evangelicalism. That argument has now lost. Not faded. Not weakened. Lost. It no longer persuades the public, and it no longer commands moral authority. What remains is noise, produced for self-confirmation rather than persuasion, repeating claims the rest of the country has already moved past. The reason is simple. Americans know what Christians look like. And they know Latter-day Saints. They know Latter-day Saints as people who worship Jesus Christ openly and constantly. Who pray in His name. Who center weekly worship on His atoning sacrifice. Who teach their children to follow Him. Who organize their entire religious life around His resurrection. For almost everyone who is asked, that settles the question. Repeated surveys confirm it. A clear majority of Americans regard Latter-day Saints as Christian, including many who disagree with their theology or would never join the Church. They still recognize Christian faith when they see it. The real fight is not over Jesus Christ. Latter-day Saints affirm His divinity, His Atonement, and His literal resurrection without hesitation. That is not where the argument lives. The disagreement turns on something else. When evangelicals say Latter-day Saints aren’t Christian, they are often defending a philosophical definition of God shaped by Greek thought. When Latter-day Saints say they are Christian, they are pointing to something simpler and older: worship of Jesus Christ as the resurrected Savior. You can disagree with that claim. But you cannot honestly say it places Latter-day Saints outside the Christian story altogether. Teachings evangelicals portray as wildly unchristian, including belief in an embodied Father or distinct divine persons, were taught and believed by many early Christians. Scholars have shown these ideas were common in the first centuries, before later church authorities narrowed acceptable belief through frameworks shaped heavily by Greek philosophy. They are not historical oddities. They are part of Christianity’s early record. That is why the heresy label now rings hollow. It is not grounded in how Christianity began, but in how certain groups later decided its boundaries should be enforced. And enforcement is exactly how it feels. The most telling feature of today’s “Mormons aren’t Christian” rhetoric is its irrelevance. It persists in online echo chambers and almost nowhere else. Outside those circles, the verdict is already in. Latter-day Saints are widely recognized as Christians. Their faith is visible, durable, and centered on Jesus Christ. The attempt to deny that reality no longer persuades anyone who is not already committed to denying it. America has spoken. Ancient history is on its side. And momentum points the same way. Latter-day Saints are Christian.

@dyyrStraits @EricCMeadows Retarded and ahistorical, just like the rest of Mormon theology.

@srjohnson529 @EricCMeadows Three gods who are one. Of course, we're polytheist, just like Paul.

I deny the trinity. They are separate beings. One in purpose Also, Jesus Christ is my judge, not you. Don’t try to take His place.

Give it time. Anglicanism grew for a while on Catholic steam. Now look at it. It botched moral teaching from the start and is now facing the consequences. Mormonism has likewise grown for a time on largely Protestant steam. Its moral teaching is corrupt, and it too will die a slow death. It will continue to capitulate until nothing is left.

@ComeHometoRome Acts 5- the Gamaliel Test. It will probably just come to nothing, right? Hardly worth your time or mention, right? Unless.....😳

Tried reading the Book of Mormon again. It was in my hotel room. I couldn’t get past the 43rd “and so it came to past” in the first chapter. This manure is so absurd I’m utterly shocked they’ve still warped people to think it’s true.

@HelamansArmyYT @latterdaylaura Confirmation bias is a real thing.

@latterdaylaura Every time I read from the watch Christian Church fathers my testimony of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is strengthened.

Guaranteed I'd be thinking "Wow, the church is so true," while reading this

@_CoryBowen @MrRonBlackwell You’re showing that you don’t actually know what Trinitarianism is.

@MrRonBlackwell Yup! Great verse! There is quite a bit of evidence to support the idea that the Father and Son are distinct persons.

Me: Will LDS be condemned if our conception of Jesus is incorrect? Protestants (some): Yes Me: How can 3 persons share 1 essence? Them: It's a mystery Me: Our ignorance concerning God's divine essence is covered by grace? But grace doesn't cover misconceptions of the godhood?

Look, this is really stupid and Protestants don’t have a leg to stand on. This comes down to the rejection of the authority of the Church of Christ to teach, govern, and sanctify. Every Protestant sect rejects this authority and every Protestant sets themselves up as the supreme authority. The LDS church falsely holds and professes that the Church of Christ died. It denies the assurances of prophecy and Christ that his kingdom would last forever. This is the heart of the issue. Christ said to his apostles, “he who hears you hears me and he who rejects you rejects me.” Both Protestants and Mormons reject Christ’s Church, established on the foundation of the Apostles, each in their own way. But, both have the same problem - the rejection of Church with authority to teach and bind men to doctrine. Protestants have at least preserved some doctrinal unity with Christ’s Church. The LDS church has not. Neither Protestantism nor Mormonism can save as Protestantism or Mormonism. Individuals can be saved, despite error or ignorance in belief, so long as they are open and responsive to the movement of the Holy Spirit. Even then salvation still comes from and through Christ’s body sojourning on earth, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

@KatKanada_TM @counseloftrent The Church is the body of Christ. Christ is our salvation = The church is our salvation. The one holy Catholic and apostolic Church to be specific.

@counseloftrent The church saves the church??? Sounds like heresy to me.

Salvation is from the Catholic Church.

@TruthHolder2023 @LukeFHan There is no evidence for a great apostasy, biblical or historical.

"Ever learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth." Catholics claim that when Christ said that the "gates of hell shall not prevail against it" means that the church Peter established would never fail, and an apostasy would mean Christ lied. Of course, they claim that there has been an unbroken line of authority from Peter to the current pope. So, I can understand why they are against the idea that there was an apostasy. If there was (which I believe there was), then the Catholic Church doesn't have a leg to stand on. Of course, through modern revelation which expounds upon what Christ said to Peter, we know that the "gates of hell" will never prevail against REVELATION from God. I counted 28 verses from the Bible that speak about the Great Apostasy. I believe there was an apostasy, which necessitated the need for a restoration. That restoration began with the restoration of the Aaronic Priesthood, followed by the restoration of the Melchizedek Priesthood, and continues this day within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

He did months of prep, a debate, and a post debate convo and he STILL does not know what the Great Apostasy even is

@Sola_GPT Yeah, could we put the LDS and the JWs in the corner already? I am tired of mormons filling my feed.

Thank goodness the JW are here now. Maybe this will take some heat off LDS for awhile 🤣

@jaredadairbell Retarded. The devil quoted scripture. Plagiarized and demonic at the same time.

The Meme Wars have begun

@Manhattva Then what was the point of the restoration? And why were the sects and their professors an abomination?

But you say I’m in a cult. Weird.