Joseph of Nova Caesarea

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea

@CaesariteJoseph

☦︎☦︎☦︎ Orthodox Catholic Poet & Musician. Sworn to Amia. St. Joseph the Hymnographer, pray for me.

ROCOR Nova Caesarea Joined Eylül 2024

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·7 Mar

Almighty God the Father, let thy will be done in us and all the world! Lord Jesus Christ, Son and Logos of the Living God, have mercy on us! O All Good and Life Creating Spirit, illumine us and guide all souls unto truth! Lord have mercy! Lord have mercy! Lord have mercy!

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·2h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista Was not* 💀

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·2h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista As do I. Forgive me if I offended you at all or was too harsh. It wot my intention, I do it only for my love of Christ and my genuine belief in His Church. I apologize. May God bless you!

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Beck Evangelista ☦️@beckevangelista·1d

Are you for real? Lord have mercy☦️

Kirk McKee@kirkmckee13

@beckevangelista @TribeRuffner Nope. Bishops were concurrent with Apostles, operated under them. No apostles means that office and authority was lost. Where are your apostles?

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·2h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista He is telling Timothy to point these things out to the faithful to keep them from these erroneous groups. And later he says, "command and teach these things" Is commanding representative of an authority or still no?

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Nedward Marbletoe@NMarbletoe·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista If the chapter is about groups outside the church, then it doesn't support authority of the church. Infallibility of the Pope is held as doctrine, yes? So that's an error. The Church is valuable and a blessed part of God's design. We are asked to test. This may fix errors.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·2h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista You are 2000 years separated from the Incarnation. You knew what I meant. Well, these scriptures do refer to apostolic succession and transmitting an oral deposit that written scripture lacks. It isn't concerning that no one understood how you did until like the past century?

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Nedward Marbletoe@NMarbletoe·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista No separation, friend! Christ is here with us as we debate! I am simply looking for succession of authority in scripture. I don't see it. Some of what you posted contradicts that idea. Peace, brother! Love you

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista We are not papists. We are Orthodox Christians.

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Nedward Marbletoe@NMarbletoe·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista Leading churches ok. One leader proclaiming truth for all believers, infallible, succeeded by another such chief for all time? Don't see it.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista We certainly would ahree that various groups depart from truth and teach things taught by demons. Arianism, Nestorianism, Papism, Islam, Protestantism, Mormonism, etc. to name a few.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista The forbidding to marry is talking about other groups outside the Church such as many gnostic groups, who did exactly that. Nor do Orthodox Christians believe any individual bishop is infallible, so again this is just not really responding to our position

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista You're a fallible singular person 2000 years separated from Christ. Why are you so certain your interpretation is correct?

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Nedward Marbletoe@NMarbletoe·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista i am non-denom i don't need to refute. I simply do not see succession of authority in those. I await scriptural proof.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista Oh Titus 1:9 too. And look man, I understand you're gonna interpret it differently, but it is in scripture was really my only point. Not trying to convince you, the Holy Spirit must do so. Believe as you wish.

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Nedward Marbletoe@NMarbletoe·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista 2 Tim 2:2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also. Lineages of teaching, but not succession of authority.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista Do you think the Elders just don't lead their churches my guy?

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Nedward Marbletoe@NMarbletoe·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista Titus 1:5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: Appointing elders, no succession of authority

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista “And what you have heard from me among many witnesses commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.” 2 Timothy 2:2 St. Paul is telling Timothy to pass on what he heard (oral!) from him while in Ephesus (1 Tim 1:3) where he taught three years (Acts 20:31l

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@NMarbletoe @kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista orthodoxwiki.org/Apostolic_succ… This has verses although it's not completely thorough. Acts 1 is the obvious case. 2 Timothy 2:2 is my favorite. Titus 1:5 too. These are both letters to Bishops so it makes sense. 1 Timothy 4:14 shows that this gift in Timothy was a sacramental thing.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista The authority of binding and loosing, remitting and retaining, celebrating the sacraments, guarding the true faith etc. certainly remains in their successors. They don't receive direct revelation from Christ, write scripture, nor define the deposit of faith.

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Kirk McKee@kirkmckee13·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @beckevangelista Exactly, the authority was lost. Thanks for agreeing.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·3h

@kirkmckee13 @beckevangelista And so now you're going beyond what the text says to make an explanation that it does not lean too. Their is nowhere in scripture that says this concilliar pattern is only for the 12 apostles. If they have a unique charism for it, it is irrational that the Elders would be there.

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Kirk McKee@kirkmckee13·3h

@CaesariteJoseph @beckevangelista Do you not think the apostles can take counsel from the elders? If a king invites his advisors to advise him, do they then have his authority?

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·4h

@m966021 @AngloVarangian Jeez why didn't I think of that. Very intelligently put.

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Nick M@m966021·4h

@CaesariteJoseph @AngloVarangian Yeah that's nonsense.

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Paisios@AngloVarangian·9h

Because it belonged to Constantinople prior to 1204

Jack Posobiec@JackPosobiec

The image on the Shroud of Turin is nearly identical to Byzantine icons of Christ from hundreds of years ago

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Alex Sorin, JD@Alex_Ortodoxie·5h

@cezargr1 @thaddeusthought Does anywhere in the Bible show anyone praying directly to the Holy Spirit? Not everything is explicit in the Bible. The letters are meant to address problems. If there’s no problem, then no one is going to write about it.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·4h

@m966021 @AngloVarangian That has not been proven. The carbon dating could have been on a medieval restoration. And of course we still can't recreate it... So at very least it's inconclusive.

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Nick M@m966021·7h

@AngloVarangian Literally impossible since the Shroud of Turin is a medieval invention.

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Joseph of Nova Caesarea@CaesariteJoseph·4h

@Ladyluck007 @JRuebl47185 @megievalist x.com/i/status/20405…

Ben Michael@RealBenLuigi

LOL you pagan larpers are so pathetic. The Holy Roman Empire was just as brutal to Jews as the pagan one was, in fact it was Julian the apostate, a PAGAN emperor, who tried to help the Jews rebuild the temple. The Jews did everything in their power to take down the Holy Empire including funding Persian invaders in the 7th century. Here is an educational video on your dumbass religion for you intellectual donkeys:

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