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@dypethic @sola_chad But here is the rub: your God is so above us and infinitely powerful. So it's impossible to even harm him. So, it's like saying the wife's teasing is abuse, and it's amazing that the husband still gives grace even though he wants to beat her to death.

@Pybro5 @sola_chad This quote is a mischaracterization. That is like a wife who berates and abuses her husband yet in spite of all this grace is given.

@dypethic @sola_chad Yes, but how can someone be a good father if they threaten to beat their kids if they don't obey? How can it be a good father if they say, "Everything good from your life is becuse of me."

@Pybro5 @sola_chad Think you're misunderstood this. Although the implications of owing is nothing. However God provides blessings and gifts being referred to as a good father. Have you explored what grace is?

@dypethic @creation247 Yes, but none of them answered it. All of it just mysterious ways.

@Pybro5 @creation247 Have you read books like Genesis, Ephesians, John and Relevation to answer your ontological questions? Short answers related to love, choice, will, relationship, glory, transformation etc.

Why can't atheists understand?

@dypethic @FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz Then why did he allow him to win? God could have just said no, put his foot down, and punished Jep for even offering a human to be sacrificed. Jeb still used his free will and was punished for the notation of a human sacrifice.

@Pybro5 @FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz No explicit greenlight was given in the text. No brakes is a better analogy. He gave Jep free will and they decided to contra voluntatem Dei. Being flawed answers the question when balanced with Christ's foershadowing.

@dypethic @creation247 I'm asking why people on earth make it in the first place? Why not just skip this step and just make everyone in heaven if God wants us all to be there?

@Pybro5 @creation247 I gave you references to your Q to explore more. Don't you mean keep people in heaven or are you alluding to a form of universalism? The extended answer is found in the writings of those like C.S. Lewis with the Great Divorce, providing a more contextualized response.

@dypethic @FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz But why did God give the green light? If he didn't approve of human sarfice why did he shrug and say ok? Saying we are flawed doesn't answer the question.

@Pybro5 @FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz You should do a comparative study of protagonists in the bible and the answer should be clearer David became king and engaged in adultery and murder. Noah survived a flood and then became drunk Peter lied by denying Jesus It reflects the flaws and emphasise on dependence on God

@dypethic @creation247 Not, much but you still didn't answer my question. Why doesn't he just take us to heaven in the first place if he doesn't want us to sin?

@Pybro5 @creation247 You mentioned the reason in a different chat when engaging in the discussion of free will and sin. How much have you learnt about angelology through a Christian lens?

@creation247 So? You are talking about him And? The Flynn effect and so? What does wealth have to do with anything? What does his dislike of Christianity have to do with anything? Why is he not getting women important? What does him doing something you don't like have to do with anything

Facts about Nietzsche > No kids > No legacy > Atheist > 120 IQ (at best) > Died poor > Hated Christianity > Rejected by women > Encouraged Pride Why do people like this guy?

@FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz Why does God even need to do that? Why can't he just teach them the right way then? Even if they didn't listen, they would have written it down and thus show modern values in an ancient text.

@Pybro5 @TheSkepticWiz A good example of God using flawed people is Samson. He was proud, arrogant, dishonest and a womaniser however God used his strength and leadership and after Samson’s greatest fall, was used to defeat an evil people. God desires people who seek His will (despite their mess).

@FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz So, why couldn't God just put his foot down and say no to the sacrifice?

@Pybro5 @TheSkepticWiz The Ammonites were an evil people who were oppressing Israel. God uses broken, flawed people such as Jeb (an excellent warrior to stop the evil Ammonite) in their time. Just like many other judges, God used them for good even with their sins and mistakes .

@dypethic @FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz Then why did God let Jeb win in the first place know full well he was going to get a human sacrifice? God could have just let Jeb lose and teach him that he would not allow any human sacrifice.

@Pybro5 @FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz Doesn’t necessarily imply approval of the vow or of what Jephthah later did. Key distinction is between God granting military victory and God endorsing every action or vow made by the human leader (including deeply flawed characters like Jep).

@dypethic @creation247 So why couldn't he just make us in heaven in the first place?

@Pybro5 @creation247 This incorrect quotation can't be sourced outside of this tweet, it appears. Inferences are flawed. Plus, you're omitting the context that perfection will occur at the conclusion of moral life for those who are in Christ, not in their current existence.

@FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz But the fact that God gave the Ammonites into Jeb's hands kinda disproves that.

@Pybro5 @TheSkepticWiz Jep was going against God’s will here (just like many people in judges) and clearly shouldn't have kept such a foolish oath (or made it in the first place) and offered his best animal instead if he felt lead.

@FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz Oh sorry I miss tpyed, Judges

@Pybro5 @TheSkepticWiz Can't find those verses and read Jude and see no verses that say child sacrifice is endorsed.

@FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz I get you, but I think anti-abortion causes harms women's health. In the sense that it causes something called the Chilling Effect, where there is something in a woman's uterus that is causing issues but you would not call a featus, but it's a legal grey area.

@Pybro5 @TheSkepticWiz Hi Pybro! I don’t think I have ever mentioned this Scripture but am happy to put my hat in the ring. Being open, I am pro-life and think everyone is made in God-image. We shouldn’t kill innocent human beings and this is an important topic to me as I could have been aborted.

@FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz But in Jude 11:31-37 can be interpreted that God is ok with child sacrifice.

@Pybro5 @TheSkepticWiz Ezekiel 16:20-21 and 23:37-39 does show God’s hatred for burning children alive (which I think we can all agree is evil) and 18:4 demonstrates God’s authority over life. Context: this was to do with the evil child burning at the time and Israel’s rebellion against God.

@FaithPhoenix123 @TheSkepticWiz I don't recall anything in the Bible on pedophilia. But the Bible does condone chattel slavery. Leviticus 25:44 - 46 condones it.

@Pybro5 @TheSkepticWiz I think Ezekiel was interested in tackling child-sacrifice. I believe God has transformed society over time, such as getting rid of death games, widespread pederasty, chattle slavery... We should stop all forms of sacrificing children and support mothers to care for their kids