Has It Happened Yet?
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Has It Happened Yet?
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In coming days, we will see the greatest manifestations of the Savior's power that the world has ever seen. - Russell Nelson, 10/2/22 Has it happened yet?
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@mrmdotorg @BebopJosh @ThoughtfulSaint I recently read Turner's chapter on the gold plates. I recall someone said Smith found the location of the plates using a stone. I don't have the book with me at the moment.
There were a lot of "what?" moments in that chapter for me.
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See the section:
Did Joseph Smith use the second stone (from the Chase property) to find the Gold Plates?
mrm.org/sally-chase#:~…
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FAIR: "probably"
@ThoughtfulSaint: "legend[ary] development, not reliable reporting."
Link in thread.

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@RandomLDS Sure. Temple, sealings, priesthood. Would those need to be included?
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@rustylied Do you mind providing context to that question?
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The Book of Mormon contains the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
It was translated by the gift and power of God.
Even though Joseph Smith didn't have much formal education he dictated the entire 500-plus page complex narrative in a stunningly short window of about 65 to 75 working days between April and June of 1829.
He didn't use any notes or a library; he just dictated straight to scribes like Oliver Cowdery. He didn’t ask for the last word or sentence to be read back to him.
No other author has ever replicated this feat, making Joseph Smith either a literary savant or a prophet.
There are the 11 official witnesses (plus several unofficial ones like Emma Smith and Mary Whitmer) who stood by their testimonies for the rest of their lives, even when some of them had major falling-outs with Joseph later on.
Eight of those witnesses testified they didn't just "see" the plates in a vision, but actually handled and "hefted" them, describing their weight (about 40–60 lbs) and the metallic sound the pages made.
From a literary standpoint, scholars have pointed out complex ancient Hebrew poetic structures like chiasmus (inverted parallelism) and specific place names like Nahom in the Arabian Peninsula that actually match up with archaeological finds today.
When you place the rapid translation, the consistent witness accounts, and the unexpected alignments with ancient geography side by side, the idea that Joseph Smith simply fabricated the whole thing becomes far harder to sustain.
There’s a reason.
Joseph Smith said, “I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.”
All those facts are interesting enough, but they are not what helps people know the truthfulness of it.
You can find out for yourself by simply asking God if it’s true with the intent of following His answer.

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@DeBoktonBook @PetGorilla Renee, this was removed in 1927.
Please Google the oath of vengeance.
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@PetGorilla This is not what happens in the temple and never was. Your facts are off.
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@rustylied The “fulness of the gospel” is defined as the doctrine of Christ. This includes: Faith in Jesus Christ, Repentance, Baptism, Gift of the Holy Ghost, Enduring to the end.
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@rustylied @RandomLDS Pretty much: Infant Baptism is an abomination and if God commands it’s okay to murder someone like Laban.
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@rustylied @LukeFHan That is great! Happy to hear there are many people all over the world living the gospel.
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The Mormon Church is ridiculous. In the past 48 hours
- I sat with two 19 year olds as they promised a young man that the spirit would tell him if the book of Mormon is true after telling him he lived before he came to earth
- went to a stake conference where a new stake presidency was called by people who had never met them before
- listened to teenagers teach the congregation (including a seventy) gospel truths
And these events are business as usual in the Church.
This is such an audacious way to run a Church that it makes one wonder if perhaps only God could conduct an organization this way.
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@jaromjordan Nelson is dead. Mormon is acceptable again.
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@Salt_n_Smoke If interested you can watch the endowment on YouTube. You'll learn a lot.
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So Satan knew that they would fall.
Satan wouldn’t do that. He would stop them from eating the fruit…. Then no one gets a body. Satan would win.
That’s the craftiest creature.
That is why Jesus is veiled in the OT.. God didn’t want Satan to know the plan.. (WHICH IS WHY THE BOM MAKES NO SENSE) - Satan would have known God in the flesh is coming to defeat him, his name will be Jesus Christ, He will perform miracles, the date, his mothers name is Mary, the baptism, dove, the entire plan of the atonement about how Satan gets defeated
It makes no sense at all. Satan would have known every detail…. But no, when Jesus comes and the temptation happens Satan says “If” you are the son of God. Like he’s not sure.. Satan would’ve known every single detail.
That is why the BoM makes absolutely NO sense and why Jesus is veiled in the OT. he wouldn’t go blast every detail 600 years to everybody and want people doing that.
“But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”
1 Corinthians 2:7-8 ESV
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LDS friends. - Satan knows of Gods plan. Right? He was there in the premortal and knows the plan. He knows we will come to earth to get a body, and the atonement.
So in Eden, why is he the one actively pushing for Gods plan to happen? Satan is the one convincing Eve to eat, knowingly putting Gods plan in full motion.
Why?
Seems he’d be trying to stop Eve from eating the fruit. Then no one would get bodies, no Jesus coming to earth, no atonement. Satan wins.
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@Buttars9129 @RigdonNancy3 Then he allowed polygamy to happen. Because there is no indication he commanded it in the OT.
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@rustylied @RigdonNancy3 Of course. He gave us agency. It’s their choice. We all do it every day. If he didn’t we would have been wiped out already.
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Jospeh Smith broke (at least) three commandments (see Exodus 20:10)
1.) coveted his neighbors wife
2.) committed adultery
3.) coveted his neighbors ass 😂
So the mob was justified because the penalty was death.
Turn LDS arguments around at them and they sound crazy, huh?
Mene, Mene, Tekel, Peres@Stratman_Lynn
@BlackBlessedLDS Actually, Laban broke three commandments of the Law of Moses. 1-bore false witness, 2-theft, and 3-tried to kill them. So Nephi was justified because the penalty was death anyway. And Nephi refused until compelled by the Spirit.
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@KirtonMcBonky Congrats on 5 years cancer free. I can't imagine what you both went through.
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@Joeray @RigdonNancy3 Oh shiz I blocked the OP. Goodness me.
Did you post the stats you've read?
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@rustylied @RigdonNancy3 I do too. I’m referencing stats I’ve read and not my personal experience.
The original question put to me was about two scenarios that are bad either way.
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“Nearly guaranteed”. WTF. People holding onto these crazy thoughts is why we can’t progress as humanity.
Joseph Ray@Joeray
@RigdonNancy3 @joyinbecomingp1 Molestation is nearly guaranteed with same sex couples. Both systems are bad but you have better odds in the foster system to not be molested.
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@Buttars9129 @RigdonNancy3 Does God allow people to sin?
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@rustylied @RigdonNancy3 Solomon, David? I could go on. If he allows it then would that be the same as he commanded it. If not then your logic would have to be they sinned and where in adultery. I would argue god through out time as commanded for his purposes and JS was no different
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@Joeray @RigdonNancy3 Oh my bad. The OP did.
But still.
I know same sex couples who have adopted.
Lovely people.
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