Jennifer Jasper

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Jennifer Jasper

Jennifer Jasper

@jen17448

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Jeremy Kidd
Jeremy Kidd@jeremylynnkidd·
@elias_wren @wrightleft99 @barlowna @TeeplesCY Your "you must admit" statement assumes more than it proves. What if we have enough humility to say we have no idea what eternal life with God means, or what His fullness entails? At that point, we have no idea whether what you allege we believe is true.
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Clint Teeples
Clint Teeples@TeeplesCY·
An evangelical pastor shares how a single encounter with a Latter-day Saint missionary led him to question everything he had been taught about them: "I had been raised with a clear message: Mormons were trapped in a cult, a counterfeit of Christianity that was best left alone. The directive was clear—if you must engage, study up to pull them out. This mindset shaped my early approach. Armed with evangelical countercult literature, I felt prepared to confront and correct. But my first real encounter with a Mormon missionary left me more confused than confident. “But your church teaches that you’ll become the god of your own planet one day,” I insisted, my finger jabbing the air between us. The missionary’s eyebrows raised. He paused, carefully considering his next words. “You know,” he began, his voice calm and measured, “it’s not exactly like that. We believe we can become like God, yes. But it’s more about experiencing the fullness of what Heavenly Father wants for his children.” He tilted his head, looking at me curiously. “Don’t you believe God wants us to become more like him?” I opened my mouth to argue, then closed it again. The words stuck in my throat as I realized that yes, I did believe something like that. It frustrated me how easily the missionary swatted away everything I thought was true about his beliefs. Was he lying, or was I lied to? Was the truth somewhere in the middle? This interaction shook my certainty and sparked a realization: Perhaps my understanding of Mormonism was built on the sands of “heresy hearsay,” the peculiar mix of secondhand information and accusations of doctrinal deviation that often characterizes an outsider’s perspective of a group not their own." Source: Beshears, Kyle. 40 Questions About Mormonism (p. 11).
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Jennifer Jasper
Jennifer Jasper@jen17448·
@bossjr450 @ThoughtfulSaint The concept of an "endowment" as a spiritual, heavenly gift is present in the Bible, notably where believers are "endued" or clothed with power from on high (Luke 24:49) and through the spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 12:7-11). It refers to receiving spiritual power etc
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Thoughtful-Faith
Thoughtful-Faith@ThoughtfulSaint·
I baptized Veronica and her kids 20 years ago in Argentina. She was inactive for a long time then sent me this message today. We found her family on a whim at the end of a long dirt road in the middle of nowhere Argentina. God is in relentlessness pursuit of you.
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Jennifer Jasper
Jennifer Jasper@jen17448·
@rustylied I’m always happy for anyone living the gospel of Jesus Christ. Doesn’t matter which religion.
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Luke Hanson
Luke Hanson@LukeFHan·
The Mormon Church is ridiculous. In the past 48 hours - I sat with two 19 year olds as they promised a young man that the spirit would tell him if the book of Mormon is true after telling him he lived before he came to earth - went to a stake conference where a new stake presidency was called by people who had never met them before - listened to teenagers teach the congregation (including a seventy) gospel truths And these events are business as usual in the Church. This is such an audacious way to run a Church that it makes one wonder if perhaps only God could conduct an organization this way.
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Scipio's Ghost
Scipio's Ghost@ScipiosGhost·
@LukeFHan Telling people that their feelings will confirm to them if a book is the creation of literate ancient American Indians whose existence completely disappeared without a trace and that the last piece of physical evidence was taken to heaven by an angel is in fact... ridiculous.
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Jennifer Jasper
Jennifer Jasper@jen17448·
@ChristLifeInc1 @TeeplesCY It’s been shown that there is more suicide there because of the climate, i.e. long winters, high altitude etc. not because of any religion.
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ChristLife, Inc.
ChristLife, Inc.@ChristLifeInc1·
Deeply moral???? You mean DEEPLY DISTURBED?
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Anti-Commie Gamer
Anti-Commie Gamer@SrcasticGamer·
@TeeplesCY Same argument: Everyone is wrong, we are the only ones who have absolute truth through one private revelation. This is literally what CULTS DO! Go study that!
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Clint Teeples
Clint Teeples@TeeplesCY·
They believe God has a body. They believe God looks human. They believe God lives in a real place and can be seen. They believe humans are made to look like God, the way children look like their parents. They believe God has a face, hands, feet, and a voice. They believe God speaks out loud and shows emotion. They believe God rules alongside other divine beings. They believe Jesus and God are two separate beings. They believe the Holy Spirit is also a distinct being, not the same person as God or Jesus. They believe Jesus has seen God and now stands beside Him in heaven. Who is “they”? They are the Christians of the New Testament period, according to scholars of the Bible and early Christianity, including Francesca Stavrakopoulou. This reflects mainstream scholarship on early Christian belief, before later church councils and creeds reshaped Christian theology.
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CrossCreekChristy🪔
CrossCreekChristy🪔@christyp298·
@MattTestifies Are you listening to The Ancient Tradition podcast? If not I highly recommend it. I believe just as you. Your words are poetic.
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Matt
Matt@MattTestifies·
Alright. Let’s slow this down and actually say it cleanly, because the gotcha stuff on here depends on people not understanding theology. We believe God is literally our Father. Not metaphorically. Not poetically. Literally. Before mortality, we existed as spirit children of God. Every one of us. That includes prophets, atheists, angels, rebels, the quiet, the loud, the faithful, and the fallen. All of us. Scripture is direct about this. Hebrews teaches that God is the Father of spirits. Acts teaches that we are His offspring. Romans teaches we are children of God and joint heirs with Christ. Job shows the sons of God present before the world was formed. None of that language is symbolic. It is relational. That means something important, and this is where people get uncomfortable. If God is the Father of spirits, then no created being competes with Him. Not angels. Not men. Not Satan. There is no cosmic rivalry between equals. There is only one God, eternal, uncreated, sovereign. Everyone else exists because He allowed it. So when Latter day Saints say Jesus and Satan were brothers, we are not elevating Satan. We are explaining family order. Jesus Christ is the Firstborn of the Father in the spirit. The Only Begotten in the flesh. Divine by nature, role, authority, and perfect obedience. He stands apart from all creation. He is God. He is the Son. He is the Redeemer. Satan is a created spirit. A son who rebelled. No divinity. No authority. No creative power. No glory. Just agency misused. Calling them brothers does not make them equals any more than Cain and Abel being brothers made Cain righteous. Family does not imply sameness. It implies origin. And here’s the part people miss. If Jesus being our brother somehow diminishes Him, then so does the New Testament. Because it openly calls Him our brother. It says He is not ashamed to call us brethren. It says He took upon Him our nature. It says He descended below all things so He could lift us. Christianity without embodiment, without family, without real relational theology becomes abstract fast. God becomes distant. Christ becomes untouchable. Salvation becomes legal instead of relational. Restored doctrine fixes that. God is a Father. Not a force. Christ is a Brother and a Savior. Not a myth. We are sons and daughters. Not accidents. Salvation is return. Not escape. So no, we do not worship Satan. No, we do not place him next to Christ. No, we do not confuse the hierarchy. We understand it. There is God the Father. There is Jesus Christ, His Beloved Son. There are His children. And there is a rebel who chose separation. That framework does not weaken Christ. It magnifies Him. Because He did not save strangers. He saved family. And that is why we call each other brothers and sisters. Not as a slogan. As a statement of eternal reality. Uncomfortable? Maybe. Biblical? Yes. Coherent? Completely. Unapologetic? Always. 😃
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Jennifer Jasper
Jennifer Jasper@jen17448·
@MacgawdS @TeeplesCY So believing Christ is the eternal God, that He died for our sins and is the only way to salvation, as we LDS believe, isn’t Christian?
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AstroboT
AstroboT@MacgawdS·
@TeeplesCY It’s not an argument. It’s a statement of fact. They do not believe in the triune nature of God, and therefore not Christian. Just like Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists aren’t Christian.
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Clint Teeples
Clint Teeples@TeeplesCY·
The “Mormons aren’t Christians” movement is nothing more than a small but loud corner of American evangelicalism. That argument has now lost. Not faded. Not weakened. Lost. It no longer persuades the public, and it no longer commands moral authority. What remains is noise, produced for self-confirmation rather than persuasion, repeating claims the rest of the country has already moved past. The reason is simple. Americans know what Christians look like. And they know Latter-day Saints. They know Latter-day Saints as people who worship Jesus Christ openly and constantly. Who pray in His name. Who center weekly worship on His atoning sacrifice. Who teach their children to follow Him. Who organize their entire religious life around His resurrection. For almost everyone who is asked, that settles the question. Repeated surveys confirm it. A clear majority of Americans regard Latter-day Saints as Christian, including many who disagree with their theology or would never join the Church. They still recognize Christian faith when they see it. The real fight is not over Jesus Christ. Latter-day Saints affirm His divinity, His Atonement, and His literal resurrection without hesitation. That is not where the argument lives. The disagreement turns on something else. When evangelicals say Latter-day Saints aren’t Christian, they are often defending a philosophical definition of God shaped by Greek thought. When Latter-day Saints say they are Christian, they are pointing to something simpler and older: worship of Jesus Christ as the resurrected Savior. You can disagree with that claim. But you cannot honestly say it places Latter-day Saints outside the Christian story altogether. Teachings evangelicals portray as wildly unchristian, including belief in an embodied Father or distinct divine persons, were taught and believed by many early Christians. Scholars have shown these ideas were common in the first centuries, before later church authorities narrowed acceptable belief through frameworks shaped heavily by Greek philosophy. They are not historical oddities. They are part of Christianity’s early record. That is why the heresy label now rings hollow. It is not grounded in how Christianity began, but in how certain groups later decided its boundaries should be enforced. And enforcement is exactly how it feels. The most telling feature of today’s “Mormons aren’t Christian” rhetoric is its irrelevance. It persists in online echo chambers and almost nowhere else. Outside those circles, the verdict is already in. Latter-day Saints are widely recognized as Christians. Their faith is visible, durable, and centered on Jesus Christ. The attempt to deny that reality no longer persuades anyone who is not already committed to denying it. America has spoken. Ancient history is on its side. And momentum points the same way. Latter-day Saints are Christian.
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Mathias ✟
Mathias ✟@Matheus39392774·
@TeeplesCY If you deny the divinity of Christ and believe that God was created, you are closer to being a Muslim than a Christian.
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Jennifer Jasper
Jennifer Jasper@jen17448·
@Jadan_gelo @TeeplesCY Actually we do worship the Jesus from the Bible and we believe He is God. We don’t believe Satan and Jesus are brothers.
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Jaden D'Angelo
Jaden D'Angelo@Jadan_gelo·
@TeeplesCY The problem is that the Jesus that you worship is not the Jesus from the Bible. Your Jesus is the brother of Satan. My Jesus is God Himself.
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Jennifer Jasper
Jennifer Jasper@jen17448·
@84lbs84days @TeeplesCY LDS (Mormon) believe Jesus is God, came to earth, atoned and died for our sins, and was resurrected. We look to Him only for our salvation.
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Johnathan
Johnathan@84lbs84days·
@TeeplesCY Bullshit. Christians believe God came to Earth as Jesus and then went back up to heaven. Mormons believe God, Jesus and the holy Ghost are three separate beings. Believing in "Jesus" doesn't make them Christian. If you believe in science it doesn't make you a scientist.
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Wholesome Side of 𝕏
Wholesome Side of 𝕏@itsme_urstruly·
This is how she got asked to the school dance. 😂 When the dad is laughing you know you did it right. ❤️
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Lisa
Lisa@teaminney·
@Alladdin1983 Read the Bible instead, mormonism is a false religion.
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Alladdin
Alladdin@Alladdin1983·
I was getting gas tonight when two young women approached me, inviting me to their church. I immediately asked their opinion on Charlie Kirk, and they were speechless. Why? Because it’s Denver, Colorado. Be brave and bold. Those women were Mormons. I took their Bible and, out of respect, will read it.
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Allison
Allison@MamasitawWard·
@Alladdin1983 I don’t get it. Why were they speechless about Charlie? I am LDS and think the world of him!
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Mr Chron
Mr Chron@chron33·
@ExMosPostingLs He’s right tho. If prophets and apostles aren’t going to warn members about impending rises of fascism then what is the point of having these general conferences??
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Joey Ziemann
Joey Ziemann@JoeyZiemann·
@RykerJackson97 I think we'd be better off just saying we aren't Christians in the typical sense. We do believe in Christ and follow him but that label of "Christians" seems to be for everybody else besides us. So let them have it. Idk we can be "Christ-followers" instead of "Christians" maybe.
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Ryker
Ryker@RykerJackson97·
I’m not going to insist on being called a Christian. Do I consider myself to be a Christian? Yes. Absolutely and unequivocally yes. But, I understand that my rejection of formal Trinitarian dogma is a nonstarter for many. That’s ok. Everyone has a right to make such determinations. This post (which will probably end up being quite long) is not a plea to be recognized as Christian, but rather an explanation of what I as a Latter-day Saint do believe about Jesus Christ. Jesus is Jehovah. He is the God of the Old Testament and the Redeemer of the New. It was He who covenanted with Abraham, and He is indeed the very God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He spoke to Moses through the burning bush and gave him the Ten Commandments. He led the children of Israel through the Red Sea on dry ground. He is the creator of the heavens and the earth and all things that in them are. He descended to earth in the meridian of time, was born of the Virgin Mary in a manger, and at the age of thirty began His public ministry. He called apostles, ordained them to the priesthood, and taught the truths of eternity to all who would listen. He established His church, healed the sick, raised the dead, restored sight to the blind, instituted the sacrament of the Lord’s supper and, when the time had come, endured the unbearable weight and agony of all our sins, pains, and weaknesses in the Garden of Gethsemane, a burden so heavy that even He, God, the greatest of all, trembled because of pain and bled from every pore. He was betrayed with a kiss, mocked, and put through a sham trial at the behest of a mob. He was denied, and made to endure it alone. He was beaten, whipped, and scorned, made to carry a cross to calvary’s hill. Large nails were driven into His hands, wrists, and feet, and a crown of thorns was placed on His head. He suffered on the cross, pleading to His Father to forgive even those who were in the very act of torturing and killing Him. Hours later, He gave up the ghost, declaring “It is finished”. He descended to the spirit world, preaching to the prisoners there while His body lay in a tomb. On the third day He rose from the grave, being the first fruits of them that slept and assuring us all of a glorious resurrection and a knowledge that death will not lay claim on our physical bodies forever. He showed Himself to his disciples, ensuring they knew that He was not a spirit, but rather that He had been resurrected with a perfected, glorified body of flesh and bone. He gave commands to His disciples before He ascended to heaven, exhorting them to preach the gospel to every creature, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. He initiated the restoration of His church through Joseph Smith, Jr., appearing first to the boy prophet in 1820, and later revealing The Book of Mormon, a sacred record of scripture that, with the Bible, testifies plainly that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. In the time since, He has led and guided this The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Jesus is an high priest of good things to come, the Great King Immanuel who sits on the right hand of His Father, crowned forever with eternal glory and all power, might, and dominion, having finished His preparations unto the children of men and offering them redemption through the shedding of His own blood. He is the light and the life of the world, and salvation comes in and through His atoning blood and in no other way. He is my prophet, my priest, my king and my God. That is who Jesus of Nazareth is to me.
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texasboy
texasboy@supertexasfan·
@hankrsmith Mixing sacred prophetic words with partisan politics is a betrayal of what makes faith meaningful. This crosses a line—turning inspiration into division. Just like that, I’m done reading your posts. You just lost a truly faithful follower
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Hank Smith
Hank Smith@hankrsmith·
All your losses will be made up to you in the resurrection, provided you continue faithful. By the vision of the Almighty I have seen it. - Joseph Smith
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