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CyberVan@starchy73ยท
It's wild to imagine how much foresight and execution went into reaching the point where SpaceX can realistically acquire Tesla, giving Elon total control over the most consequential company in human history.
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CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@Truthful_ast I've watched every launch and expect them to be launching real payload and reliably catching the booster within six months. A rapidly reusable starship could be ready in a similar timeframe. Or it could take years longer...
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Truthful๐Ÿ›ฐ๏ธ@Truthful_astยท
Prepare for Starship cope to move goal posts like this: Hasn't orbited โ†’ hasn't deployed real payloads โ†’ hasn't rendezvoused โ†’ hasn't refueled โ†’ hasn't gone to the Moon โ†’ hasn't done crewed flight โ†’ hasn't landed on Mars โ†’ hasn't built a city on Mars โ†’ "This is taking too long, Starship was a waste of money"
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CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@MobofJoggers Especially given the vast difference in energy available per planet, star and galaxy. In the context of how advanced a civilisation is and how far it has expanded, the thresholds would be; Intercontinental < interplanetary < interstellar < intergalactic < interdimensional.
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Lincoln@MobofJoggersยท
I can't be the only one who thinks measuring harnessed energy on the Kardashev scale to be silly. I, II, and III? It seems like we're need something with a lot more granularity.
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CyberVan@starchy73ยท
My biggest hesitation with SpaceX, is due to Elon's long list of delays. From Starship & FSD, to what seems easy by comparison. Cybertruck, Semi, 4680s, solar etc. SpaceX has a bright future, sure, but it may take longer than promised... We're still a long way from the moon.
Aaron Burnett@aaronburnett

I find binary spacex takes unhelpful and uninteresting. if you're actually trying to understand where spacex value could ultimately land in the coming years, you should run simulations anchored on the physics constraints of their stated infrastructure plans. SpaceX engineers at the edge of physics, so forecasting those constraints are actually instructive. This isn't a fintech or consumer play where market dynamics swing wildly from week to week and are truly unpredictable. This is hard science and engineering, where truth (in the form of physics) and a little optimism (eg - we won't blow ourselves up in 5 years) can give you a decent view into the future. in this video, I gave a sneak peak at the assumptions page (500 bottoms up variables) of our model and then walked through our value cloud, explaining some of the most important variables. It should provide helpful color commentary beyond the article itself but ou can play with the value cloud yourself here. research.33fg.com/analysis/spaceโ€ฆ It's worth noting, that despite these big numbers, we have made many conservative choices like minimal to no AI Enterprise market forecast (so far), no P2P logistics, no in-space manufacturing, terminal multiples anchored against peers, 10% WACC (even though Elon has proven lower cost of capital). As such we feel its reasonable to consider our overall numbers conservative, even if we have a lens of optimism. It's possible to get lower numbers of course, but in most cases these are done by handwaving future plans to zero or CAGR based cashflow forecasts based on comparables that don't actually exist. hope it's helpful.

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CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@aaronburnett My biggest hesitation with SpaceX, is based on Elon's long list of delays. From Starship & FSD, to what seems easy by by comparison. Cybertruck, Semi, 4680s, solar roof etc. SpaceX has a bright future, sure, but it may take longer than promised...
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Aaron Burnett
Aaron Burnett@aaronburnettยท
I find binary spacex takes unhelpful and uninteresting. if you're actually trying to understand where spacex value could ultimately land in the coming years, you should run simulations anchored on the physics constraints of their stated infrastructure plans. SpaceX engineers at the edge of physics, so forecasting those constraints are actually instructive. This isn't a fintech or consumer play where market dynamics swing wildly from week to week and are truly unpredictable. This is hard science and engineering, where truth (in the form of physics) and a little optimism (eg - we won't blow ourselves up in 5 years) can give you a decent view into the future. in this video, I gave a sneak peak at the assumptions page (500 bottoms up variables) of our model and then walked through our value cloud, explaining some of the most important variables. It should provide helpful color commentary beyond the article itself but ou can play with the value cloud yourself here. research.33fg.com/analysis/spaceโ€ฆ It's worth noting, that despite these big numbers, we have made many conservative choices like minimal to no AI Enterprise market forecast (so far), no P2P logistics, no in-space manufacturing, terminal multiples anchored against peers, 10% WACC (even though Elon has proven lower cost of capital). As such we feel its reasonable to consider our overall numbers conservative, even if we have a lens of optimism. It's possible to get lower numbers of course, but in most cases these are done by handwaving future plans to zero or CAGR based cashflow forecasts based on comparables that don't actually exist. hope it's helpful.
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CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@strengthPlan Are we all just a bunch of donkeys or what? I remember thinking, this is great, I can just chuck it all on Tesla and wait till Robotaxi rolls out. High Conviction and Trust in Elon. Then nothing but delays while everything else went 500%
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strengthPlan@strengthPlanยท
I put $2 mil in Tesla stock and every other stock went up except Tesla stock #tsla
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Michael Rauch
Michael Rauch@Michael_L_Rauchยท
Who would be surprised if I cancel my @Rivian R2 reservations and get a @Tesla @cybertruck ? Outrage, shock or โ€œyeah, saw that comingโ€ฆ.โ€ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
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Evan
Evan@StockMKTNewzยท
At the start of the decade Elon Musk wasnโ€™t one of the top 10 richest people in the world Today Elon is worth ~$1 Trillion more than the 2nd richest person in the world
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CyberVan
CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@Tslachan Just a few more training sessions and they'll be ready to go.
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Tsla Chan@Tslachanยท
$TSLA Tesla's top priority is the expansion of Cybercab. You may think the wait is getting longer, but the road they change will be etched in history. I still see a shining future. Rome wasn't built in one day..
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CyberVan
CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@MarioNawfal It's hard to imagine Tesla's future, without Grok in it.
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Mario Nawfal
Mario Nawfal@MarioNawfalยท
In about 3 months or so, Tesla FSD is about to get a very useful next step. Talking to Grok like you would talk to the worldโ€™s calmest Uber driver. โ€œTurn right here.โ€ โ€œDrop us off at the entrance.โ€ โ€œPark farther away, weโ€™ll walk.โ€ That is the difference between a car following directions and a car actually being useful. FSD plus Grok is going to feel very different. @Tesla @Grok / Writer: Annette, Designer: Jannรฉ
Elon Musk@elonmusk

@KHdimples @wholemars @Tesla_AI This functionality will be there in about 3 months or so

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Lunar Optimus
Lunar Optimus@LunarOptimusยท
Worker B's $TSLA ๐Ÿ’ซ๐Ÿช๐Ÿš€ Optimus ๐Ÿฆพ
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CyberVan
CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@Lockyjoon Hopefully all this worrying is for nothing and robotaxi launches at scale first, so we can get a better deal. It will be very disappointing if they rush the merger and only let robotaxi scale after $tsla has been diluted.
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๋กœํ‚ค๋นˆ@Lockyjoonยท
์ผ๋ก ์ด ์ฃผ์ฃผ์˜ ์ด์ต์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑด ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์•Œ์•˜๊ณ  ํ…Œ์Šฌ๋ผ ์Šค์—‘ ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘์€ ๊ธฐ์ •์‚ฌ์‹ค ์•„ ์”จ ๋‚ด๋ˆ ์•„ ์”จ ๋‚ด6๋…„ ใ… ใ…  (๋ณธ๋ฌธ) $SPCX์™€ $TSLA ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘์„ ์„œ๋‘๋ฅด๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” SpaceX์˜ ํ„ฐ๋ฌด๋‹ˆ์—†์ด ๋ถ€ํ’€๋ ค์ง„ ๋ฐธ๋ฅ˜์—์ด์…˜์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ IPO๋Š” ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ธํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜์„ ๊ฒช์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. SpaceX๋Š” ์œ ๋™ ์ฃผ์‹์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ ๊ณ , ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ์ž ๊ธด ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰์˜ ์ฃผ์‹์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Freedom Fulfilled@FreedomFulfill

The only reason to expedite a merger between $SPCX and $TSLA is to take advantage of the wildly inflated SpaceX valuation. Most IPOโ€™s go through this same price inflation. SpaceX has a tiny float and massive amount of shares locked up just waiting for liquidity

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CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@FreedomFulfill It sure would seem that way. Hopefully robotaxi launches at scale first and we can get a better deal. It will be very disappointing if they rush the deal and only let robotaxi scale after the fact.
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Freedom Fulfilled@FreedomFulfillยท
The only reason to expedite a merger between $SPCX and $TSLA is to take advantage of the wildly inflated SpaceX valuation. Most IPOโ€™s go through this same price inflation. SpaceX has a tiny float and massive amount of shares locked up just waiting for liquidity
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Adan Guajardo
Adan Guajardo@AdanGuajardoยท
Tesla is engineering safety right into the Cybercab! A Tesla employee in a production Cybercab simulated a drop-off and pick-up near downtown Austin. He exited from the passenger door, re-entered from the passenger door, and slid over to the driverโ€™s side. The Cybercabโ€™s seats have no middle obstruction, which allows an easy slide across to either side. This makes it safer to exit while avoiding oncoming traffic. The Cybercab can also park very close to the curb and open its butterfly doors upward to avoid scrapping or hitting the curb. This could make it safer to get in and out in certain situations. ๐Ÿ“ท @AdanGuajardo
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CyberVan
CyberVan@starchy73ยท
@Vol888 Let's just chill for a bit.
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Vol888@Vol888ยท
Cybertruck pattern is complete. The market decides where we drive from here. ๐Ÿ˜„ $TSLA
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ฯ†@QuanticASIยท
you should bookmark this
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Gallery Bot@J90236317ยท
ํ…Œ์Šฌ๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ด๋ฒ„์บก์„ ๋‹ค ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋†“๊ณ ๋„ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ ํŒ”์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ํ…์‚ฌ์Šค ์ถœ๊ณ ์žฅ์— ์‚ฌ์ด๋ฒ„์บก์ด ์Œ“์—ฌ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋‘๊ณ  ๋‚˜์˜จ ๋ถ„์„์ด๋‹ค. ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•˜๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์ด๋ฒ„์บก์€ ํ•ธ๋“ค๋„ ํŽ˜๋‹ฌ๋„ ์—†์–ด์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ง์ ‘ ๋ชฐ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค. ์˜ค์ง ๋กœ๋ณดํƒ์‹œ๋กœ ๊ตด๋ ค์•ผ ๋ˆ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ฐจ์ธ๋ฐ, ๋ฌด๊ฐ๋… FSD ์™„์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋‹น๊ตญ ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋–จ์–ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์ „์—” ๊ตด๋ฆด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์—†๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ดˆ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ํ…์‚ฌ์Šค์—์„œ ์–‘์‚ฐ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์‹œ์ž‘๋๊ณ , ํ•ธ๋“ค ์—†๋Š” ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ทœ์ œ ๋ฉด์ œ์™€ ์ฃผ๋ณ„ ๋กœ๋ณดํƒ์‹œ ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๊ด€๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚จ์•˜๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ๋„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋ผ์ธ์€ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. ๋…ธ๋ฆผ์ˆ˜๋Š” 'ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— ์ผœ๊ธฐ'๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ฒœ ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์ฐ”๋”์ฐ”๋” ํ’€๋ฉด ์ž„ํŒฉํŠธ๋„ ์—†๊ณ  ๊ตํ†ตยทPR ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋งŒ ๋‚œ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ์–ด๋А ๋‚  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ฒœ ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๋™์‹œ์— ๋„์‹œ๋ฅผ ๊ตด๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ์žฅ๋ฉด ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‰ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์Œ“์ด๋Š” ์žฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ๊ทธ 'D-day'๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์žฅ์ „ํ•ด ๋‘” ์‹คํƒ„์ธ ์…ˆ์ด๋‹ค. ์ง„์งœ ๊ด€์ „ ํฌ์ธํŠธ๋Š” ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋Œ€์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. FSD ์™„์„ฑ๋„์™€ ๊ทœ์ œ ์Šน์ธ์ด ๋งž์•„๋–จ์–ด์ง€๋Š”, ์Šค์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ ์ผœ๋Š” ๊ทธ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋‹ค.
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