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Logic is defenseless against stupidity!

@AsherHopp @MrHodl @ProductionReady @Excellion @jimmysong @parkeralewis @jratcliff It’s not an alternative client, it’s just Bitcoin Core. If you really want alternatives check btcd or libbitcoin.

Why would alternative client implementations necessarily be for filtering or bip110? Surely that's too narrow a scope for a whole new client. We already have clients for those things. Why is donating to a new client implementation initiative more scammy than donating to bCore? Great work though, I'm sure if you keep this up you'll get promoted to GS-13 any day now, comes with better cafeteria perks at the Pentagon, Agent Hodl!

Congrats @Excellion @jimmysong @parkeralewis @jratcliff! This looks awesome! Can't wait to see what projects are funded through this initiative. Crazy potential here.

@TTrevethan @MrHodl You have to trust nodes aren’t lying, censoring (or tracking you). Less verification = more trust required.

@MrHodl There is no trust required with an SPV wallet, only an assumption that the most-work chain is fully valid.

Satoshi thought fraudprooofs would exist by now. The BCAshers think that the SPV wallets we have today are what Satoshi was referring to. Satoshi thought we'd have fraudproofs. (We don't) You trust a trusted 3rd party with SPV wallets. But this isn't an SPV wallet. This is a bitcoin core wrapper.

@dathon_ohm @Kurtis_NZ Bitcoin can never be a file sharing network and there will always be ways to embed arbitrary data. You are either idiots or bad actors. Even with the recent price doubling, 2TB of storage is less than $100 and it will last you for years. Bandwidth is also becoming cheaper.

@Kurtis_NZ If Bitcoin continues down the path to becoming a file-sharing network, then the risk is absolutely fatal, even if it is possible for hardware to keep up with all of the spam.

Updated chain growth vs projected storage improvement chart using more historic input data and better modelling. #bitcoin won't die. Worst that will happen is near term people will have to upgrade their node hardware sooner than they hoped.

@umbrel 16 TB ~= 100-150 years blockchain data

"but what do you need 16TB for" mind your business

@hodlonaut @adam3us @Pledditor Dude, what happened to you? Sad 😔. Logout of X for a few days. Get outside. Find a better fight.

I’m tired of your insults. I am providing investigative journalism, everything is sourced with screenshots and URLs. I’m doing it because I care about Bitcoin. You sit there arrogantly handwaving honest concerns, throwing insults and ad hominems towards people uncovering extremely alarming behavior and governance by Bitcoin’s reference implementation, while being invested in all kinds of grifts, while not even commenting on fucked up emails connecting you to Epstein’s island. You have fallen completely, Adam. Just sad to see. Now fuck off.

Wouldn't it be nice if "Today's News" was actually news, and not just a repackaged version of your "For You" feed.

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@Pledditor Unfortunately you are absolutely right.

Watching the BIP 110 situation unfold has been so tragic and heartbreaking for me to watch. So many of my friends, people I can personally attest are die-hard bitcoiners, became devoured by their own bitcoin maximalism. I know them well. For them, their devotion to Bitcoin has always been intertwined with their own identity and self purpose. Bitcoin represented purity in a flawed world, and owning bitcoin made them feel a sense of righteousness and moral superiority. But a dilemma arose once they discovered bitcoin was actually full of impurities, aka inscriptions, and it led to a severe case of bitcoin derangement. They faced a choice: either accept that the "purity" was always just a mental abstraction they projected onto bitcoin, or double down and delude yourself further into believing the idealized version of bitcoin you had in your head was real, it was just Bitcoin Core v30 was the villain who took it away. Now, living under that delusion, they've positioned themselves as the saviors, fighting to restore a delusion that never actually existed. It's just sad.

@Arthur_van_Pelt … It’s not spam. The same way can you value $5 note more, because it has specific serial number. It may matter to some, but for others it has no impact on value. The same way you can value more a transaction sent to you from Satoshi himself.

@Arthur_van_Pelt Ordinals theory can’t die. It’s just an ordering in a sequence of sats in transitions. You are confused. It has no actual effect on bitcoin whatsoever. People can value one UTXO over another, and that’s their problem….

"never" 🤭

@dathon_ohm @tdryja @zndtoshi @jimmysong @Rob1Ham Yeah, sure. Can’t imagine all the shit with the fork, what a mess it will make. Good luck 👍🍀

@tdryja @zndtoshi @jimmysong @Rob1Ham I don't have time to audit some novel betting contract right now. I am busy with other things at the moment.

Made a Bip110 bet with @dathon_ohm for 1 btc each. The winner is decided by which chain a Core v29 node follows 24h after forced activation at block 965664. We created a multisig wallet with @jimmysong and he will be the oracle for it. Hats off to Dathon for his conviction. We need more bitcoiners like this.

@RyanTheGentry @roasbeef The macaroon is the problem. Keep it simple.

This is precisely the problem that L402 solves. @roasbeef designed it to: "enable a strong decoupling of authentication and payment logic from application logic" nearly 6 years ago, with exactly this use case in mind. A Claude Code agent trying to access an L402-gated developer tool endpoint will: 1) hit the endpoint, and get a 402 Payment Required error with an invoice to pay to access 2) pay the invoice autonomously from its LN wallet 3) receive a time-limited, revocable session credential in return (the L402 token, a fancy macaroon) 4) proceed to leverage the developer tool with zero human involvement, zero account sign-up flow, zero spam risk, and the developer tool made some money! This new paradigm will allow agents to build in a truly autonomous manner, with no human in the loop. The tools are ready, and adding L402 support is how devs can make their APIs agent-native today 👇

@Mandrik @nvk It's great for payers, but it's a bit more complicated for payees. Fixed sats amount invoices with dynamic convert rates (for fiat or alternatives) are a nightmare. Receiving money anonymously is another issue.

@nvk You obviously have a very different experience with Lightning as a business owner trying to implement it for payments. From a user side, I've done nothing but use lightning for the past few years. I think it's awesome, but I can't relate to whatever struggles you have with it.

I'm not hating on Lightning, i'm just a extremely frustrated Lightning potential customer trying his best to use it instead of shitcoins and credit cards. Fix the tech, this is customer feedback.

@giacomozucco @MayaPar25 @bitcoinpasada @hodlonaut Remember kids, EVERYONE IS A SCAMMER! Even Giacomo (and @bitstein as well). All they want is your Bitcoin. So do your own research (@NakamotoInst) and trust no one. Educate yourself (@planb_network) Run a node, use high entropy for keys (@COLDCARDwallet) and chill.

@MayaPar25 @bitcoinpasada @hodlonaut Yes, if it broke RGB I would considering it even worse. :)

Premise: Bitcoin's core value is to be Money. As pristine money as possible. Fee competition and congestion due to grift spam works as a tax on monetary use, which is obviously negative towards being pristine money. But more seriously imo is that using Bitcoin for other purposes than money, introduces hidden economic dilution/inflation. Spawning thousands of competing tokens, memecoins and NFTs on Bitcoin, leveraging its security and reputation, diverts capital and attention from BTC itself. Speculators and normies chase these derivatives out of greed, instead of holding BTC for its scarcity and monetary properties. This is like expanding the "pie" of BTC as a value carrier with junk assets. BTC's monetary premium gets diluted as the chain becomes a crowded data/token platform rather than pristine money. Conclusion: Any standardizing or facilitating of non monetary use of Bitcoin undermines its core mission and value proposition.

@hodlonaut @adam3us Relay policy vs Consensus

@adam3us Uncapping op_return created a civil war for no real gain. You call that conservative security first approach with a straight face?

It would be good to know if the risk of BIP-110 freezing funds is largely theoretical or something that would actually affect real life users. It is one of the things that give me pause.

@willywoo @adam3us I can't believe that after all these years you still don't understand this.

@adam3us Deprecating an old signature type surely creates a hard fork because an earlier version of the software will honour the transaction therefore splitting the chain. What am I missing?

12 YR TREND BROKEN. BTC should be a valued a LOT HIGHER relative to gold. Should be. IT'S NOT. The valuation trend broke down once QUANTUM came into awareness. Don't read this post if you want to stay high on hopium instead of seeing things as they are.

@LukeDashjr @KLoaec @LiliH65289916 @BitcoinBombadil @_PyBlock_

@KLoaec @LiliH65289916 @BitcoinBombadil @_PyBlock_ Liar

For context, for the 110 fork people: Miniscript uses things called fragments. Some of these fragments use op_if, that your fork disables for some reason. A user defines what their wallet should be, for example "a 2-of-5 multisig". Miniscript will output a Bitcoin Script (a wallet basically) that is the best and safest way currently known to do this policy in Bitcoin. Disabling an opcode that is very much a building brick for safe Bitcoin wallets is dumb, but also has a big engineering cost on: - the engineers who build the Miniscript engine - the devs that implemented it, in Core and in multiple libraries like Rust-Miniscript - wallet devs - wallet users who may unknowingly have such a policy. This cost cannot just be denied or ignored by "there is a 2 weeks window" it'll take a lot more than 2 weeks to do (took 3 years to get Miniscript anywhere), and users may be impacted without knowing so. Bip 110 is all about virtue signaling and ignoring real costs on the ecosystem, including potential loss of coins for users who did nothing wrong, just used a good wallet software.

Did an asteroid filled with Bitcoin hit the earth?

@Jet_iiv @BitcoinErrorLog 1) what

@BitcoinErrorLog Like your old self with backbone to call out spam and actually doing something about it?

I deserve more honorable rivals.

@LukeDashjr @gazza_jenks @SwissHodler 1) what

@gazza_jenks @SwissHodler US DoJ showed that.

There’s been a lot of noise lately around the Epstein stuff being dragged into Bitcoin discourse, and in my humble opinion, it’s getting sloppy. Meeting a criminal once does not make you complicit in their crimes. Knowing someone, crossing paths, or being in the same room is not evidence of wrongdoing. If that standard applied universally, half the world would be “guilty by proximity.” @adam3us has been around long before Bitcoin had a price, a narrative, or an audience. He’s an OG cypherpunk who was publishing and building when there was nothing to gain and no one watching. That doesn’t get erased because the internet discovered a new FUD angle. It’s fine to ask questions. It’s healthy to be skeptical. But turning guilt by association into a weapon just cheapens the conversation and distracts from what actually matters. Bitcoin doesn’t need saints. It needs people who shipped, contributed, and showed up early when it counted. Let’s keep some basic standards intact, even when emotions and engagement farming get in the way. UGH, I have spoken.