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@Fundamentals21m The market has proven Steven's take incorrect. BTCTCs are not new. Investment trusts for various assets have existed since the 1920s. REITs (or for lack of a better term, "Real Estate treasury companies") are very popular today and universally, they don't trade at premiums.
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@Pledditor Mateo’s take was the bad one. Steven’s take is correct - but there is more to exploiting an arb. This story isn’t over by a long shot.
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Throwback Thursday of to one of the worst takes of Paper Bitcoin Summer

Matteo Pellegrini@matteopelleg
i will never understand why people think that a business that does nothing but hold bitcoin should be worth more than the bitcoin itself (positive mnav)
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And mind you, he said this:
-While acting as the Investor Relations of a BTCTC that was trading at over a 10x mNAV.
-While telling people the BTCTC market was showing no signs of froth/unsustainability
-While creating the "Paper Bitcoin Summer" campaign
-While knowing NAKA's PIPE unlocks at Summer's end
That's why I consider him to be one of the most unsavory figures during that whole saga. Either he was intentionally malicious, or he's just that dumb. And I don't think he's dumb.
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@GhostofWhitman Most of them either capitulated, pivoted to AI or transitioned to "fintech".
The dream is over. Businesses from 2017 and 2021 era are finally starting to admit it too.
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Tally@tallyxyz
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Rare Nikita W.
BTCTherapist is pure slop. Can't tell you how many times he stole my tweets over the past 3 years
Nikita Bier@nikitabier
@TheBTCTherapist Ah, bummer. Maybe you could monetize one of the other 3 Bitcoin accounts you use to cross-promote this account.
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@HodlMagoo @TulsiGabbard It's not just Tulsi. Nearly all of the Trump cabinet made their identities as being "anti-war".
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David Sacks@DavidSacks
By large majorities, the American people don’t want Iran to obtain a nuclear bomb. They also don’t want another Forever War in the Middle East. President Trump threaded this needle perfectly.
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@arshbot @LamboWhale I think the best thing a crypto company could do for their shareholders is IPO in a bitcoin bear market so the gains don't all get front-ran by the insiders.
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@arshbot @LamboWhale I'd argue the relationship works opposite
IPO in bear market = pumpy for retail
IPO at bull market = "IPO dive"
Just look at Gemini. Coinbase. All the treasury companies. They timed the top. Their stocks post-IPO were all straight lines down.
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One of my favorite headlines is when a token launch or stock market IPO gets delayed because bitcoin entered a bear market.
It reveals that insiders getting their quick liquidity event was their only motivation for tapping the public markets.
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Tree News@TreeNewsFeed
COINDESK: Crypto exchange Kraken freezes multibillion-dollar IPO plan due to difficult market conditions coindesk.com/business/2026/…
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@LamboWhale I just think broadly, real builders are incentivized to take the going rate of capital. Builders want to scale and execute quickly. Not sit on their hands and wait around for the perfect bull market top. That's mostly the concerns of the value extractors (aka the cap table).
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@Pledditor But the capital they raise by issuing stock is directly tied to the share price...better market, better share price (theoretically)
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The charitable, non-cynical reason why companies IPO is so they have access to a new fundraising mechanism that allows for rapid growth. They get to raise capital by issuing shares, and then use that capital to scale up and grow the size of the company.
If executives are so concerned about what share price they get to dump at, that it causes them to cancel IPO plans, that's a red flag IMO. It means IPO intentions were always cashgrabby, and were never about seeking growth.
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@Pledditor I mean this nicely....why else would you go public? The whole point is to access public liquidity...wait a few months maybe a year or two and get 2x the liquidity compared to today, wouldn't you do the same?
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@Swish5wisher Apparently I'm being paid by Citrea....or is it Chaincode labs.... or is it David Bailey.....or the is it CIA...or the Jews.
My funding source changes depending on which BIP-110 bro you ask.
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Yeah. Didn't like throttling ETFs. He also could have more constructive...like we get you bring the hammer on the shitcoins. But how about also propose a path forward for people to do it the right and legal way? Also they dropped the ball in the Ripple case. It was an easy lay-up, they should have won it. SEC lawyers were totally incompetent.
But I am pro-Gensler on virtually everything else. His vision of how this space should be classified largely aligns with mine.
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@Pledditor there is some shady shit he did too retarding the industry ... but on the enforcement side I mostly agree.
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