No Code Coder

@dawiddrzala @Layton_Gott Agree. And 80% of the time, flying with auto-pilot works just fine. It's that other 20% of the time I'd be worried about. I wouldn't wanna be on that plane when it goes wrong & the vibe-pilot doesn't have a clue what he's doing 😬

@Layton_Gott It is more like asking a pilot if he can fly without autopilot, and guess what he can

I CAN'T code without AI. And I'm not even a little ashamed to admit that. "But could you build it without AI?" Who cares. We HAVE AI. That question is like asking a pilot if they could fly without a plane. I've shipped more with Claude Code in 3 months than most "real developers" ship in a year. Users DON'T care how you wrote the code. They care if it works. No matter if that's with AI or manual.

My wife recently started making bread. After a number of goes she nailed it, as good as the local bakery and much better than shop bought. Then I realised, if anyone can do this then bakeries are finished, no one will ever buy bread again cos they'll just make their own. Right?

@sickdotdev I hate myself and everything I've everything I've ever done or created but I still do it daily.

Tell me you’re a founder without telling me you’re a founder.

@DanKulkov A week? Maybe you should read the book "Inside Intuit" about the struggles they had in their early days, now with $18.8B a year in sales. Maybe give it at least as long as it took you to develop it in the first place.

unfortunately and it pains me to say it it seems that if you don't get a sale for your product in the first week you should not invest any more time in that product like at all this is sad but i feel like it's true

@shahh With the AI boom, why aren't you making fat stacks right now? You should be loaded or you're just lazy and bad with money. Oh yeah ... you don't have a crystal ball either. Hindsight, which you now have the benefit of from those events, is always right & always worth nothing.

Serious question for the older generation How are you not rich yet? You had: Gold at $30 Bitcoin at $100 The chance to buy domain names for pennies The entire internet boom before saturation Cheap college with little or no debt Apple before it took over the world NVIDIA before AI exploded Amazon before it killed traditional shopping Netflix, before streaming took over Meanwhile, our generation gets: $70k Bitcoin Real estate inflated 10–20x from what you paid $1T tech companies already priced to perfection Student debt, before we can start investing Retirement accounts that require 60 years to accumulate But we’re the generation that’s 'lazy' and 'bad with money.'

@delveroin Why am I even here then?

You’re in a tech interview and they ask you: “Why should we hire you when we can use Claude?” What would you say?

Well, I'm doing a deep dive on it. I'm still on the fence as to whether it's No Code + AI or just AI, but certainly my eyes were opened. Still love No Code/Visual Dev though, so many great tools, it would be shame to lose them to the AI juggernaut, hopefully there's still a place for them in the mix. My issue with AI is cost, but with token costs coming down and models like MiniMax M2.5 making it v cheap (around 5% the cost of Claude Opus 4.6) then it may soon be a non-issue.

@nocodecoder Lol , you've finally seen it, I've switched from no code @bubble , @weweb_io , @nocodebackend to code again again since last year for the same reasons. No code just doesn't make sense anymore for me , but I'm grateful for helping me do a lot of things before AI

My longest standing no-code colleague has rebuilt his Nordcraft & Supabase app (built over 6 months+) from scratch in a week using Claude Code, Svelte, Shadcn & Convex. It's blown my mind 🤯. I've been v sceptical but having seen it with my own eyes, maybe it needs another look. He's not a coder but has worked with several no-code tools over recent years and is experienced at designing & building systems, which he says were essential skills to help him rebuild the app using AI. He says he's now a product manager and the actual programming/coding aspect is done by AI. The original app, built in Nordcraft (a no-code/visual development platform) was in-progress and he didn't think he could meet his March deadline using no-code, so he took the chance to spend time trying to build with AI to see if the reality matched the "hype". It was clear within a couple of days that he was building faster and got to parity with his no-code build in just a week. I'm not posting this to add to the AI hype, quite the opposite. I'm going to test this out myself over the next week or so to validate it, cos I just didn't believe it ... until now! I got into no-code to build applications faster than with code and, despite my initial scepticism, it proved to be correct. If AI enables us to build even faster than no-code then, regardless of my scepticism, I will need to adapt yet again. 😬

3-TRILLION in one week🫨🚀

@HauseBenjamin I'm working with OpenCode using Kimi. Claude Code is a little on the costly side for my taste just while I'm trying things out.

@nocodecoder I'm having a similar experience. Claude Code + Convex is just really good.

Kimi K2.5 on @opencode Zen is hilariously cheap. I bought $20 worth of tokens two weeks ago, and I still have $10.89 left! After 3M tokens! If there's a bubble in AI, it's pricing a million tokens at $25 (and beyond).

@markessien The moats were always in distribution. That's not changed one iota.

Peter Steinberger made the right decision to join OpenAI, and it's reflective of how the software industry has changed. In the past you could build something and it would take a year before competitors built it. Now it's built in 2 days. The moats are in distribution.

@craigzLiszt It's not clear at all. Nothing is. There will be a shift, to what extent is the question. While In tech everyone is frothing over AI, in the real world there's no way every SME is gonna get a jnr to vibe code their own Quickbooks, Hubspot etc to save a few 100/1000 bucks a year.

it’s pretty clear that saas will be a thing of the past

It always was! Building the product was always the easiest part of starting a SaaS/software business, even back in the 90s. That hasn't changed. What's changed is how much quicker you can get the product to market but even that is being overhyped. Building production, market-ready software, no matter how you do it, is still difficult and requires skill & experience. The idea that everyone can do it, without learning some in-depth skills, is a myth.

Hot take: Building is now easy. Marketing is the new bottleneck.

@Adityapandeydev If I spend enough time driving my car, I'll eventually automatically learn how to build one myself. Sure.

Unpopular opinion: if you spend enough time vibe coding, you'll eventually learn to code

@Tech_girlll Man, I started programming in 1989 and even I never touched COBOL. It was talked about as a legacy language even then. Pascal, C, BASIC, Assembly & 4GLs but not COBOL.

IBM uses COBOL JPMorgan Chase uses COBOL Bank of America uses COBOL Wells Fargo uses COBOL Citibank uses COBOL American Express uses COBOL Visa uses COBOL Mastercard uses COBOL U.S. Government agencies use COBOL Major airlines use COBOL What’s stopping you from learning COBOL??

@Layton_Gott New flash! It always was.

Coding was once a skill... Now AI writes better code than most devs The new skill? Distribution

@james_xond I do that for free now! 🤣

If someone offered you $200k to stay inside your house and not step outside for 90 days, would you do it?

@KyleTranAI @SimonHoiberg That's always been the case anyway.

@SimonHoiberg Agree, the moat shifts from code to distribution and trust, so execution focus and market fit become the true differentiators

In the next few years, I think we'll see a big shift in SaaS. Software is becoming commoditized. Cheap to create, cheap to run. And for a lot of businesses, it's going to shift from being the core offer to a free addition on top of an underlying service. And as a consequence, I think Open Source software is about to have a massive comeback. Cause people are concerned about slop. Especially in code (for obvious reasons). Free and Open Source software offers the transparency needed here. But this also means that SaaS founders have to shift their thinking. Especially when it comes to monetizing their projects. I have a few cool ideas thought! Here's one of them 👇

@zalimidis @SimonHoiberg That's always been the case.

@SimonHoiberg I believe the differentiator in SaaS will be the level of service, trust and reliability... not the SaaS itself.