George Sinclair

@LamLaw1969 @ArmstrongEcon If the CCP doesn't want western media to spin 4 June, 1989, why doesn't the government just allow "everyone" to talk about it and argue it out instead of suppression?

@LamLaw1969 @ArmstrongEcon No, you are wrong. Eyewitness accounts including "Tiananmen Mothers" documented that troops fired on unarmed citizens and students throughout the city including Changan Avenue, not just Tiananmen Square.

Thirty-seven years have passed since the events of June 4, 1989, and yet the Chinese government continues to devote enormous resources to preventing people from remembering it. That fact alone should tell you how significant the event remains.

@LamLaw1969 Wru? You realise you have lost the argument?

@LamLaw1969 Lol you were the one ignoring my comments and responding to other comments only until you asked you to come back.

Hong Kong was long the main place where large-scale, open remembrance of the events of Tiananmen Square in 1989 was possible. It drew hundreds of thousands. In mainland China, it is snuffed out to a degree that is shocking. Steadily, this has been eroded by the authorities. In 2020, under the premise of covid19 restrictions, there was a clamp down. Many defied it; arrests followed for unlawful assembly. This coincided with Beijing imposing the National Security Law (NSL) in June 2020, which broadly targeted secession, subversion. In 2021, Tiananmen memorials, museums, and statues (like the "Pillar of Shame") were removed from universities. Arrests and detentions continued throughout the years for the mere crime of bringing flowers, wearing black clothing, or even just social media posts in commemoration of the Tiananmen massacre. Just a few weeks ago, the trial of the former organizers of the yearly Tiananmen vigil concluded. They await the verdict, which is almost certain to be a jail sentence. This year, the authorities have banned family and relatives of the victims from visiting their graves in Beijing. The ruthless efforts of intensifying censorship by the CCP has swallowed the truth in the land where it happened and now, Hong Kong which was the keeper of its memory. But this role is no longer, even if it still exists in the hearts and minds of Hong Kongers. To those of us overseas, this is a duty. We are the keepers of a memory the powerful wish to bury. In our living rooms, across time zones, through late-night conversations and quiet tears, we hold the history to which there are no more monuments, to which there are blank pages in the history books. We remember the students with their hunger strikes and hopeful banners. We remember the ordinary citizens who stood beside them. We remember Tank Man. We remember the mothers who lost children and were told their grief was unpatriotic. We remember because forgetting would betray not just history, but the very humanity we share. We honor the courage of those who stood in the square and the quiet strength of those who still mourn in private. We keep alive the dream that was crushed but never fully extinguished. I hope those of us overseas will post the images, share the news and tell the stories. In this act of fidelity, we become a bridge between what was lost and what may yet be reclaimed. The CCP may control the narrative within its borders, and now increasingly, well beyond them, but we in the West with an open information ecosystem have a duty to not let this memory die. As long as we remember, they have not won. June 4th, 2026 37th Anniversary

@LamLaw1969 @Anita4048797681 Why didn't the government accept Chinese protesters' demand instead when they were peacefully protesting for a month?

grok: During the PLA's advance toward Tiananmen Square on June 3-4 1989, crowds in western Beijing (e.g. along Chang'an Ave near Muxidi and Gongzhufen) blocked roads and attacked troops. Documented incidents: - Protesters threw rocks, Molotov cocktails and objects at soldiers. - Military vehicles and APCs were overturned and set on fire; some soldiers burned inside. - Soldiers were dragged from trucks/APCs and severely beaten. Reports describe at least one soldier beaten to death from the first APC near the square area, with his body later hung from a bus. - Official Chinese figures: ~10 PLA soldiers + 13 PAP killed, hundreds wounded in clashes. Some eyewitnesses (incl. journalists) reported similar attacks and ~dozen+ security deaths. These violent confrontations during attempts to clear blockades escalated the use of live fire by troops. Most civilian deaths occurred on the western approaches, not inside the square. Accounts of exact triggers and scale differ by source.

@sazadm91 @ying_cu_dog But you are not Chinese. That's the OP point.

@ying_cu_dog @kassad Pretty good until now:))) I traveled 37 countries including US Spain and China are the best

China might be the best country in the world right now. The more i read about it, the more impressed i m.

@localwestoid Just focus on this source. Are you say that the Tiananmen Square protest was completely organized by the west? I need to understand your opinion so we can talk about it.

@GeorgeFSinclair @CheburekiMan @KenRoth a lot share.google/M25h1J87iVOxRW…

The Chinese people wanted democracy. The Chinese government refused to let them have it -- and still does. It claims they want the dictatorship of the Chinese Communist Party. Our memory of Tiananmen tells us otherwise, so Beijing tries to suppress it. trib.al/ADnrbV2

@localwestoid @CheburekiMan @KenRoth What did the West do during the Tiananmen Square massacre?

@GeorgeFSinclair @CheburekiMan @KenRoth *because if the chinese try to change it themselves the west always gets involved

@LamLaw1969 Why do you narrow it into rioter only right now? Why didn’t you say in your first comment? Why did you mislead anyone? x.com/i/status/20628…

@GeorgeFSinclair @MarioNawfal Yup, so they did not die becos there was no massacre of peaceful protestors. Only rioters died

🇨🇳 Censorship in China is backfiring now that young Chinese are secretly learning about the Tiananmen Square massacre. Even with AI scrubbing every trace of June 4, 1989 from the internet, China’s Gen Z is finding the truth anyway... and often in the weirdest ways! Olympic skater Alysa Liu’s dad was a Tiananmen protester who fled. When she won gold, Chinese netizens exploded: some called him a traitor, others got curious. One 20-year-old Wuhan student dropped a hint on RedNote and her comment got nuked in hours. Teens are stumbling on it through random livestreams and digging behind the firewall. They come out stunned: “I had no idea the protests were that huge” or “my whole worldview just collapsed.” The regime’s total blackout is actually creating curiosity bombs. Young Chinese are horrified when they learn students were shot and tanks rolled over people, and some now want out. Truth will always find cracks. Even the Great Firewall can’t stop it forever. Source: Washington Post

@LamLaw1969 @MarioNawfal Why did they have to flee from China?

@GeorgeFSinclair @MarioNawfal Nope, only communist workers who rioted outside Tiananmen Square died. All the student leaders were spared becos they had protested peacefully within Tiananmen Square

@LamLaw1969 Show me evidences if you believe there is a link.

@GeorgeFSinclair Nope, that’s not what the records show

@LamLaw1969 Where did Zhang Boil say they were rioters?

@GeorgeFSinclair Yup, rioters outside Tiananmen were massacred and they deserved it for killing law enforcement officers

@LamLaw1969 Zhang Boil said people were killed x.com/i/status/20626…

@GeorgeFSinclair Nope, Zhang Boli said otherwise

@LamLaw1969 Why did you purposely ignore this part? x.com/i/status/20628…

@GeorgeFSinclair Yup, and they voted to leave peacefully which was why they were not massacred

@HandsOffDPRK Let's focus on your source one by one. "Socialism and Democracy in the DPRK" does not mention US troops at all, nor does it provide any evidence to debunk what Kim Jong-il said. You just simply dropped a random article.

Kim Jong-il is not a communist dictator and what primary source is their for him Kim Jong-il saying this? Just hearsay from the south korean president. I found a source debunking this heresay. Socialism and Democracy in the DPRK com893825716.wordpress.com/2020/04/26/soc… The Constitution and parliamentary system of the democratic peoples of korea drive.google.com/file/d/1DX6cXC… Socialism and democracy in the DPRK - Write to rebel web.archive.org/web/2017071611… writetorebel.com/2017/03/28/soc… Debunking that the DPRK is a monarchy challenge-magazine.org/2022/02/03/is-… The Democratic Structure of the DPRK lalkar.org/article/2654/t… archive.is/c0e4q A NIDS paper explicitly says the report that Kim Jong Il would not demand US troop withdrawal “turns out to be wrong,” because the DPRK website was still arguing for withdrawal after the summit. nids.mod.go.jp/english/event/…

India is right there as an example of what would have happened if China had allowed itself to become a neocolony.

@Jushg5ve Why can't the USSR be rich when it was next to finland? Remember they de facto colonised East Europe and East Germany.

@GeorgeFSinclair It has to do with it, because Europe was more technologically advanced because of colonialism so they could use their money given in industries they already mastered

China should 'acknowledge the truth' about Tiananmen, Taiwan president says reut.rs/3S0j199 reut.rs/3S0j199

@HandsOffDPRK I hope you can answer this question.

@HandsOffDPRK During the 2000 summit, Kim Jong Il told Kim Dae-jung that he wanted US troops to stay in Korea to keep China and Russia from taking over. If a communist dictator believed the US military presence is a stabilizer, not occupying colonial force, why are you still arguing?

@Jushg5ve You just say the USA lends money to Europe so Europe is rich. Then nothing to do with colonialism?

The USA and western Europe post ww2 was heavily intertwined might aswell call it neighbours it was then iron clad alliance the USA lends money to Europe to allow their reconstruction others weren’t so lucky like China was still facing civil wars and others in Africa were poor and some still experiencing colonialism then by France and Indonesia by Dutch until a bit later than ww2

@HandsOffDPRK Why not?

@GeorgeFSinclair No

@Jushg5ve Ok, can you please answer this question again? You know USA and Germany are not neighbours right? x.com/i/status/20629…

@GeorgeFSinclair No as I said before colonialism Gave them a head start not just in gdp but technologically too while other nations were ravaged by colonialism and had to start from zero like India and others like China post ww2, yes it was not just that but also do to the context of the Cold War