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@BasedEmbraced
Seek the truth. Creation reveals the glory of God. God is saviour of all people. Read 1 Timothy 4:10 ๐ ๐ผ๐น๐ฅ๐ซ โฅ๏ธ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฑ
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@MatthewDoyle4 @MrTimothyRenfro That is a foolish view.
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Poor God. He has done everything possible to save people, but they just won't let him. It's all by grace, but at the most crucial point where one determines whether they will or will not be saved, grace is impotent. It's entirely up to them, and if they don't let God save them, there is nothing he can do.
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It isnโt the atheist equivalent.
โNothing can come from nothingโ is a rule theists invoke and then conveniently suspend for their favourite being.
Thatโs special pleading.
Darwin to Jesus@darwintojesus
You know how theists sometimes say, โif humans come from monkeys why are there still monkeys?โ This is the atheist equivalent of that.
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@AtheistTakes Not exactly.
Although I get some religious types have this view.
There are levels hereโฆ
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@KhusrauParviz @philosophymeme0 lol yep.
The atheists โparadoxโ is too simplistic and ignores things such as struggle, patience and virtue.
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@philosophymeme0 This ignores the necessity of struggle
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@enrico08774459 @TheSkepticWiz Atheists not being charitable again - imagine that.
The fact is there are other substitution /atonement theories.
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@TheSkepticWiz Atheist have the most ridiculous interpretation of religion. ๐ And they don't believe God exist.
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@TheSkepticWiz This is only one interpretation. A very poor one.
There are atonement/substitution theories.
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@darwintojesus There are levels to this. Many are operating at level 0 or 1.
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Babies shouldn't get cancer and Adam shouldn't have rebelled against God. This is why sin is so serious, because of the fallout it causes. Blaming God for your choices and their consequences only makes you look ignorant.
The Skeptic@TheSkepticWiz
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@darwintojesus The struggle is necessary.
Classic case of โI want to develop virtue without developing virtueโ
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Itโs not to test us, itโs to have a meaningful relationship with us.
philosophy memes ๐@philosophymeme0
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@willsworldview @BasicHeresy @darwintojesus Itโs demonstrably true that subjective morality is immoral
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@BasicHeresy @darwintojesus Atheists: โmorality doesnโt existโ
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And you donโt see a problem here?
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@darwintojesus Hello? Will you engage in good faith?
Iโm an atheist. Morality doesnโt exist. Stop the strawman itโs lazy. Unless all you care about is rage bait and clicks.
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@darwintojesus Itโs a little alarming the number of people in this thread; admitting either implicitly or blatantly that nothing is actually wrong.
Yikes ๐ฌ
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@Idontevenk85653 @darwintojesus No one. Thats the point. Without a God, you have no objective value or significance. Your life, loves, achievements, and suffering vanish. With a God, creator of our universe, he stopped even if briefly to create you. You are objectively valuable and, therefore, have meaning
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@iamAtheistGirl lol yes we know moths can have different colors - itโs in their genetics.
This does not in any way show that a fish ultimately evolved into a human.
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evolution is when white moths and the occasional mutation black moths live in a forest of predominantly white trees
the white moths are more easily able to survive because they blend in with their surroundings so theyโre more likely to reproduce than the mutation black moths.
but then the industrial revolution happens and the once white trees are covered in soot turning them black. now the mutation black moths are more easily able to survive and reproduce. so the moths shift from predominantly white to predominantly black because they are more adapted to the newly blackened trees.
evolution isnโt a force or a plan.
itโs just the change in which traits become more common in a population over generations.
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@BigSkyDBG @McClureShawn The argument from causation ๐
Any atheists here capable of steel-manning this argument?
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@McClureShawn Atheists: Look at this long train passing us! Each car is pulling the one behind it! No origin!
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@McClureShawn @NoOnePortant The one that created the universeโฆ duh
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@McClureShawn Atheists have trouble understanding โuncreatedโ when it comes to a mind. Oddly they donโt have any trouble assigning the status of uncreated to the universe itselfโฆ
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