@milanwyddd Because Stroll and Kovalainen are much better than Tsunoda?
Or am I missing something?
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If you go for a gap that does not exist, you are a stupid driver
가입일 Haziran 2025
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@FormulAnalyst its a useless and stupid comparison.
verstappen gets 0 podiums with the 24 aston.
verstappen doesnt win anything with the 09 mclaren that wasnt already won with it
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are my eyes decieving me or does that shit say 2024 aston and 2009 mclsren
Formula Analyst@FormulAnalyst
@effonecasualfan I mean, judging by the content below, Verstappen could have won in the 2023 Aston Martin, the 2024 Aston Martin or in the 2009 McLaren (many other examples exist) Avg Qualifying position Stroll 2023 - 12.727 Stroll 2024 - 12.917 Kovalainen 2009 - 11.382 Tsunoda 2025 - 12.381
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Don't leave any cake for the RB22
He would eat it all
Oracle Red Bull Racing@redbullracing
Reflecting on the first two races and looking ahead to Japan, with Isack and Laurent on Campus 🏡 #F1 || #RedBullRacing
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@racebottler5000 @milanwyddd He had great teammates, and he had the numbers of Hulkenberg against them
I balance it out and it doesn't scream "GOAT" to me
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@FormulAnalyst @milanwyddd Is it just that hard to admit that Lewis had good teammates?
Once again, you're just presenting data and numbers without context, you quasi-analyst.
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Updated Driver Ratings!
Made some tweaks in the formula and applied the following multipliers
Leclerc: 1.05x
Norris: 1.05x
Piastri: 1.05x
HAMILTON: 1.10x
Example: if Hamilton had a 8.0, with the multiplier he has a 8.8
I hope everyone is happy now!! (you probably won't still)
Formula Analyst@FormulAnalyst
My driver ratings for the start of the season Norris looks too low I am aware, I am still working on the formula
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@Racer48500 @thef1diplomat @michaelmasinot @F1BigData Dont end with 🤣😂
That just shows you need to add some spice to your words cause you are not secure with them
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@FormulAnalyst @thef1diplomat @michaelmasinot @F1BigData Oh wow look at this diehard personal max data analysis that no one asked about 🤣😂
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@arrowcol24 @DeltaData_ I'm on your side here but to be fair that doesn't really matter, because we are just comparing rookie seasons without putting expectations into play
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@DeltaData_ @FormulAnalyst max verstappen with 17 years vs ocon with 20 years 🤡🤡
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1º 🇫🇷 Ocon 2017 — (7,882)
2º 🇬🇧 Norris 2019 — (7,834)
3º 🇲🇨 Leclerc 2018 — (7,816)
4º 🇫🇷 Gasly 2018 — (7,675)
5º 🇬🇧 Bearman 2025 — (7,595)
6º 🇬🇧 Russell 2019 — (7,467)
7º 🇦🇺 Piastri 2023 — (7,372)
8º 🇳🇱 Verstappen 2015 — (7,289)
9º 🇪🇸 Sainz 2015 — (7,235)
10º 🇮🇹 Antonelli 2025 — (6,449)
Alberto@albertomuroo
Ordenad a estos 10 pilotos según su año rookie: 🇳🇱 Verstappen 2015 🇪🇸 Sainz 2015 🇫🇷 Ocon 2017 🇫🇷 Gasly 2018 🇲🇨 Leclerc 2018 🇬🇧 Russell 2019 🇬🇧 Norris 2019 🇦🇺 Piastri 2023 🇬🇧 Bearman 2025 🇮🇹 Antonelli 2025 Luego pongo yo mi top 10.
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@FormulAnalyst Our ratings say that Max put in some outstanding performances but also made more mistakes
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@effonecasualfan Yes, and the way he drove the 2010-13 Ferrari is the perfect example of agressive understeer
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@FormulAnalyst Have you seen some of the Ferraris and the Renaults he's tamed in the past?
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It's an RBPT issue, every driver has extensively talked about it.
Fanbases have a tendency to over exaggerate how good their favourite drivers are, or how bad the drivers they hate are.
Some geniuses are questioning Max Verstappen's "adaptability" even though he's had the car die on him in 33% of competitive sessions, even though he's essentially been the benchmark Red Bull driver everytime he's been on track.
It's an unfortunate nature of fan discourse where a driver that's going through a rough phase gets piled on unreasonably while the driver that's having a good run is hilariously gassed beyond what he's truly capable of,
An idle gaze at F1Twt in 2025 would make you think Max Verstappen could win in an Alpine and Lewis Hamilton is washed,
In 2026, it's seemingly flipped...
The reality is somewhere in the middle.... always
Delta Data@DeltaData_
Having analysed this situation in depth, I think I’ve been able to reach a conclusion. Verstappen has always been one of the drivers with the best starts; it’s impossible for a driver of his calibre to have three poor starts in a row due to his own mistakes. Furthermore, if you check his onboard, you can clearly see that the start itself is good and his reaction time is among the best, but suddenly the engine stops delivering power. It’s also a fault we’ve seen with several drivers in these races. Therefore, I’m certain we can say that this is more of a mechanical issue than a driving error, and if that’s the case, his weekend can only be described as really good.
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@effonecasualfan Yes you are probably correct
Let me just add that by having "every possible factor work in favour of the first driver" the car becomes faster than it would have been if it was more neutral for both, that's the whole explanation behind the "Max factor"
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It's not necessarily about expecting here,
It's a basic logical,
You put the talent of the century alongside a strong driver, he wins 70% of the time,
You put the talent of the century against a strong driver,.but have every possible factor work in favour of the first driver,
He wins every time
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@effonecasualfan 1 tenth in China is exactly Verstappen's historical average against his teammates of the past
Formula Analyst@FormulAnalyst
On the right are the average qualifying gaps between Verstappen and his teammates in each track of the 2026 F1 Calendar Gap to Hadjar: 0.128% Average gap in China: 0.146% Historically, Japan is still not the most dominant track for Max From Miami it's cooking time
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"Judging by the past, yes I think we can"
Max has had qualifying fumbles btw, even in 22/23
"For example, if Hadjar outqualifies Max in Japan, that is making all the headlines and producing chaos, cause it isn't expected at all"
He was within a tenth in China btw
And since it is the new car, it'll take some time to become "Max's car"
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@effonecasualfan Fair, but Alonso is at his nature an agressive understeery driver, that's much harder to make the team pivot towards
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"Maybe, but if Alonso was losing some qualifying sessions against Stroll when the car was at his best, that would mean Perez would take a lot of points from Alonso"
The record to Perez would be more or less same..
Just like Max, Alonso also wants every single resource within the team to work for him
And that holds true with how the car would be developed
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@effonecasualfan Because in F1 it's always normal that a driver is better one weekend, then he loses the next weekend... then he goes on a good run, then on a bad run...
but with Max that simply doesn't happen
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@effonecasualfan And that is because we expect Max to ALWAYS be at his best, and when he isn't it will always be a huge disappointment
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@effonecasualfan Maybe, but if Alonso was losing some qualifying sessions against Stroll when the car was at his best, that would mean Perez would take a lot of points from Alonso
And we don't know how competitive the Red Bull would be if it wasn't for the pointy front and Max handling it
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@FormulAnalyst Alonso driving the Red Bull would be much faster than the entire competition
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@effonecasualfan I agree with that, but we don't know if those weekends are Stroll being at his best or the car being more competitive than usual
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@FormulAnalyst sure, at the same time, we also discount some of the stuff Lance is capable of at his peak,
some of the stuff he does when his brain is not distracted by the pigeons on the trees is impressive,
he had a few of them in 23 as well
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@effonecasualfan This is not acceptable for a driver of Alonso's caliber
Formula Analyst@FormulAnalyst
@effonecasualfan The truth is that in the 5 best qualifying performances from Stroll (Jeddah, Australia, Spain, Austria and Brazil) Alonso was just 2-3 in H2H and only 0.044s faster on average That's 5 poles if Max is driving that car
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@FormulAnalyst I don't think he did much wrong in that season,
maybe Monaco I guess but other than that, there wasn't much on the table and the Red Bull was just too good
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@Roseista01 He only didn't win because Antonelli made him lose, direct or indirectly, around 50 points
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In fact, se demostró el año pasado que verstappen sin el mejor coche durante un año entero no puede ganar.
Max Argento 🇦🇷@MaxArgento33
Si Max Verstappen en el 2020 manejaba el Mercedes rosa, salía campeón del mundo.
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@effonecasualfan I love Alonso, he is in my opinion the 5th best driver of all time, but he fumbled more than he should in 2023, and he was still the 2nd best driver that season
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@effonecasualfan As in
Perez was 28-7 vs Stroll in qualy H2H
Verstappen was 81-9 vs Perez in qualy H2H
And the Racing Point was also owned by Lawrence Stroll
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