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Mark Gunderson ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ

@MdtShell

What has happened to this site? Married to the beautiful @adhdlibrary

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John Reasnor
John Reasnor@johnandrewwordsยท
Joe Rigney and @AmReformer are now in the business of baptizing threats of rape, murder, and genocide. Joe makes one argument from scripture and also highlights a story from Shakespeare as a sort of illustration of his point, though he is careful to acknowledge that Shakespeare isnโ€™t scripture. I wonโ€™t spend much time on Shakespeare because itโ€™sโ€ฆwellโ€ฆfiction. Still, itโ€™s worth noting that Henryโ€™s violent threats are sometimes read with moral irony rather than as a straightforward endorsement. Shakespeare isnโ€™t always so direct and shallow as simply endorsing every action because โ€œit works.โ€ Even so, this is not really Rigneyโ€™s argumentโ€”more of a literary illustration. Rigney then moves to Solomon and the story of the two women from 1 Kings 3:16โ€“28. His argument is that because Solomon threatened violence against a baby, it is therefore permissible for Trump to threaten the end of a civilization. This is far too simplistic. Once again, Rigney reads a text (this time scripture) sees a good consequence, and immediately ends the analysis. It is effectively a consequentialist and utilitarian approach to ethics that also ignores who these characters actually are. First, we donโ€™t know whether Solomon was being righteous in his threat. He does not appeal to Godโ€™s Law in his threatening, nor does the text actually justify the method. What we see in verse 28 is that the people recognized the wisdom of God in the justice carried out, which is not the same as God declaring the method itself just. Solomon is not one of the rare scriptural characters without failings. He later continues to rely on his own wisdom rather than the Torah, and it leads to his downfall. So we have here a possible descriptive/prescriptive error. Now, even if we grant that Solomon was just and righteous in his threat, does it follow that Trump is just and righteous in his? No. Of course not. If the position is that Solomon, being wise in the Lord, acted with wisdom in this particular story, it does not logically or ethically follow that all threats of violence (even toward a good end) are now justified. Solomon, if we recall, was not merely a man but a man given a special blessing of wisdom. In this scenario, he faces a judicial situation and uses a threat to determine the truth. This is not a threat to coerce a nation during a morally suspect military adventure, nor is it issued by a godless leader lacking any special gift of wisdom. You are not Solomon, and Donald J. Trump is not Solomon. Rigney acknowledges this tension but charges forward regardless. In his Trump/Solomon typology, he misunderstands the nature of wisdom. Wisdom is not law. This text is not prescribing, or even clearly justifying, violent threats. Wisdom does not allow us to cut and paste Solomonโ€™s situation and boldly declare that all threats of violence for a justified end are now permissible. And especially not while ignoring the highly relevant details of each specific ethical situation. Solomon could have been wise in his violent threats on Tuesday and very unwise on Thursday with more violent threats. At most we have a non-normative example of wisdom from a man whoโ€™s been specially given divine wisdom. Rigneyโ€™s argument proves far too much. Even if we believe Solomon made a permissible threat of violence, that does not mean that world leaders in 2026 can make a very different type of threat for very different reasons. Rigneyโ€™s argument justifies, quite literally, any and all violent and sinful threats. As long as the end goal is justified, according to Rigney, language is unbridled from ethical concern. His use of Shakespeare makes clear that this includes threats of rape. For Rigney, โ€œlegitimate political endsโ€ carves out a magical, morally neutral area of human life where you can say and threaten anything you like. As long as the goal is legitimate, anything goes. This is moral anarchy, godless autonomy, and theologically sloppy at best.
Joe Rigney@joe_rigney

Over at @AmReformer, I address Trumpโ€™s rhetoric around Iran (โ€œa whole civilization will dieโ€), asking whether such rhetoric is morally permissible (and answering with the help of Shakespeare and the Scriptures). americanreformer.org/2026/04/a-wholโ€ฆ

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@TheoManBabies And my understanding is he used his podcast to move into his head teaching position. Not sure if he did much shepherding but a podcast isn't prep for that.
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@TheoManBabies What bothered me the most was that the church had a media team way too large for the size of church. Like online content was being prioritized at the expense of volunteers. Two camera operators and, maybe, 200ish butts in seats felt like a volunteer burnout machine
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@BMcGrewvy That's not bricking because the old Kindles (I think I have one in that range) will still operate. They just won't receive updates and so won't be able to get new content wirelessly. I suspect non-DRM'd books could still be loaded on via USB.
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@jwsherrod We prosecute those who threaten the innocent, regardless of their willingness to follow through. Because the threat itself is harmful, and we don't want a world where such threats are normalized. He needs to be removed immediately.
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John William Sherrod
John William Sherrod@jwsherrodยท
I talked to some IRL Trump supporters today who had worried faces after reading his tweet, and I donโ€™t think they understood why I was smiling when it came up in conversation. I tried to calm them down and reminded them that you have to take Trump seriously, but not literally.
Will Chamberlain@willchamberlain

Iโ€™d like to thank everyone on the right who spazzed out and started talking about the 25th Amendment, you did a great job convincing the Iranians that Trump really was crazy and probably helped our negotiators

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TheChainsawDisciple
TheChainsawDisciple@TCSDiscipleยท
@not_our_guy Did he just take a screenshot of Lake Superior and use it as the basis of the fantasy cartography for his fanfic? Almost as unoriginal as shoehorning his ideology into it ๐Ÿ˜‚
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John William Sherrod
John William Sherrod@jwsherrodยท
@MdtShell I was smiling because I understand how Trump operates, so I understood there was no reason to actually take the apocalyptic interpretation of his Truth Social posts that many were coming away with.
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Neil Shenvi
Neil Shenvi@NeilShenviยท
What's a good Christian worldview curriculum for high schoolers?
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@greateststriker @HwsEleutheroi If (big if) CAHSR starts running, the trains aren't dropped in the Atlantic after one trip. Orion can be reused with refurbishment, but SLS's 4xRS-25 engines, originally resuable on the Shuttle, are dropped expended on each flight.
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