ProLifeIVF
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ProLifeIVF
@ProLifeIVF
Join the discussion on how to use IVF without sacrificing life!
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NBA great Carlos Boozer & his wife, Cece, used IVF to create 34 embryos in order to save their child, Carmani who had sickle cell.
Only 2 were selected: Duke basketball star twins Cameron & Cayden.
The rest of the children were disposed of, considered “undesireable” because they weren’t a match.
“I’m sure there’s a lot of people that think that’s wrong, but I don’t.”
- Cece Boozer
While fighting to save their son’s life, a great desire, they treated the children created through IVF, as expendable, “spare parts, raw material for others survival” - @J_K_Wood
I’m thankful for the health of Carmani, but when children are treated as a commodity, they’re not seen as human. They’re a means to an end, where we play God and decide who desires life and death.
That’s dystopian and evil.
🎥: @espn
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@shinychrome78 @lilbernadette @AlexNowrasteh The people at risk for excess have high AMH and/or use IVF under 35
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Only 9% of people think IVF is morally wrong. That's way too many.
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@ThemBeforeUs @Chase_a_saurus Location doesn’t impose morality
Why do you think it does?
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@ProLifeIVF @Chase_a_saurus Yes, we know that pretending making and discarding humans in labs is = to natural conception is your claim.
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@ProLifeIVF "But report it correctly.
She did create 34 embryos."
🤦♂️
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34 children were created.
32 were discarded for not being the right match.
2 were kept because they were useful.
This is just one reminder of what happens when children become products designed to meet adult needs.
Josh Wood@J_K_Wood
The Boozer’s son had sickle cell. They created 34 embryos via IVF to find a “Savior Baby.” 32 were discarded as undesirable or non-matches. 2 were selected, conceived to harvest their cord blood at birth. The media calls it miraculous. That miracle required a body count🧵
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@davemarney @charlescwcooke Most people transfer all their embryos in IVF
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@charlescwcooke IVF is just as bad as abortion, the unwanted embryos are destroyed just as if they aborted. Too bad so many people are unaware of this fact.
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@PGard0191 @FarmGirlCarrie It’s not even that. IVF tends to be the most extreme cases of infertility. Not primarily people who simply put of childbearing
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@FarmGirlCarrie It's not that they took the pill. It is because so many put off having children in their most-fertile years.
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@FarmGirlCarrie The pill doesn’t cause infertility. IVF is becoming more accessible but it’s still a minority treatment in the infertility world
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@lilbernadette @AlexNowrasteh You don’t have to discard to use IVF. Most people don’t
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@AlexNowrasteh Well if life begins at conception and you discard some human beings, it is clearly wrong.
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@AlexNowrasteh It’s about the same percentage that are flat earthers.
10% is pretty typical for fringey conspiracy crowds
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@KirkWilcox Destroying embryos isn’t required in IVF. Most people transfer all their embryos
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You can have children, but only through a process which requires you to dispose of embryos, and some people treat the disposal of those embryos as morally equivalent to drowning a classroom full of kindergartners
Jon Root@JonnyRoot_
NBA great Carlos Boozer & his wife, Cece, used IVF to create 34 embryos in order to save their child, Carmani who had sickle cell. Only 2 were selected: Duke basketball star twins Cameron & Cayden. The rest of the children were disposed of, considered “undesireable” because they weren’t a match. “I’m sure there’s a lot of people that think that’s wrong, but I don’t.” - Cece Boozer While fighting to save their son’s life, a great desire, they treated the children created through IVF, as expendable, “spare parts, raw material for others survival” - @J_K_Wood I’m thankful for the health of Carmani, but when children are treated as a commodity, they’re not seen as human. They’re a means to an end, where we play God and decide who desires life and death. That’s dystopian and evil. 🎥: @espn
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@Lus_Headbanged @kirakirahonu She is typical. Excess embryos is atypical
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People like you are in the 5% of the industry that have any right right to claim an ethical use of the technology.
You're right, I was lumping in surrogacy in general for the sealing part.
The rest of the industry is fueled entirely by the commoditization of human life and the active destruction of the family.
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There is no doctrine on when a soul is attached to cells
We don't actually know life begins at conception, it's just an anti-abortion reactionary belief
I know this is a super hot take, but I'm pro-IVF and extremely anti-abortion and I think we should rely on God for doctrine
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@Lus_Headbanged The flash doesn’t happen at fertilization.
It only happens in the lab if chemicals are added to see zinc increases at fertilization.
Most ppl transfer all their embryos in IVF
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There is a flash of light that occurs at the moment of conception that no one even hypothesized could happen.
That's enough for me.
I get why you would think it's good but I am highly opposed to IVF because 95% of the industry is designed for rich or gay couples to buy designer children and surrogate wombs to grow them in. Also IVF egg harvesting accelerates the timeline for a woman's natural infertility and ends with the destruction of many of those eggs after fertilization.
Also, imagine a soul is given a body, only for it to be halted and frozen for 30 years before it is either destroyed or implanted.
ALSO, the mistakes from these practices lead to other couples children being born to the "wrong" parents...
Also, you need special permission from the first presidency to get sealed to IVF children. Which indicates it's not a desirable practice.
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What is his cellular age? Like, people aim for life hacks to age down. This kid was literally 30 at birth.
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Baby Thaddeus was conceived in a lab in 1994. His biological mom kept him frozen for 30 years - saving him for later. She then placed him for embryo adoption, and he was finally born in July. It is a miracle he survived. 93% of babies created in IVF are never born - frozen indefinitely, experimented on, miscarried, or destroyed. Thaddeus' life is a gift, but no baby should have to go through what he did. We must ban IVF.
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@DontPanic404 @SpeechThee @PTBwrites It doesn’t do that either.
Testing doesn’t tell you conditions of children that can develop. It’s a snapshot in time on how the cells are developing. It’s used to show if mutations are too severe to survive or not.
You are still recommended to use NIPT after PGT
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@SpeechThee @PTBwrites Technically it doesn’t eliminate the risk, it eliminates the children with Down syndrome, etc. The technology doesn’t allow picking of the sperm and egg to avoid genetic issues; you have to create the embryos, test them, and then the ones that are “undesirable” get killed.
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Nearly one in 10 babies born in San Francisco were born via in vitro fertilization (nationally, the share is around 2%)
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@SpeechThee @PTBwrites It didn’t. PGTA is non diagnostic.
You can have mutations after testing. It only says if an embryo is too mutated to survive or not.
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@PTBwrites IVF allows for PGT which essentially eliminates the risk of Downs and other trisomy. Worth it for older moms
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@CommandoSense2 @DSPetolicchio If children could be cryogenically frozen to give them better chances of survival (for which it does embryos) then yes, that would be ok.
You don’t comfort your child in utero when they’re upset. It’s ok to treat them differently at different stages bc of what’s possible
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@ProLifeIVF @DSPetolicchio Your account name uses the term “IVF”, but it sounds like you don’t know much about how the embryos are treated. What if we froze born children like embryos? Would that be okay?
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@RachelKloess @Chase_a_saurus No one needs glasses or prosthetics.
Ease of movement isn’t a right.
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@Chase_a_saurus Nobody “has to go through IVF.” Children are not a right. We speak about these things as though we don’t have a choice so we don’t have to deal with the difficult bits.
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Good hell people don’t understand IVF. 34 eggs retrieved. 10 fertilized. 2 matched. Even if 10 fertilized, only 2 may survive. They don’t specify that and it’s honestly not anyone’s
business. They didn’t “discard” 32 lives you dumb uneducated fucks.
Start looking at it like the medical miracle it is instead of “playing god”. I guarantee if you had to go through IVF your view would be COMPLETELY different. But instead you push your incorrect information to fit your narrative. Educate yourself just slightly so you don’t look so dumb to those that actually know the process and what it entails.
Josh Wood@J_K_Wood
The Boozer’s son had sickle cell. They created 34 embryos via IVF to find a “Savior Baby.” 32 were discarded as undesirable or non-matches. 2 were selected, conceived to harvest their cord blood at birth. The media calls it miraculous. That miracle required a body count🧵
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@leejiminezhun @JonnyRoot_ @Outkick The didn’t create 34 embryos and this isn’t typical IVF use.
PGT-M
Accounts for 2-6% of IVF use and this is a subset of that
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@JonnyRoot_ @Outkick IVF is not wonderful. It is only wonderful when it is governed by God's principles. Creating 34 embryos and destroying 32 is wicked.
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The way Carlos Boozer and his wife Cece used IVF to help create their twins who now play at Duke & treat their first child who was fighting sickle cell, has sparked a pro-life debate.
My latest for @outkick: outkick.com/sports/birth-d…
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