TradCathGroyper

@FinnishZoomer No anathemas, no binding dogmatic declarations. Lateran IV differs on your last point.

“We decided moreover that all that has been established synodally is to be religiously observed by all the faithful, for the glory of God and the dignity of the Church and for the tranquillity and peace of all men. We have approved and established these things, decreeing that the present letters are and remain stable and valid, and are to have legal effectiveness, so that they be disseminated and obtain full and complete effect, and so that they may be fully convalidated by those whom they concern or may concern now and in the future; and so that, as it be judged and described, all efforts contrary to these things by whomever or whatever authority, knowingly or in ignorance be invalid and worthless from now on.” Also suppressing false religions by the state is not mandated you can read this from Suarez or Van Noort

Its a sin against the 4th commandment to betray your country

@TheMaronite Out of all of these, I've only ever visited New York. I can think of many cities that I have visited, both in and out of the USA, which are nicer than New York.

6-Rome 7- New York 8- Rio de Janeiro 9- Tokyo 10- Santiago de Chile

Paris over any city in the entire world.

@FinnishZoomer Suppressing violations of the "right" to religious freedom is totally different from suppressing false religions. Paul VI did not invoke his apostolic authority to declare any binding dogma from the Council.

@TrCGroyper The acts of V2 say you can suppress violations of the right by state power but theres SSPX didn’t tell you that sadly. And it is a binding document see apostolic brief by St Paul VI “In Spiritu Sancto”. Brudda its time to hit the books on ecclesiology and not talk nonsense.

@FinnishZoomer It is not binding dogma and you contradict it by saying that the suppression of false religions may occur, a position which the document refutes.

@TrCGroyper Theres no dogma that mandates the punishment of heretics by the state so idk what your lateran point was. And you’re still bound to accept Dignitatis humanae. Also you can suppress false religions but theres no absolute demand to do so especially in the modern world.

@FinnishZoomer I am speaking of dogma. "But the death of the soul is worse than freedom of error,' as Augustine was wont to say. When all restraints are removed by which men are kept on the narrow path of truth, their nature, which is already inclined to evil, propels them to ruin."-Gregory XVI

Niggèr because disciplines of V2 are also under whims of the pope. Canon 24 talks about the election of pastors but guess what thats not in effect anymore because the popes got rid of those. If you go to the early councils they have even more insane canons that shouldn’t be followed and all yes they are still valid councils you just don’t know the difference between dogma and discipline.

@Entick_ @BrutusCicero @TaylorRMarshall What is your point?

@TrCGroyper @BrutusCicero @TaylorRMarshall So was hasan piker

Did Bishop Barron just become the Catholic court-theologian of President Donald Trump? Every King Louis XIII needs his Cardinal Richelieu.

@Entick_ @BrutusCicero @TaylorRMarshall So? He was born in the United States.

@TrCGroyper @BrutusCicero @TaylorRMarshall His mother is French and his father is Italian.

@FinnishZoomer There were many at the time, but no longer, because your secular and Protestant allies won. Also, Church council is still legitimate, and you started by citing Vatican II. Why can you reference that council but I cannot reference Lateran IV?

@TrCGroyper You dont have even one catholic country where you could turn those people over plus Laterans disciplinary teaching is under the authority of the Popes and they can do with it how they please. What you should be talking about is Leo X Exsurge Domine.

@FinnishZoomer "We condemn all heretics, whatever names they may go under...Let those condemned be handed over to the secular authorities present, or to their bailiffs, for due punishment."-Fourth Council of Lateran

@TrCGroyper The “church has defected” people are starting to get infuriating

@FinnishZoomer No one has the right to choose a false religion. Vatican II was not a dogmatic council and cannot override Sacred Scripture and 1,900 years of Catholic teaching.

@TrCGroyper Sorry tradchud but we live in the Dignitatis Humanae era

@FinnishZoomer Integralism is Catholicism. The opposite is indifferentism, which is nothing more than soft atheism. papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9syll.…

@TrCGroyper Thats just because you are a integralist

@FinnishZoomer I think you're a fraud.

@TrCGroyper Yes

@FinnishZoomer Are you sure you're Catholic?

@TrCGroyper Prot states have a right to defend themselves against catholic aggression also no undermining happened

@BrutusCicero @TaylorRMarshall What are you talking about? Leo XIV is not from France.

@TrCGroyper @TaylorRMarshall Like George Basil too during the Falklands War, "our instincts as a conference of bishops should be patriotic methinks", since clerics inc bishops if not cardinals still do have obligations to their own patria of birthplace and family origin. For Leo XIV that might be France?

@huzai994 @HPWorthington @_mafia_110 @VivekGRamaswamy Different Indians, obviously.

@HPWorthington @_mafia_110 @VivekGRamaswamy Actually only Indians are real Americans

You can travel to Italy, but you’ll never be an Italian. You can travel to France but you’ll never be a Frenchman. You can live in Germany but you’ll never be a German. You can pack your bags and live the rest of your life in China or Japan, but you’ll never be Chinese or Japanese. Yet you can come from any one of those countries to the United States of America, and you can still be an American – so long as you work hard, you play by the rules, you make your contributions, wait your turn, pledge allegiance to the flag, and obtain your citizenship.

@Billy75Williams @TraciThompson70 @RealCandaceO Now you sound like the leftist.

@TrCGroyper @TraciThompson70 @RealCandaceO Native Americans? What hypocrisy lol

The IDF has confirmed this is real. Which commentators will reliably lecture us about Judeo-Christian values on Monday?

@loughnane_kevin @TaylorRMarshall It does more. It actually carries out terror and violence. Nearly everyone in the world-including both Christians and Muslims-hates Jews. The real question is, are you a dirty Jew?

@TrCGroyper @TaylorRMarshall And does Israel have a flag it regularly stamps on and declares death to that state every single day? Does it have terrorist “arms” that attacks other states in its name? Better question- are you a dirty Muslim?

@loughnane_kevin @TaylorRMarshall There is a state in the Middle East that routinely terrorizes its neighbors, kills thousands, supports foreign terrorist organizations, controls American politics, and has a secret illegal nuclear weapons program. It’s not Iran.

@TaylorRMarshall No. Anyone who’s been paying attention to international politics for the last 50 years don’t need anyone to tell them if our war with Iran is legitimate. The wiser of us already know if Trump fails here, we’ve got a nuclear armed Iran and a nuclear armed race.

@Ghost_Groyper @TaylorRMarshall By all appearances, the man is addicted to power and attention. He has no principles.

@TaylorRMarshall It’s interesting how Bishop Barron didn’t even address the berating and disrespect Trump threw at the Pope. Instead, blamed the division on the media.