Bob

@CaptainCurts @GibbsInForSix Oh, so now it was the correct call, but you don't like it. You played house hockey and still didn't see the ice. Grow up and don't vote.

@VthTake @GibbsInForSix Interpretation/implementation of the rule is misused. You’re too obtuse to even begin to grasp the concept. If you think giving officials the judgement of how bad a penalty impacted a player is a good thing you’ve never played the game and should stop handing out opinions on it

Someone explain how matching minors can be both roughing and embellishment. Either someone roughed or didn’t. It can’t fucking be both

@CaptainCurts @GibbsInForSix Yeah, they're both a crime. They're both getting charged for it. The rule you sent clearly states "attempts to draw a penalty" with no mention of another penalty being called. You're arguing a point proven wrong by the very fact that it happened. Turn your fucking brain on.

@VthTake @GibbsInForSix Your metaphor would be more applicable to the severity of the penalty because the thief is still getting arrested for a crime. I already sent you the highlighted rule. You are choosing to ignore it. Move on Bob

@CaptainCurts @GibbsInForSix If i steal $5 from you, it's theft. If you file a report saying i stole $100,000 in an effort to get the police to take it more seriously, it's a false report. Both occurred. Both are a crime. Both are punished. Also, still waiting for you to highlight the rule...

@VthTake @GibbsInForSix It isn’t attempted murder if the victim dies. Have a good one Bobby 😂

@CaptainCurts @GibbsInForSix Sure you can, as I've already explained, and as evidenced by the call. So, for a second time, highlight where the rule says an embellishment penalty cannot be called if a penalty is already being called.

@VthTake @GibbsInForSix You can’t be “attempting” to draw a penalty if one is being called.

@CaptainCurts @GibbsInForSix OK, highlight the part that said you can't be given an embellishment penalty if a penalty is already being called.

@VthTake @GibbsInForSix I’m guessing your reading comprehension is below average Bob

I'll say this, you can't find a person more critical of officials than me, I guarantee it. But, the fact that @ESPNRefNHL gets on here every day and spars with the common folk deserves immense recognition.

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ OK.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ No, that is not wrong lol

Look im new to baseball but have been playing MLB the show career mode I find it insane that if you get to 1st base on an error you get no hit, no on base credit, just an 0 for 1 The ball hit off my bat and im on 1st base. Thats a valid hit to me idk

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Wrong. Completely, factually wrong. That's literally what statistics is. It's a prediction of an outcome. It does not matter how many events are included. If the odds are the same for one thing occurring or 1000 things occurring collectively, then the likelihood is the same.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ It’s significantly easier to predict what will happen on a singular ball put in play than it is to predict what will happen in an entire game

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Alright, well this has been fun.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ That’s not my point at all. You are talking about a whole game, not a single play. Which is why it’s different. Also throwing the ball away is not a defensive mistake, and they didn’t even attempt a shot in that scenario. Just more reasons why the direct comparison is dumb

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Does one matter more?

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ I didn’t say one matters more, I said they are not the same thing

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ But, throwing the ball into the stands is a single bad mistake. Do we not call errors in baseball if there were other mistakes made during the game?

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Which means they have both performed actions that helped and hurt their teams. Which is why it’s not the same as a singular bad mistake

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Why would a single action matter more than a culmination of actions when the likelihood they occur is statistically identical?

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Because it was a single action, and because it doesn’t include hundreds of other actions that could have been good or bad

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ OK, fair. Both offenses and defenses have been statistically identical. Their team has any forced advantage in the game whatsoever.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ How have they both played perfectly if they’ve both allowed points? A team that played perfectly would score on every possession and not allow their opponent to score on any possession

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Because it was a single, unlikely, individual error?

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ I care about the likelihood of an individual action that is bad. Not hundreds of consecutive actions that could be good or bad

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ OK, so you don't care about the statistical likelihood of the error occurring?

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ The odds being similar does not automatically mean the situations that produce those odds are similar

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ The likelihood of them occurring is identical. The likelihood an error occurs is why you think it should matter. So, they're identical when comparing their likelihood of occurrence, which is the entire point you're making.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Bridge the gap, not act like they are identical lol

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Correct, which is why we have statistics to bridge the gap between two non-identical things.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Theirs not identical situations

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Math is dumb. Got it.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Dumb to compare the likelihood of 1 single action to the likelihood of a series of hundreds or thousands of actions

@ChocoIateDaddy @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ Why? They're statistically identical. They both have exactly the same chance of happening.

@VthTake @EdReedMachine20 @chaserobertsonn @RonStewart_ It makes perfect sense to classify the most blatantly obvious individual errors as mistakes. It doesn’t make sense to discredit an underdog winning