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@TheAhmadOsman True. You can create all of the agentic loops and harnesses you want, but for most, it still won’t beat a good programmer in VS code with a single agent. It’s either overthinking or a lack of focus for most

The best products are the products that do one thing and do it extremely well Vibe coding leads to the opposite Don’t fall for that trap

@hibra_ai @GaelBreton True. People had access to it for 3 days. Also, I don’t think they realize how much it would actually cost once it’s API only, 50 dollars /m output tokens is outrageous. One decent prompt you’re using that up.

@GaelBreton Fable isn’t even that good. It’s just better than Opus, but the rest is all hype. It consumes limits and tokens like a bitch. Sure, it’s pretty good, but come on, all this hype for what? You’re just experiencing withdrawal.

I feel like Anthropic broke the AI industry. Fable is so powerful that no competitor has an answer, so they don't release anything. Fable is banned because it's so powerful, so even if competitors have an answer, they want to see how it plays out first. We're basically in a stalemate. Nothing will happen until this is resolved, one way or another.

@RippyDave @gmoneyNFT hahaha

@gmoneyNFT real shit, they can't hire one conservative comms person?

Can anthropic fucking figure their shit out with the govt already so we can get fable back? Wtf guys this should’ve been handled over the weekend

@ChrisUniverse I feel like there is no model on earth that will solve a skill issue

@sysang3l Just absolute nonsense lmao

Everyone that is saying Fable 5 was SO good in their ~72 hours of testing (if you sat up for 3 days straight) are the same exact people that if a newer model came out after… would say Fable 5 was so bad and they hate it 🤣 You guys make me crack up bruh We are far beyond simple ‘chat’ models! If you aren't using these models to build dope shit, you're really missing out. I never said Fable 5 was bad, I am saying you can still do tons of GREAT work with both GPT 5.5 & Opus 4.6 through 4.8. Even sonnet 4.6 is so good for tool use

Yeah, I think a lot of it is hype which clearly the poster here fell for lol. People still caught up on Fable 5 when you can go to OpenRouter right now and use a fusion of open source models cheaper and more powerful. Run it through Hermes and it’s not even close Once cheaper hardware is out it will be over for some of these giants, no way you can justify 50 dollars per /m output tokens. I think a lot of non engineers drive the discourse online about AI

@sysang3l @TheAhmadOsman Exactly. Models in a couple of years may not even be based on the transformer architecture; gpu stuff rn is crazy inefficient and AI researchers are looking for ways to get intelligence without the costs we have rn. Makes me wonder how fast these big companies will crumble.

Prediction Fable 5 equivalent in Opensource is ~8 months away

Introducing the Fusion API, the smartest compound model in the market. Fusion achieves Fable-level intelligence at half the price. How it works 👇

@ZainStrikes_ @TheAhmadOsman There will be cheaper ways to run, more integrated memory into chips. This is the future of chip development. AMD will probably be the budget option. No way to know for sure but that’s my take

@TheAhmadOsman Will we not have cheaper GPUs as architecture catches up to LLMs? Or will they stifle development to keep siphoning our money off?

@henokcrypto Fable 5 is not AGI Anyone saying otherwise has no clue what they’re talking about

Fable 5 is AGI Anyone saying otherwise has no clue what they’re talking about

@jun_song I loaded Kimi K2.7 Code into Hermes and it is awesome, I’ve had a better time than with Opus 4.8.

After my agent testing, seems like Kimi-K2.7 is better than Opus-4.8. It is closer to Fable level. My recent impression : Fable > Kimi-2.7 > Opus-4.8 = GLM-5.2 > GPT5.5 > Minimax-M3

@HubrisnxsBrian @Tacitus535 @AlexFinn Yeah, also, China makes them open source on purpose to make American industry less profitable. Privatizing is against their interest

@Tacitus535 @AlexFinn China doesn't have one of their companies at the top of pile, and if they did, they'd not make the weights public. The CCP needs to have control over anything that is within their country, and nobody can control these models. Not without interpretability

If Fable 5 remains America only, it will lead to the largest exodus from Europe in history Anyone who used Fable in the 3 days it was live knows it's the most powerful technology made in the history of our species They know that those with Fable will have unlimited economic power. Those without Fable will be fighting with two hands tied behind their back and their legs frozen in a block of ice Without Fable how could you keep up with someone who has it? How could you beat someone who can build products 50x faster than you. It’s technological steroids. It’s like De’Aaron Fox playing basketball against Michael Jordan. It’s no competition In time Europe will realize all of this regulation was a mistake. They’ll do a massive deal with America to get access. Multi hundreds of billions of dollars How could the current path go any other way? Fable 5 is the greatest leverage a nation has ever had. The beginning of technological government intervention has only begun

@AlexFinn more models will come out, better then Fable 5. We’re just getting started, the outcome of the lawsuit Anthropic filed hasn’t even been decided yet. Stop projecting these scenarios, it’s dumb

This is a great article for anyone interested

@TheAhmadOsman This is a great article!

@NathanS64855891 @mattshumer_ Not true. The US just prohibited foreign nationals from using it. Also, maybe don’t fear monger constantly about the impending doom of AI fucking everyone over and this wouldn’t happen.

@mattshumer_ Fable provoking such an extreme response from the government likely means no model more powerful than Fable/Mythos will ever be allowed for release since the case for a ban would only be stronger. This is it. I expected an S-curve eventually but not like this. Sad day.

Assuming Anthropic is able to restore Fable in the next few days, there's literally zero point doing any meaningful work until it is back. What can be done in 100 hours with Opus can be done in 1 with Fable. Hopefully this is figured out quickly.

@RZ0224 @mattshumer_ people are so dramatic. It makes sense this has been discussed online but like. I think you’ll be fine. The algorithm that does everything for you being a little bit worse won’t kill you. Maybe take this opportunity to learn something new. Also, it was out for what, 3 days?

This is such an exaggeration, while it is the best model I’ve used, it’s not by the landslide you’re saying. Code quality and task adherence is great, however no where near 100x of opus, plus the churning time is significantly longer. Learning how to use smaller models to produce same quality result will be a skill in and of itself in the next few months and one anyone seriously working with AI for any use case should be striving for. The mindset of just waiting for the next model to solve it or do it better is not the approach people should be taking.

hahahaha genius

@IanLandsman hahahaha this is hilarious

My Fable 5 access is back!

Claude Fable 5でどこまで表現できるのか、あえて難しいお題を投げてみた。 インクが流体みたいに溶け合う演出。 これは厳しいかなと思って限界を見にいったんだけど、普通に形になってしまった。 デザイン表現力もかなりすごい。 実際にこちらで遊べます👇 suminagashi-fjdbyyqi.manus.space