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@manchasbellas Toda la cornisa cantábrica en general, junto a los catalanes, acusa una ignorancia geográfica y paisajística sobre España bastante vergonzante.
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@pmklose @elisadelanuez Aquí y en todas partes. La gente se piensa que hemos nacido ayer y que no existe tal cosa como el sesgo de selección.
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Pau Marí-Klose
Pau Marí-Klose@pmklose·
@elisadelanuez La presentación de cualquier dato aquí siempre lleva agenda. Ninguno se selecciona al azar y de manera pura y desprejuiciada, por muy informativo que sea. Esa agenda puede reflejar valores, orientaciones ideológicas, motivaciones de autopromoción o búsqueda de reconocimiento.
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@fernandoortizcr @Castiradio A mí el paso de los años me ha demostrado que la gente que dice "X es un secarral" no conoce, no ha estado en los sitios a los que se refiere. Pasó una vez por allí un mes de julio y se quedó con esa imagen. Gente con una sensibilidad paisajística de instituto.
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Fernando Ortiz
Fernando Ortiz@fernandoortizcr·
@091500_1 @Castiradio Es preciosa, algunos nos tachan de secarral a Extremadura porque se piensan que el paisaje típico más allá de la Dehesa es la llanura pacense. No saben lo que hay en el norte de Cáceres.
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@ijongho05414821 @_4lex_4 @StevenGlinert Food stamps were prevalent in Spain until 1958, almost twenty years after the Civil War. The country was devastated, one of the poorest places in Europe, closed and autarchic. Suggesting that Spain benefited from the post-war windfall is, frankly, as ignorant as it gets.
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Glinert 🇺🇸 🏭
Glinert 🇺🇸 🏭@StevenGlinert·
This is always such a weird midwit take. Spain looks richer today, but South Korea’s economy actual compounds: manufacturing, R&D, high-tech physical assets, etc. Spain’s economy is services, housing, tourism, etc. Spain has 0 productivity growth per worker. Few R&D workers per capita. Very little capital formation/gdp. It’s just a wasting economy.
David Sun@arcticinstincts

A perfect Thursday in Korea (same GDP as Spain) as a 37 year old man: 7:30am- Wake up hungover from soju 8:00- Filially bring mom breakfast in bed 8:30- Take two trains to a ₩1350k/month stressful job delivering packages for Coupang 12:30 - 30 min lunch break 13:30 - Receive a call that your eye widening plastic surgery appointment is setup for next week 14:00 - Buy scalped Blackpink concert tickets for ₩170k, complain it used to be ₩80k 15:00 - Vape and froyo break 15:30 - Read news that Kim Jung Un is testing missiles again 16:30 - Join protest against recently elected chaebol financed president who is under control of a shaman (again) 20:00 - Coupang senior manager forces you to go drinking with him and colleagues though you hate it 22:00 - Drunkily hit on nosejobbed Korean girl at the next noraebang booth. She says she is 4B, hates all men, refuses to have kids, and makes a 🤏 gesture at you 00:00 - Release your Korean rage (Han) at the eternal injustices of the world by fistfighting another korean dude outside the bar 01:00 - Read Arcticism theory memes on X, nod and chuckle 02:00am- Pass by elementary school kids leaving their midnight Kumon math cram schools as you walk home to sleep Life in Korea is simply paradise

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@Fer_1974_ @LordoLordor En eso último estamos de acuerdo. Para mí la paradoja demográfica de Asturias solo sirve como contraargumento al "la única solución es construir porque llega gente". Como dices, es un problema multifactorial.
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@091500_1 @LordoLordor Sube porque entre 2008 y 2014 bajó un 40%, y con una inflación elevada tocaba rebotar. El precio de la vivienda es multifactorial, no se mueve por un solo input
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Lordo
Lordo@LordoLordor·
No es evidente toda vez que, por ejemplo en Asturias la población sigue exactamente igual y los precios subieron de forma salvaje
Mustang@kamilmustang

@LordoLordor Es exactamente igual de evidente, si no más, que la entrada de millones de nuevos habitantes ha presionado al alza el precio de la vivienda. Pero desde el fanatismo se afirmará que no tiene impacto.

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@Castiradio La provincia de Cáceres es una locura de húmeda y de bonita. Muy muy infravalorada en este país.
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Juan Fernández ♖
Juan Fernández ♖@Castiradio·
-también me acuerdo de una vez que una de Zaragoza, que cuando le dije que era de Ávila, la tildó de secarral -lo que llueve en Cáceres y lo poco que se dice, los tres años que pasé allí fueron una cosa
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@atalaveraEcon Yo creo que quien tiene la reputación seriamente comprometida son los países "frugales", que en pleno estancamiento económico tienen que recurrir a estos discursitos de nuevo para apuntarse tantos.
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Ángel Talavera@atalaveraEcon·
No quiero opinar sin saber qué versión es cierta. Pero la mujer del César, además de ser honesta, debe parecerlo. Y lo que está claro es que el daño reputacional ya está hecho y a España le va a costar mucho reparar su imagen, sobre todo en debates sobre la deuda europea común.
Geoffrey Smith@Geoffreytsmith

Pedro Sanchez just set the cause of the safe euro asset back by a few years... Spain’s alleged misuse of post-Covid funds sparks fury in frugal northern EU politico.eu/article/frugal…

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@lugaricano "Si la gente me diera la razón en todo lo que propongo, la calidad del debate público mejoraría enormemente".
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Luis Garicano 🇪🇺🇺🇦
The analysis is impeccable. If those writing on Spain for the foreign press read and understood these simple paragraphs, the quality of the dialogue on the country would improve enormously.
pablo@pablogguz_

spain needs a different growth model. in the last 30 years, real household disposable income per capita has grown by roughly 38% in real terms (around €5.7k per person at 2024 prices). this can be decomposed into growth in net labour income per capita (+16.7 pp), cash benefits such as pensions (+14.2 pp), and capital and self-employment income per capita (+7.2 pp). however, the labour contribution came entirely from the extensive margin (pulling more people into employment) rather than from higher real wages per worker. in fact, the average spanish employee takes home slightly less in real terms today than in 1995! going forward, this model is unlikely to keep working. the extensive-margin gains came from two channels, both of which leaned on favourable conditions that are (most likely) not going to repeat. the first is that the working-age population grew faster than the total population during the 90s and 2000s, mainly because of the favourable age structure left behind by spain's baby boom (the large cohorts born in the 1960s and 1970s moved into prime working age while the cohorts behind them were smaller), but also because of immigration waves that were disproportionately working-age. this is what demographers often call a demographic dividend, which lifts the employment-to-population ratio purely by composition (even with no change in how much any given working-age person works). the second channel is that, within the working-age population, the employment rate rose substantially, from below 50% in the mid-1990s to around two-thirds today. of course, none of this is bad, but there is only so much further either channel can go. the demographic dividend is already reversing: the baby boom cohorts are now moving into retirement, the cohorts replacing them are much smaller, and ageing will push the working-age share of the population down. the employment rate itself is approaching a natural ceiling -- there is still a gap relative to the average advanced european economy but it is not large, and closing it would only buy spain a few more years of compositional growth. immigration, often raised as the way out, cannot realistically offset the demographic drag ahead. the scale of net inflows required to offset ageing on a sustained basis is multiples of any plausible figure consistent with social and political constraints in european countries, and even if such flows materialised, immigrants themselves age and accrue the same retirement pension entitlements as natives. in other words, sustaining the current demographic structure would require a permanent inflow large enough to offset both the ageing of the native population and that of past migrant cohorts, indefinitely. fertility, however, is now falling across virtually every region of the world, and the global working-age population is projected to peak within a few decades and then decline. there is simply no migrant pool waiting to be drawn from on the scale spain would need. this is also why cash benefits cannot keep doing what they have been doing. it is worth being explicit about why retirement pensions, specifically, are at the centre of all this. spain runs a defined-benefit, pay-as-you-go public pension system: pensions are not the actuarial outcome of what each worker contributed, but a function of years contributed and final wages, paid out of the contributions of those currently working. the current system promises retirees an internal rate of return on their contributions that is significantly higher than anything the payments into the system can plausibly grow at. and because the payments into the system are, mechanically, the number of contributors times the average wage on which they contribute, a gap of that kind is sustainable only as long as the contributing base keeps expanding fast enough relative to the receiving one. the same demographic dynamics that enabled the extensive-margin growth of the last three decades are what allowed this to (sort of) work, but these are now reversing. on top of that, the system already runs a structural deficit: only about three-quarters of contributory pension expenditure is covered by social contributions, and the rest is financed out of general taxation paid by the entire population. and pensions are not an independent source of household income. they are funded by taxes, and taxes have to be levied on income generated somewhere in the economy. in spain, as in any developed country, that income is overwhelmingly the wage bill: personal income tax and social contributions on labour. so the real question is whether labour income per worker is growing. gross compensation per worker (including social security contributions) has in fact risen slightly in real terms since 1995, by around 5%. but the entire gain (and a little more) has been absorbed by a widening fiscal wedge, so that the take-home wage is marginally lower today than it was thirty years ago. in other words, the modest productivity gains the spanish economy has managed to deliver have not reached workers. they have been routed, in their entirety, into financing the rising weight of transfers. one could argue, of course, that if wages eventually start growing, the additional income can simply be taxed away to keep financing rising benefits. but that is just another way of saying that the take-home pay of the average spanish worker is supposed to stay flat for the foreseeable future, and that whatever productivity gains eventually arrive will be routed straight through to retirees. i will leave it to the reader to judge what kind of social contract that describes. thirty years of stagnant wages is already a long experiment in that direction. either policymakers start taking productivity growth seriously or the bill comes due on a model that was always going to run out of room.

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@fjmpiq @pmklose Pero esa es la cuantía máxima. Asumes que se puede "vivir" solo en España con eso. Si hay conviventes con ingresos se reduce. Las no contributivas están baremadas y se revisan.
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Pau Marí-Klose@pmklose·
1) Algunos son personas ya jubiladas, "reunificados" por hijos, sin pensión española 2) Otros, residentes comunitarios q se retiran aquí con su pensión de origen 3) Y están lo que tendrían que cotizar 15 años (no 10 años!), cosa difícil para mayores de 54 x.com/lugaricano/sta…
Luis Garicano 🇪🇺🇺🇦@lugaricano

560,000 inmigrantes de más de 54 años. Cotizarán 10 años, cobrarán 20. Y se suman a la generación del baby boom, la más numerosa. Entran en una España con la inversión publica en mínimos. El diseño de políticas más irresponsables que cabe imaginar. (Texto @jgjorrin)

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特にない@_tokuninai·
desde que se lo leí a Garicano no puedo parar de pensar que verdaderamente es cierto que en EEUU las zonas posh de las ciudades son el extrarradio y no el centro ¿por qué? ¿es sólo por los negros o hay algo más?
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@LordoLordor Excluyendo los partidos y los consejos, ¿en qué profesiones hay cuotas exigidas por ley? Hay más profesionales sanitarias o educativas mujeres porque están más interesadas en esas profesiones, ¿no?
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Lordo@LordoLordor·
Yo creo que tiene toda la razón pero la cuestión estará en futuros no demasiado hipotéticos en los que hubiera que poner cuota de chicos, en profesorado desde luego pero quizás en medicina y derecho
Hora 25@Hora25

🗣️ @kanciller, sobre las cuotas en política: "Puede generar efectos positivos pese a lo que digan los liberales. Las cuotas no están reñidas con la calidad" "La mujer tiene el mismo derecho que el hombre a ser mediocre" 🔊 cadenaser.com/cadena-ser/hor…

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@fjmpiq @pmklose Trabajar diez años superados los 50 años para cobrar 500€ el resto de su vida en un país "caro"… Hombre. El plan del siglo no parece tampoco.
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Olof 🏗️@fjmpiq·
@pmklose El incentivo parece claro, ¿no? Tienes 50 y pocos años, algún hijo en España, te vas a vivir con él, trabajas unos años, te jubilas y seguramente vas a vivir mejor que en tu país. Dudo que nadie se venga vivir solo con esa pensión, claro, no te daría para pagarte un techo.
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@ys281097 Hay viviendas de obra nueva a precios ridículos pero no está dispuesto a vivir en ellas.
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@FranNunesEcon Gran parte de los votantes saben que detrás de las políticas tecnócratas y de las propuestas "basadas en la evidencia" se esconden ideologías que no tienen especial interés en conservar o mejorar sus condiciones de vida. Vamos, que el rollo de las "políticas objetivas" no cuela.
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Francisco Nunes
Francisco Nunes@FranNunesEcon·
Desconozco a qué se refiere. Dicho eso, España no va a llevar a cabo las reformas estructurales que necesita en, al menos, varias décadas. Gran parte de los votantes simplemente no quiere informarse y apoyan una y otra vez políticas que suenan bien pero agravan los problemas que pretenden solucionar. Y esto evidentemente aplica a uno y otro “lado”
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Francisco Nunes@FranNunesEcon·
Cosas a arreglar, en mi opinión, en España🇪🇸: Reformar el sistema de pensiones para hacerlo sostenible. Podría ser un sistema de cuentas nocionales o mixto. Aumentar en cientos de miles la oferta de vivienda pública (de alquiler) y privada, desregulando donde haga falta para aumentarla teniendo en cuenta el consejo de economistas expertos en la materia. Prioridad absoluta. Eliminar todo privilegio de financiación, como el cupo vasco, a cualquier comunidad autónoma. Evaluación empírica obligatoria y vinculante de toda política pública de gasto público o relevancia considerable aunque no implique gasto público de forma directa. Datos abiertos para investigadores. Imponer un IVA único, eliminando tipos reducidos y súper reducidos y centrando la redistribución en el gasto y basada en renta, no en factores como edad. Establecer un impuesto de sucesiones mínimo no simbólico a nivel nacional a partir de determinada herencia. Deflactación inmediata del IRPF y hacerlo obligatorio por ley. Establecer flexiseguridad estilo Dinamarca en el mercado laboral. Basta de tener un 13% de desempleo de media. Simplificación de la estructura impositiva (que no hacerla menos progresiva). Creación de un comité de los economistas académicos más reputados del país (fijándonos en factores cuantificables como las citas en artículos científicos que tienen en revistas revisadas por pares de alto impacto) para que evalúen los posibles efectos de las políticas públicas que se van a llevar a cabo. Su consejo debería ser, de alguna manera, vinculante, ya que son quienes mejor conocen las potenciales consecuencias no deseadas de estas políticas. Aumentar el gasto en I+D y financiar de forma correcta la labor investigadora en las universidades. No puede ser que un doctorando en España gane 1200€ al mes. Perdemos talento. Ajustar más la oferta de carreras universitarias a la demanda en universidades públicas sin eliminar la posibilidad de estudiar carreras que, aunque menos demandadas por el mercado, imparten un importante conocimiento, como Historia. Eliminar la necesidad de tener licencia en mercados como el taxi, así como permitir la competencia entre VTC y taxi en igualdad de condiciones. Aumento de la energía nuclear. Eliminar contenido ideológico, sea de la ideología que sea, se centros educativos de cualquier nivel. Integrar los cuerpos de policía autonómicos de Cataluña y País Vasco en la Policía Local. Fin de privilegios autonómicos. Imponer tanto el español como el inglés como únicas y obligatorias lenguas vehiculares en toda enseñanza. Eliminar el requisito de idiomas como catalán, euskera o valenciano para acceder a trabajos públicos. Solo debe ser necesario saber español y, sumado, inglés. Prohibir la enseñanza de doctrina religiosa (distinto de Historia de (todas) las religiones, que puede ser valiosa si se centra en historia de verdad y no sólo en lo que dicen los textos considerados sagrados) en centros públicos y privados. Prohibir la inscripción en cualquier religión a menores de edad. Establecer Economía (no de la empresa, Economía pura) y Lógica básica como asignaturas obligatorias a partir de 3º de la ESO. Tener una sociedad que razone correctamente es fundamental para el correcto funcionamiento de un sistema democrático. La alternativa es el populismo. Cambiar a una enseñanza basada en el entendimiento y no en la memorización de procedimientos mecánicos (por ejemplo, en Matemáticas). El bachillerato de ciencias naturales y de ciencias sociales deberían tener la misma asignatura de Matemáticas. Incremento del gasto en defensa.
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@Fer_1974_ @LordoLordor Lo que se discute es si sube pese a no ganar población, no si está más cara que en el pico de la burbuja inmobiliaria.
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@LordoLordor La vivienda en Asturias en términos reales es hoy más barata que en 2005.
Fer. tweet media
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@ondakondratiev Pero si además esta monserga ya la dieron hace diez años con las políticas basadas en datos, la evidencia y demás. Ya sabemos cómo termina.
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Société du spectacle
Société du spectacle@ondakondratiev·
Lo de siempre, los incentivos, el cinismo de operar por beneficio personal y lo demas siempre es del resto. Yo y mis amigos somos seres de luz que no tenemos de eso, solo buscamos la verdad, el bien y la bondad
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@GJuncales Toda esta gente escandalizada de repente con los salarios bajos es la misma que te dice con todo el papo que el problema nunca son las clases empresariales y su concepción extractiva del negocio, siempre "las pensiones".
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G. Juncales@GJuncales·
La productividad es la consecuencia del modelo de economía política que se ha impuesto en estos territorios, no la causa. Por lo tanto, toda esta jerga con gráficos de colorines, cuando no señala a quien impone el modelo solo oscurece el conocimiento de la realidad.
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G. Juncales@GJuncales·
Toda esta jerga, además en inglés, para evitar decir quién y como ha impuesto ese modelo de crecimiento basado en mucha mano de obra mal pagada. Ese modelo de crecimiento es el resultado del reparto político de la UE en la que el Estado español, entre otros, tiene esa función.
pablo@pablogguz_

spain needs a different growth model. in the last 30 years, real household disposable income per capita has grown by roughly 38% in real terms (around €5.7k per person at 2024 prices). this can be decomposed into growth in net labour income per capita (+16.7 pp), cash benefits such as pensions (+14.2 pp), and capital and self-employment income per capita (+7.2 pp). however, the labour contribution came entirely from the extensive margin (pulling more people into employment) rather than from higher real wages per worker. in fact, the average spanish employee takes home slightly less in real terms today than in 1995! going forward, this model is unlikely to keep working. the extensive-margin gains came from two channels, both of which leaned on favourable conditions that are (most likely) not going to repeat. the first is that the working-age population grew faster than the total population during the 90s and 2000s, mainly because of the favourable age structure left behind by spain's baby boom (the large cohorts born in the 1960s and 1970s moved into prime working age while the cohorts behind them were smaller), but also because of immigration waves that were disproportionately working-age. this is what demographers often call a demographic dividend, which lifts the employment-to-population ratio purely by composition (even with no change in how much any given working-age person works). the second channel is that, within the working-age population, the employment rate rose substantially, from below 50% in the mid-1990s to around two-thirds today. of course, none of this is bad, but there is only so much further either channel can go. the demographic dividend is already reversing: the baby boom cohorts are now moving into retirement, the cohorts replacing them are much smaller, and ageing will push the working-age share of the population down. the employment rate itself is approaching a natural ceiling -- there is still a gap relative to the average advanced european economy but it is not large, and closing it would only buy spain a few more years of compositional growth. immigration, often raised as the way out, cannot realistically offset the demographic drag ahead. the scale of net inflows required to offset ageing on a sustained basis is multiples of any plausible figure consistent with social and political constraints in european countries, and even if such flows materialised, immigrants themselves age and accrue the same retirement pension entitlements as natives. in other words, sustaining the current demographic structure would require a permanent inflow large enough to offset both the ageing of the native population and that of past migrant cohorts, indefinitely. fertility, however, is now falling across virtually every region of the world, and the global working-age population is projected to peak within a few decades and then decline. there is simply no migrant pool waiting to be drawn from on the scale spain would need. this is also why cash benefits cannot keep doing what they have been doing. it is worth being explicit about why retirement pensions, specifically, are at the centre of all this. spain runs a defined-benefit, pay-as-you-go public pension system: pensions are not the actuarial outcome of what each worker contributed, but a function of years contributed and final wages, paid out of the contributions of those currently working. the current system promises retirees an internal rate of return on their contributions that is significantly higher than anything the payments into the system can plausibly grow at. and because the payments into the system are, mechanically, the number of contributors times the average wage on which they contribute, a gap of that kind is sustainable only as long as the contributing base keeps expanding fast enough relative to the receiving one. the same demographic dynamics that enabled the extensive-margin growth of the last three decades are what allowed this to (sort of) work, but these are now reversing. on top of that, the system already runs a structural deficit: only about three-quarters of contributory pension expenditure is covered by social contributions, and the rest is financed out of general taxation paid by the entire population. and pensions are not an independent source of household income. they are funded by taxes, and taxes have to be levied on income generated somewhere in the economy. in spain, as in any developed country, that income is overwhelmingly the wage bill: personal income tax and social contributions on labour. so the real question is whether labour income per worker is growing. gross compensation per worker (including social security contributions) has in fact risen slightly in real terms since 1995, by around 5%. but the entire gain (and a little more) has been absorbed by a widening fiscal wedge, so that the take-home wage is marginally lower today than it was thirty years ago. in other words, the modest productivity gains the spanish economy has managed to deliver have not reached workers. they have been routed, in their entirety, into financing the rising weight of transfers. one could argue, of course, that if wages eventually start growing, the additional income can simply be taxed away to keep financing rising benefits. but that is just another way of saying that the take-home pay of the average spanish worker is supposed to stay flat for the foreseeable future, and that whatever productivity gains eventually arrive will be routed straight through to retirees. i will leave it to the reader to judge what kind of social contract that describes. thirty years of stagnant wages is already a long experiment in that direction. either policymakers start taking productivity growth seriously or the bill comes due on a model that was always going to run out of room.

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@nmjqmi "Se debate la realidad". De primero de discurso político: se debaten marcos. Qué eliges discutir y cómo lo discutes es tan importante como la sustancia. Esto no es la Academia y ninguno de los exaltados en esta controversia está en el negocio de la ciencia.
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