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The most hilarious thing about the Mbappe hate from M*drid fans is that if you take away his goals they’d be 12th in the league.
Vinicius & Bellingham are getting away with 2/10 campaigns for the second season in a row 😂😂😂
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❌❌ J'ai cliqué sur le site et les signatures allaient extrêmement vite.
Je me suis dit que c'était bizarre.
En examinant le code j'ai trouvé : c'est codé pour que les signatures augmentent de manière constantes.
Aucune grosse variation, aucun creu, aucun pic.
FAKE.
Actu Foot@ActuFoot_
Une pétition en ligne demandant le départ de Kylian Mbappé 🇫🇷 du Real Madrid A ATTEINT + DE 70 000 SIGNATURES EN 1 HEURE. 😳✍️ Les personnes qui ont créé le site en espéraient 50.000.
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What the fuck is wrong with you people
The Touchline | 𝐓@TouchlineX
🚨 𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: Real Madrid fans have started an online petition to get Kylian Mbappé out of their club. It has been signed over 140.000 times already by now.
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@imsomadridista Misplaced anger. People view these players as robots instead of people with a very public facing job. The season’s over and he’s injured.
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@3verd4de @managingmadrid I wish him to be the best in camel league or wherever else he wants to go, because until he leaves, we ain’t touching no ucl. Maybe a copa del rey, cause even in la liga, barca under flick won’t implode like that.
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"Mbappe was supposed to be the guy that fattens the margin of error — that takes the offense to another level.
On the surface, he did his part: He’s scored 85 goals in the past two season, and that includes a slow start to his Real Madrid career as well as missing seven games this season due to knee problems.
But his goals came with a cost: The team’s defensive shape fell off a cliff, and the structure of the team broke over and over again with him on the field. Vinicius, nominally a hard working winger on defense, had his defense dip when Mbappe was on the field (and not when Mbappe wasn’t). My theory: ‘if that guy doesn’t defend, why should I’? The defensive shape looked better when Vinicius was paired with Gonzalo Garcia or Brahim Diaz.
Paradoxically, despite Mbappe scoring nearly 60% of Real Madrid’s goals, the team didn’t look too worried about Mbappe’s absence in certain games. For example, in a four game stretch without him, they outscored opponents 14-5. Three of those four games were against Manchester City (twice) and Atletico Madrid. Despite being reliant on Mbappe’s goals when he’s on the field, the team looked confident in scoring without him, and part of that was because Valverde had much more offensive freedom without Mbappe. Valverde, in Munich, was a ghost, in part because Arbeloa needed him to do defensive work deep trying to accommodate Mbappe, Bellingham, and Vinicius higher up the field.
The question is: How does any of this make sense? Real Madrid added Kylian Mbappe to a Champions League winning team, and it tanked.
Part of the explanation is tactical, part of it is psychological. Mbappe is not a spiritual leader the way Benzema was. He puts his head down and does what he knows how to do. Benzema was more of a leader, a rallier — a man who could pump ice into his veins and tell his teammates ‘I got this, we’ll be ok’ when the team was backed into a wall. He gave directions. Teammates listened.
The tactical aspect is also clear: Mbappe likes freedom to operate in whatever zone he feels like operating in. That’s often deep, in the left half-space, in close proximity to where Vinicius is on the left wing. That’s not dissimilar to where Benzema liked to be; but Benzema also could act as a target in the box when the team needed him to, and he also had tremendous off-ball work rate and led by example.
The solution, from a tactical standpoint, if both players have to play, is also straightforward and not talked about enough, but admittedly more challenging in practice than merely putting it into words: Real Madrid need to recognize, collectively, on the fly, what run the team needs and it requires a constant recalibration of where Mbappe is. They have done better at this specific wrinkle over the past two months. Mbappe did make a lot of the right runs he was supposed to make against Bayern, and when he wasn’t there, Valverde or Thiago Pitarch would make that central forward run instead so that the team remained fluid with options. Most recently, against Real Betis, it was Bellingham acting as the target.
The other tactical concern is more challenging: The defensive side of things. If Real Madrid are to generate more chances without hurting their defensive line, they need to be masterful counter-pressers — something Mbappe is better at than when he’s asked to sit into a mid-block where his presence alone makes the first line of defense vulnerable. The ease at which opponents slice through is because of the numerical superiority they boast once passing the forwards. All of a sudden, the midfielders and defenders tread water marking more than one player.
That’s where finding the right coach becomes challenging, because the tactical concerns they will face won’t go away, and every coach wants his players to work hard, run, press, and make different runs. Every coach will have a difficult task doing these things with this team — hence why the board should look at holding players accountable as much as the coaches they bring in.
There was a promising high press brewing with Xabi Alonso earlier this season, but for reasons discussed to death, that team evaporated and Alonso was fired. Arbeloa’s record is even worse. The main difference between Arbeloa and Alonso is that the players and board both like Arbeloa — though he is a dead man walking anyway and part of the reason the board likes him is because he says what the board wants him to say, which is unhealthy in itself. Alonso was less diplomatic and more authoritative. Many felt that’s exactly what the team needed given what happened the season prior.
Alas, finding the man who can balance everything is challenging. Jurgen Klopp, for example, is a legend. The most obvious question to him is the same one I asked Alonso last summer during the Club World Cup: ‘How will you press with a forward who doesn’t press’?"
- @KiyanSo : managingmadrid.com/kiyans-observa…
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@3verd4de @managingmadrid Psg isn’t missing his goals, but sure af they’re not missing his bum ass, seeing how much of a team they are without him. And real looked the best when he was injured. These aren’t meaningless stats.
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@BogdanRMCF @managingmadrid I am in no way saying he’s been the perfect player this season or that he can’t improve but for someone that has been playing injured on a team not doing well, it’s weird to make their failures about him when he’s scored 60% of the team’s goals.
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@3verd4de @managingmadrid How? Mbappe has the worst conversion rate of anyone who has 10+ goals in la liga. Over the last few months he has 3 goals from 37 chances. That’s not a striker doing his job, that’s a midfield putting in the work. And when that line also has to fill in the gaps, it gets exposed
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Shit defense, shit midfield. Only one consistent scorer. Simple as.
Managing Madrid@managingmadrid
"Mbappe was supposed to be the guy that fattens the margin of error — that takes the offense to another level. On the surface, he did his part: He’s scored 85 goals in the past two season, and that includes a slow start to his Real Madrid career as well as missing seven games this season due to knee problems. But his goals came with a cost: The team’s defensive shape fell off a cliff, and the structure of the team broke over and over again with him on the field. Vinicius, nominally a hard working winger on defense, had his defense dip when Mbappe was on the field (and not when Mbappe wasn’t). My theory: ‘if that guy doesn’t defend, why should I’? The defensive shape looked better when Vinicius was paired with Gonzalo Garcia or Brahim Diaz. Paradoxically, despite Mbappe scoring nearly 60% of Real Madrid’s goals, the team didn’t look too worried about Mbappe’s absence in certain games. For example, in a four game stretch without him, they outscored opponents 14-5. Three of those four games were against Manchester City (twice) and Atletico Madrid. Despite being reliant on Mbappe’s goals when he’s on the field, the team looked confident in scoring without him, and part of that was because Valverde had much more offensive freedom without Mbappe. Valverde, in Munich, was a ghost, in part because Arbeloa needed him to do defensive work deep trying to accommodate Mbappe, Bellingham, and Vinicius higher up the field. The question is: How does any of this make sense? Real Madrid added Kylian Mbappe to a Champions League winning team, and it tanked. Part of the explanation is tactical, part of it is psychological. Mbappe is not a spiritual leader the way Benzema was. He puts his head down and does what he knows how to do. Benzema was more of a leader, a rallier — a man who could pump ice into his veins and tell his teammates ‘I got this, we’ll be ok’ when the team was backed into a wall. He gave directions. Teammates listened. The tactical aspect is also clear: Mbappe likes freedom to operate in whatever zone he feels like operating in. That’s often deep, in the left half-space, in close proximity to where Vinicius is on the left wing. That’s not dissimilar to where Benzema liked to be; but Benzema also could act as a target in the box when the team needed him to, and he also had tremendous off-ball work rate and led by example. The solution, from a tactical standpoint, if both players have to play, is also straightforward and not talked about enough, but admittedly more challenging in practice than merely putting it into words: Real Madrid need to recognize, collectively, on the fly, what run the team needs and it requires a constant recalibration of where Mbappe is. They have done better at this specific wrinkle over the past two months. Mbappe did make a lot of the right runs he was supposed to make against Bayern, and when he wasn’t there, Valverde or Thiago Pitarch would make that central forward run instead so that the team remained fluid with options. Most recently, against Real Betis, it was Bellingham acting as the target. The other tactical concern is more challenging: The defensive side of things. If Real Madrid are to generate more chances without hurting their defensive line, they need to be masterful counter-pressers — something Mbappe is better at than when he’s asked to sit into a mid-block where his presence alone makes the first line of defense vulnerable. The ease at which opponents slice through is because of the numerical superiority they boast once passing the forwards. All of a sudden, the midfielders and defenders tread water marking more than one player. That’s where finding the right coach becomes challenging, because the tactical concerns they will face won’t go away, and every coach wants his players to work hard, run, press, and make different runs. Every coach will have a difficult task doing these things with this team — hence why the board should look at holding players accountable as much as the coaches they bring in. There was a promising high press brewing with Xabi Alonso earlier this season, but for reasons discussed to death, that team evaporated and Alonso was fired. Arbeloa’s record is even worse. The main difference between Arbeloa and Alonso is that the players and board both like Arbeloa — though he is a dead man walking anyway and part of the reason the board likes him is because he says what the board wants him to say, which is unhealthy in itself. Alonso was less diplomatic and more authoritative. Many felt that’s exactly what the team needed given what happened the season prior. Alas, finding the man who can balance everything is challenging. Jurgen Klopp, for example, is a legend. The most obvious question to him is the same one I asked Alonso last summer during the Club World Cup: ‘How will you press with a forward who doesn’t press’?" - @KiyanSo : managingmadrid.com/kiyans-observa…
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@Mahnya27 @managingmadrid Thank you. recency bias and them stumbling into a winning season via individual brilliance from Jude and then Vini waking up for UCL knockouts does not erase how shit they were
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@managingmadrid IT WAS NOT A GOOD MADRID TEAM. During the 2023/24 campaign, Real eliminated City in the quarter-finals despite City's overwhelming statistical dominance in the second leg. While City controlled nearly every metric, Madrid advanced on penalties after a 1–1 draw (4–4 on aggregate).
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@lang_wane @managingmadrid he’s literally not the only striker that drops to midfield have you ever seen Harry Kane play?
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@3verd4de @managingmadrid That's because Mbappé will be in that midfield doing fxck all...
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"The main reason was that Kylian Mbappé didn’t challenge Real Betis’ backline to push them deeper toward their goal, which would put the hosts in a dilemma, whether to follow Mbappé, so the space between the lines would get stretched, or, they would ignore his movement and risk the space behind the defensive line getting exposed. However, Mbappé preferred the ball to his feet, which left Betis’ defenders in comfort, and they shrank the space between the lines with the support of the midfield line, swarming around Pitarch to recover the ball."
- @LamdarhriAchraf : managingmadrid.com/managing-madri…
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@theMadridZone @marca Could this be a medical staff issue or la Liga is just alot more physical??
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🚨 Kylian Mbappé has already suffered 13 injuries during his time at Real Madrid.
He had 13 injuries during his full 7 years at PSG. @marca
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