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Katılım Ekim 2025
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🟢 BUYING LLL .com (3L) / LLLL .com (4L) ONLY - NOTHING ELSE ✅Only LLL .com or LLLL .com 1)❌ No numbers 2)❌ No hyphens 3)❌ No symbols 4) ❌No other domain zones except the .com zone Domains must be transferable and sent either by auth code or by Spaceship → Spaceship push. 📌 !!!READ THE RULES BEFORE YOU MESSAGE ME!!! If you cannot follow these simple instructions, do not message me, or I will block you forever. ⚠️ Any rule violation = immediate block. No warnings. No second chances. No further communication. 💵 PAYMENT RULES: Transfer first, payment only after I receive the domains. I do not pay first. Ever. Available payment methods: 1) Direct wallet-to-wallet USDC (ERC-20) after receipt 2) Dynadot Pay Link (+5% seller fee) 3) Spaceship checkout link (+5% seller fee) If you use checkout (Dynadot or Spaceship), include the fee in the price that you send to me. I will not calculate it for you. 📉 PRICING RULES: I buy at investor / wholesale prices only. Do not negotiate. Do not ask me to make an offer. Do not send "price?", "what do you pay?", or "make offer". Send your best and final price immediately. 📝 FORMAT YOUR MESSAGE EXACTLY LIKE THIS: AAEB.COM - 500 AAUZ.COM - 100 .... .... One domain per line. Price as a number only. 📬 REPLY POLICY: I reply only if interested. No reply from me = pass. ⛔Do not follow up ⛔Do not bump ⛔Do not ask if I saw your message ⛔Do not resend the same domains ⛔Do not spam ⛔ If you ignore any of the rules above, send irrelevant domains, send messages without prices, ask for payment first, or ask for a different payment method than the ones I listed above, try to negotiate, or waste my time in any way, you will be blocked immediately and forever.
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Here is the correspondence with support. They could not point to any law that requires them to carry out such verification with copies of documents/selfie, even after several requests. They could not provide this information to me either by email or in the chat with their agent. Everyone can draw their own conclusions. I have already drawn mine, and I simply removed all my 22,000+ 4L .com domains from this platform.
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Today I sold a domain on @Sedo for $3,000. Only after the sale, Sedo triggered "seller verification" through Adyen at balanceplatform-live.adyen.com. The verification form asks for my legal first and last name exactly as on my ID, date of birth, country of residence, email, phone number, full residential address, postal code, city, and a copy of a passport, national ID, or driver’s license. This is the kind of document set a bank asks for when opening an account. But I am not opening a bank account, taking a loan, requesting credit, or initiating a suspicious payment. I am simply receiving proceeds from a domain I already owned and sold. If there are concerns about the origin of the funds used to buy the domain, then this level of verification should be applied to the buyer and the buyer's payment method - not to the seller. The buyer is the party sending money into the transaction. I am the existing domain holder receiving a payout. Sedo already required me to confirm control of the domain through DNS using a TXT record. For a domain marketplace, that should be enough to establish that I control the domain and am authorized to sell it. Sedo also already has my SEPA payout bank account in the account settings. The bank beneficiary name matches the first and last name in my Sedo account. For a payout to my own bank account, that should be the privacy-respecting verification method: bank beneficiary/name match, payout details, account history, domain ownership, and, if really needed, bank confirmation - not passport upload by default. The timing is the worst part. I spent a lot of time listing 22,000+ 4L .com domains on Sedo and changing DNS records to prove ownership/control. Then, after the first sale, I am suddenly told that to receive a relatively small $3,000 payout I need to provide the same level of personal information usually required to open a bank account. If bank-level KYC is mandatory for seller payouts, it should be disclosed clearly before sellers onboard thousands of domains, not after a sale has already happened and the platform owes the seller money. Sedo's own terms say that "data protection cannot be universally guaranteed" when data is transmitted through public networks, and that Sedo makes no warranty that its services will be "uninterrupted, timely, secure, or error-free": sedo.com/us/about-us/po… Adyen's own privacy materials say that sensitive personal information such as a passport, ID document or driver’s license may be disclosed to identity verification providers, including credit reference agencies. Their compliance materials also mention third-party identification, screening and verification services, including credit reporting agencies and open banking providers, automated systems such as machine learning models, and analysis for statistical, strategic and scientific purposes. Identity documents and biometric identifiers may typically be stored for 5 years, and business relationship data for 7 years: adyen.com/privacy-policy adyen.com/privacy-policy… So no, I am not going to feed a third-party financial verification/scoring ecosystem with my passport just to receive a $3,000 domain payout. If their terms give them the legal right to disclose and use this data across such providers and systems, I have to assume they may use that right. That does not motivate me to share my documents. It does the opposite. Once an ID document leaks, you cannot simply "change" it like a password. The risk is permanent. We still do not live in a digital prison where every marketplace can demand passport scans by default for a basic payout. This is bad practice and unfair timing. @Sedo should either disclose mandatory KYC before sellers invest time listing and verifying domains, or offer a privacy-respecting alternative for legitimate sellers: DNS ownership/control proof, bank beneficiary verification or bank confirmation - without forcing government ID upload as the default path. Want to build risk models, scoring systems or analytics using my personal documents? Pay me directly for that data. Do not hide it behind forced "seller verification" after my domain has already been sold.
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🌐 Domain: PTNR .COM 💵 Sold: $6,000 🔤 Patterns: CCCC | ABCD ⚙️ Landing: Afternic (NS1/NS2) 📅 Purchased: Mar 6, 2025 ⏳ Hold time: 422 days 🛒 Purchase: $800 (13.3%) 🧾 Fees: $600 (10%) 📊 Net: $5,400 | Profit: $4,600 | ROI: 575% 🏷 Sold via @Spaceship Note: The domain was using Afternic nameservers and showed the Afternic landing page, so the lead did not come from the domain landing page. The sale was completed through Spaceship, which means the buyer likely came from the Spaceship or Namecheap network/marketplace. #DomainSold #Domains
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This heatmaps shows adjusted letter performance. For example inside the CCCC pattern a high score for V does not mean V is one of the best letters overall. It means that, within sold CCCC domains in this filtered dataset, V performed above the average CCCC baseline in that specific position. The chart measures relative price strength, not sales volume or liquidity.
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I also ran the same analysis for several popular pattern-only subsets: CCCC: V is the strongest consonant overall, especially in positions 1, 2, and 4. C and S also look very strong and relatively stable. T, M, P, D, L, R, Y, N, and B can perform well, but are more position-dependent. The weakest letters are Q, Z, J, K, W, and F.
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Over the past few days, I put together some historical sales statistics for 4L .com domains and decided to share a few interesting findings. I keep my own 4L .com sales database based on the sources I was able to access: NameBio, GoDaddy/Afternic comparable sales data, and my own historical sales. To make the analysis cleaner, I used only sales in the $1,000-$24,999 range. Lower sales were excluded because I have personally bought many 4L .com domains below $1,000 (more than 23k) over the last few years, which could distort the lower end of the data. Higher sales were excluded because GoDaddy/Afternic caps comparable sales at $25,000 and does not show sale dates. ⚠️Disclaimer: this is my personal research and opinion. I did my best to clean and filter the dataset, but I can't guarantee the data is 100% correct - there's always a possibility of mistakes in the source data, filters, or my script. Use this as a reference, not as a guarantee or financial advice. The index is normalized so that 100 = baseline. Values above 100 performed better than average; values below 100 performed worse. For the full 4L .com sample (all possible patterns), vowels clearly dominate. The strongest letters overall are A, O, E, I, and U, with O, A, E, and I showing the strongest results. Among consonants, S, V, T, C, M, P, L, R, B, and N generally look better than average, but most consonants are much closer to the baseline than vowels. The weakest letters in the full 4L .com sample are Q, J, Z, W, X, F, G, and K. Q, J, and Z are consistently among the weakest.
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The most expensive pattern, as everyone knows, is CVCV, with 2,041 sales and an average price of $3,952. To my surprise, the VVCV pattern came in second place, with 230 sales and an average price of $3,600, while VCVC came only in third place, with 1,034 sales and an average price of $3,301, although I always considered it the second most popular 4L pattern in terms of price.
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CVCC: Best signals: Position 1: B, H, V, W, S, G, D Position 2 vowel: A is best; E/I/O are close to baseline; U is weakest Position 3: N, R, V, S, T Position 4: T, K, S, Q, H, L, R, X Weak spots: Position 1: X, Y, Q Position 2 vowel: U Position 3: J, Q, Y, H Position 4: W, F, J
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My account is old. It was created in 2015, or maybe even earlier. I do not remember exactly anymore, and I have no place to check it now. Moreover, I bought domains through them for more than 80k dollars. I also sold domains through them before and received payouts to my bank details. Then there was a break for a couple of years. After this break, this was the very first sale, and you can see the result. So my account is already more than 10 years old, and a large amount of money has passed through it, both from buying and selling domains.
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@4Ldotcom @Sedo Sedo used to be great, but they didn't keep up and will end up being sold. As for that KYC, welcome to the surveillance age that will only get worse. Is your account creation date recent? Wonder if they will request same junk for old accounts when we make sales (so rare at Sedo).
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🌐 Domain: MLHL .COM 💵 Sold: $5,000 🔤 Patterns: CCCC | ABCB ⚙️ Landing: Afternic (NS1/NS2) 📅 Purchased: Aug 26, 2025 ⏳ Hold time: 241 days 🛒 Purchase: $650 (13%) 🧾 Fees: $750 (15%) 📊 Net: $4,250 | Profit: $3,600 | ROI: 553.85% 🏷 Sold via @Afternic #DomainSold #Domains
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🌐 Domain: CXZF .COM 💵 Sold: $1,500 🔤 Patterns: CCCC | ABCD ⚙️ Landing: Afternic (NS1/NS2) 📅 Purchased: Aug 9, 2023 ⏳ Hold time: 989 days 🛒 Purchase: $250 (16.7%) 🧾 Fees: $225 (15%) 📊 Net: $1,275 | Profit: $1,025 | ROI: 410% 🏷 Sold via @Afternic #DomainSold #Domains
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@MexicanGreek @afternic @GoDaddy Yes, I also noticed this problem around the time when a message appeared saying that they were changing something in their API. But the message disappeared, and the function for adding domains still has not returned.
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@GoDaddy, you have some problem with adding many domains to @afternic platform at once through the website interface. If a large number of domains is entered, for example 50, as shown in my screenshot, then after clicking the "Submit" button, an error message appears. At the same time, if I add only 5 domains, for example, there is no such problem.
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🌐 Domain: ZTXC .COM 💵 Sold: $2,000 🔤 Patterns: CCCC | ABCD ⚙️ Landing: Afternic (NS1/NS2) 📅 Purchased: Oct 22, 2023 ⏳ Hold time: 913 days 🛒 Purchase: $250 (12.5%) 🧾 Fees: $300 (15%) 📊 Net: $1,700 | Profit: $1,450 | ROI: 580% 🏷 Sold via @Afternic #DomainSold #Domains
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🌐 Domain: PEJD .COM 💵 Sold: $3,500 🔤 Patterns: CVCC | ABCD ⚙️ Landing: Afternic (NS1/NS2) 📅 Purchased: Oct 01, 2023 ⏳ Hold time: 933 days 🛒 Purchase: $150 (4.29%) 🧾 Fees: $350 (10%) 📊 Net: $3,150 | Profit: $3,000 | ROI: 2000% 🏷 Sold via @Spaceship Note: The domain was using Afternic nameservers and showed the Afternic landing page, so the lead did not come from the domain landing page. The sale was completed through Spaceship, which means the buyer likely came from the Spaceship or Namecheap network/marketplace. #DomainSold #Domains
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🌐 Domain: MXVV .COM 💵 Sold: $1,000 🔤 Patterns: CCCC | ABCC ⚙️ Landing: Afternic (NS1/NS2) 📅 Purchased: Oct 16, 2023 ⏳ Hold time: 916 days 🛒 Purchase: $250 (25%) 🧾 Fees: $150 (15%) 📊 Net: $850 | Profit: $600 | ROI: 240% 🏷 Sold via @Afternic #DomainSold #Domains
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🌐 Domain: MXKK .COM 💵 Sold: $2,500 🔤 Patterns: CCCC | ABCC ⚙️ Landing: Afternic (NS1/NS2) 📅 Purchased: Sep 26, 2023 ⏳ Hold time: 936 days 🛒 Purchase: $250 (10%) 🧾 Fees: $375 (15%) 📊 Net: $2,125 | Profit: $1,875 | ROI: 750% 🏷 Sold via @Afternic #DomainSold #Domains
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