ASimpleFrog

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Young people are losing working opportunities anyway. What country are you living in? Go to a working class community and ask people how many of their kids are going off to work abroad for investment firms. You are not living in the real world mate.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad the point was that many people work internationally. people from here go to work across the world and vice versa. saying the UK is opting out would make us all much poorer and deny our young career opportunities

"Britain will be destroyed without mass immigration" is probably the most ridiculous take.

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad The infrastructure isn't done because its easier to do quick fix solutions like mass migration. This is my entire point that you keep dodging. Mass migration is done instead of these changes that would benefit people in this country.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad yes the north needs a east west HS3 or something along those lines. to be fair there was a new horizontal link planned that has been ditched along with birmingham/manchester my issue is that lack of this kind of infrastructure puts off global investment

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad How does this address my point at all? All the problems we talked about are still there. They have not been fixed by importing millions into the country. How does your mate working abroad have any relevancy to this? How does it disprove anything I have said. It does not matter.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad i thought the point was dumb. all successful economies in the modern world run on international firms. hence i have friends working across the world and i work with people from across the world here

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad London already has train connections. It needed to be a way for people from the North to travel for work. South already has train connections across the country. The North is where it was needed and so far they have got nothing.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad well it needs to run to london, thats the point. people refrain from basing themselves in the north because time wise, not distance wise, london is annoyingly far away.

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Access to London is indeed good for northern communities. Shame HS2 Started in London where there is already train connections instead of the area that actually needed it. Rather than building a train connection its ballooned into a ridiculous waste of money.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad it was a Andrew Adonis project and labour were out of office for most of the subsequent dev and start of the construction. so i’m not sure who’s vanity. access to london and by extension the continent is vital for the northern economy though. the current congestion is expensive

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Why dont you actually engage with the point I am making? Instead of coming up with silly hypotheticals.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad would it be better do you think is we all emigrated and left you lot to it. empty the Cambridge/oxford research/tech strip and relocate it to say denmark. who subsidises the hinterlands if the international cities and areas were to evacuate?

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad You are confused by a lot of things that are clear and evident. Migrant Labour is cheaper than hiring locals that is a fact. Your anecdotal statement of someone is not relevant when the endless times that the government and those around have said it openly contradicts you.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad i’m confused by that response to the tweet about brits working globally too

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Are you really suggesting its not a vanity project. You look at the ballooning costs of it and the fact its barely moved past London which is the area that needs it the least and you dont see a massively failed project?

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad so how does a rail line not be a vanity project? we hate that it’s been curtailed really we need HS3, HS4 etc

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad HS2 is hated because it is a failed project. What should have been a train line from north to south became a massively bloated vanity project costing far too much. Thats why its hated. City dwelling Liberals also hate it for that reason.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad the hate for say HS2 is mostly from the right, not city dwelling liberals

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Yes really. This is not a debate this is fact. This is why mass migration is done. These people openly say thats why they back it because it is cheaper for them.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad not really the best jobs with the best pay are with international firms that put their people where they need them. one school friend of mine was based in birmingham, now based in Chicago. same firm.

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Why are there so many international firms? Because another quick fix scheme was to massively de industrialise and sell off British businesses to the highest foreign bidder. Another quick way to pad the econ stats that results in problems further down the line.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad international firms whether they are based in the UK or Australia or singapore or Kuala Lumpa or canada or………have international teams. saying the UK can’t have international teams here means they just won’t have a campus here. ageing population is the main strain on infrast

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Aging population which is still there and not being fixed by mass migration. Every new person into the country will grow old and be dependant on the state. Every person will add strain to infrastructure. Basic supply and demand.

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad They are cheaper than training and hiring local people which is why it is done. This is said openly by business owners and econ think tanks. You are from a working class background but seem to not care at all about working class people.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad i come from a working class back ground where people went to work in factories by day and evening courses at night. as pointed out earlier skilled immigrant workers aren’t cheap. just like say a UK neuroscientist isn’t cheap for a singaporean company to hire

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad What do you mean "Such people" you seem to have a clear disregard for working people in these communities. Often the worst NIMBYs are Middle and upper classes who vote for Lib Dem not working people so I am not sure where you get this concept of train hating working classes from.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad when governments try to build new railways and such people deride them for it often the same people that would be helped by them. but maybe that’s it. they think they won’t be helped by it. bit like the people in sunderland who hate nissan workers despite the money they bring

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad But those things dont happen why? Because instead of doing those things the state instead can import a million migrants and give them the jobs instead. This is my whole point. Instead of doing those things they go for the easy solution of mass migration.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad also the costs to up skill if you can’t afford a decent computer or other kit, is quite prohibitive. and the death of the evening course at your local college is really depressing. i agree with this side of your argument. these people should be campaigning for new railways and

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad They cant afford evening courses. Go to a actual working community and talk to actual working people and ask them why they arent getting these jobs. Its because they cant. You are fine with rich businesses hiring cheap foreign labour over people who need the jobs here.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad evening courses. forcing loads of international well paying companies to move abroad isn’t going to help them. it’s just revenge

@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad Answer my question. Do you think it is sustainable long term for companies to need to keep importing more workers rather than training up people here or innovating? Considering the infrastructure demand.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad they would just move companies like EA have studios and subsidiaries across the globe. they would just close their UK operations and use countries where they can combine local and international talent more freely. our young people would be the ones losing out

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@IanJon407 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad That's all good if you are earning currently but if you are struggling to find work a d keep a roof over their head they are not going to find the time to train themselves and get a degree of needed. Businesses should recruit and train people but they say it's too expensive.

@ASimpleFro95451 @jsreynolds59 @Sargon_of_Akkad massively disagree on the training aspect. But then to a degree we have to take responsibility for our own training and companies top it up with specifics. i have to train on new things all the time. usually it’s my own responsibility