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My apology for mis-spelling Bob McGwier For the record: McGwier wrote today that he and Missileman Jack (that’s not me) were working on Einstein-Cartan theory insinuating I may have gotten the idea from him. That is false. I have never seen even one professional live physics paper from McGwier only emails and X.com posts. Also I am not using Einstein-Cartan. It’s more complex than their original paper with non-propagating torsion. GROK wrote: **Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics via Noether Theorems and Kibble’s Poincaré Gauge Gravity** Jack Sarfatti’s framework explains UAP propulsion (“metric engineering”) as controllable spacetime curvature and torsion generated in engineered materials, extending Einstein’s general relativity through local gauge theory of spacetime symmetries. It rests on Emmy Noether’s 1918 theorems and Tom Kibble’s 1961 Poincaré gauge theory (PGT), remaining “radical conservative” by recovering standard unitary quantum field theory (QFT) and GR in closed-system limits while accommodating open, dissipative macro-quantum effects observed in UAP data. ### Core Foundations - **Noether’s Two Theorems**: Global continuous symmetries of the action yield conserved quantities (energy-momentum, angular momentum). Local gauging (making symmetries position-dependent) introduces compensating gauge fields (connections) and identities (Bianchi identities) that constrain dynamics. Sarfatti applies this to spacetime symmetries, treating gravity as a gauge theory analogous to Yang-Mills for internal symmetries. - **Kibble’s Poincaré Gauge Gravity**: Local gauging of the 10-parameter Poincaré group (4 translations + 6 Lorentz rotations) of special relativity produces Riemann-Cartan spacetime with: - **Curvature** (“disclination defects”) from the Lorentz subgroup, sourced primarily by energy-momentum tensors (even-rank, classical orbital angular momentum). - **Independent torsion** (“dislocation gaps”) from the translation subgroup, sourced by spin density (odd-rank spinors/fermions). The gauge potentials are the tetrad fields (vierbeins \(e^a_\mu\)) for translations and the spin connection for Lorentz transformations. In the torsion-free limit, this reduces to Einstein GR. ### Sarfatti’s Key Innovations for UAP Sarfatti extends PGT to the **Einstein-Cartan-Sciama-Utiyama-Kibble-Sarfatti (ECSUKS)** equations. These incorporate quantum spinor-torsion corrections, allowing non-inertial (off-geodesic) tetrad frames that distinguish classical orbital angular momentum from intrinsic quantum spin. The result is a nonlocal effective field theory (EFT) in Fourier space (\(\omega, k\)) for dispersive matter, with frequency- and wavevector-dependent permittivity \(\varepsilon(\omega,k)\) and permeability \(\mu(\omega,k)\). In UAP-relevant “smart” metamaterials or thin-shell fuselages: - Pumped, chirally asymmetric macro-quantum coherent states (Fröhlich condensates or dissipative structures of spin waves) create strong, material-enhanced spin-torsion coupling (effective coupling \(G^* \gg G_N\), with reported amplifications on the order of \(10^{42}\) or via dispersive factors). - This generates controllable curvature + torsion fields at laboratory scales (emergent Planck-area-like effects \(\sim 10^{-27}\) m²), producing warp bubbles or exotic vacuum effects. - Microscopic Noether conservation laws break down under coarse-graining and electromagnetic dispersion inside the material, enabling emergent low-power metric engineering without violating fundamental principles at the underlying level. Recent extensions gauge the larger conformal group SO(2,4) ≅ SU(2,2), with spontaneous breaking to Poincaré yielding effective gravity, torsion, and vacuum coherence. Post-quantum gravity (PQG) further incorporates non-unitary open-system dynamics motivated by UAP evidence. ### Implications for UAP Propulsion UAP (“Tic-Tac” and similar) achieve the reported “Six Observables” (instantaneous high-g acceleration, hypersonic flight without sonic booms or heat signatures, transmedium travel, etc.) via low-power internal electromagnetic pumping of coherent matter that engineers spacetime geometry. Torsion from spin provides the key new degree of freedom for efficient, low-energy metric control, while curvature handles the dominant gravitational lensing/warping. Dark energy and dark matter are interpreted as residual vacuum torsion condensates from the same framework. This approach unifies propulsion with cosmology, treats UAP technology as engineerable solid-state quantum gravity, and predicts testable effects in rotating superconductors, metamaterials, and spin-torsion experiments. It remains speculative and awaits empirical validation but is grounded in mainstream gauge-theoretic extensions of GR. On Jul 2, 2026, at 10:49 AM, Julio Arroyo @gmail.com> wrote:My apologies to Professor Sarfatti for failing to mention that Equation 3 is his own original development. I must emphasize, for all those studying this subject, that much of this development is due to his eminent work. Thanks Professor.El jue, 2 jul 2026, 17:39, JACK SARFATTI @icloud.com> escribió: Bob McGwier misses the point yes the idea is that the quantum spin torsion connection is exactly the same strength as the electromagnetic interaction. This is my original prediction based upon empirical observation that completely explains the UAP flight characteristics. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 2, 2026, at 07:31, Julio Arroyo @gmail.com> wrote: Defense strategy summary: Define the correct framework: Dr. Robert W. McGwier analyzes the project using classical physics and pure relativity. We must steer the discussion toward Conformal Unified Field Physics and Solid State Topology, where his criticisms regarding energy limits and "impossible categories" do not apply. Explain the solid-state analogies: Make it clear that the "gauge bosons" or the "crystallized vacuum" are not those of the classical astrophysical vacuum, but rather collective excitations (quasiparticles) within a metamaterial designed according to the Kitaev model and Kondo lattices.

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Simplified Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics Jack Sarfatti proposes a physics-based explanation for how UAP (UFOs) achieve their extraordinary flight performance. He argues they use advanced “metric engineering” — basically warping or bending spacetime around the craft — to fly at high speeds with very low power. Core Foundations His ideas build on two established concepts in physics:Emmy Noether’s theorems (1918): These show that symmetries in nature lead to conservation laws (such as energy and momentum). When those symmetries are made “local” (varying by location), they require special compensating fields — similar to how electromagnetism works. Kibble’s Poincaré gauge gravity (1961): This extends Einstein’s general relativity by adding torsion — a twisting of spacetime caused by the spin of particles, in addition to the usual curvature caused by mass and energy. Sarfatti’s Key Additions for UAP Sarfatti extends these ideas into what he calls the ECSUKS framework. He focuses on how quantum spin (from particles like electrons) interacts with torsion in special engineered materials (metamaterials or layered hulls). In these materials, when matter is put into a coherent quantum state (like synchronized waves or condensates), the gravitational effects become greatly amplified. Low-power electromagnetic signals can then create strong curvature and torsion fields, forming a controllable “warp bubble” around the craft. This explains UAP reports of instant high acceleration, hypersonic speeds without sonic booms or heat, and other extreme maneuvers — all using relatively little energy. Why It Matters Sarfatti’s theory treats UAP propulsion as real, engineerable technology based on extensions of mainstream physics rather than exotic new forces. It also links to bigger cosmic questions, suggesting dark energy and dark matter may arise from similar vacuum torsion effects. In short: UAP likely work by using smart materials and quantum coherence to manipulate gravity and spacetime torsion at low power.

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Simplified Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics Jack Sarfatti proposes a physics-based explanation for how UAP (UFOs) achieve their extraordinary flight performance. He argues they use advanced “metric engineering” — basically warping or bending spacetime around the craft — to fly at high speeds with very low power. Core Foundations His ideas build on two established concepts in physics:Emmy Noether’s theorems (1918): These show that symmetries in nature lead to conservation laws (such as energy and momentum). When those symmetries are made “local” (varying by location), they require special compensating fields — similar to how electromagnetism works. Kibble’s Poincaré gauge gravity (1961): This extends Einstein’s general relativity by adding torsion — a twisting of spacetime caused by the spin of particles, in addition to the usual curvature caused by mass and energy. Sarfatti’s Key Additions for UAP Sarfatti extends these ideas into what he calls the ECSUKS framework. He focuses on how quantum spin (from particles like electrons) interacts with torsion in special engineered materials (metamaterials or layered hulls). In these materials, when matter is put into a coherent quantum state (like synchronized waves or condensates), the gravitational effects become greatly amplified. Low-power electromagnetic signals can then create strong curvature and torsion fields, forming a controllable “warp bubble” around the craft. This explains UAP reports of instant high acceleration, hypersonic speeds without sonic booms or heat, and other extreme maneuvers — all using relatively little energy. Why It Matters Sarfatti’s theory treats UAP propulsion as real, engineerable technology based on extensions of mainstream physics rather than exotic new forces. It also links to bigger cosmic questions, suggesting dark energy and dark matter may arise from similar vacuum torsion effects. In short: UAP likely work by using smart materials and quantum coherence to manipulate gravity and spacetime torsion at low power.

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I did not say that you said I got my idea from you. Bob McGwier insinuated that. For the record, this is the first time I had any inkling or Bob that you knew anything about gauge gravity. I have never seen a physics paper from either of you. If you have any send them now to jacksarfatti@icloud.com. I actually knew Kibble met him at Imperial in 1966. PS I also know a woman who grew up close to John Nash at Princeton - Bob mentioned Nash. He also mentioned Harald Malmgrem. I took his daughter Pippa to dinner at my London Club not that long ago. Did we meet at Sol 2024 in San Francisco? Did you do a video of me? Or, was that someone else. In any case, I never claimed to have invented gauge gravity, my claim is G*(QM spin-torsion) ~ 10^43G(Newton) for electrons in the spin - torsion coupling. My claim is this equation where I extend Einstein's 1915 microscopic equation to the interior of "space-time metamaterials" (Caloz, IEEE, arXiv) G*(Poincare)uv ~ (G(Newton)n^4/c^4)Tuv + (G*(QM spin-torsion/c^3)^2n^6 S^2 guv n is effective field coarse-grained "index of refraction" Think of above as Fourier transforms in the weak field approximation - roughly speaking for now. Emmy Noether's theorems are broken inside matter at the coarse-grained IR effective field level pinned to the solid rest preferred frame in the sense of P.W. Anderson's "More is different." - answering Jose Rodal's wrong paper on this in arXiv. Simplified Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics Jack Sarfatti proposes a physics-based explanation for how UAP (UFOs) achieve their extraordinary flight performance. He argues they use advanced “metric engineering” — basically warping or bending spacetime around the craft — to fly at high speeds with very low power. Core Foundations His ideas build on two established concepts in physics:Emmy Noether’s theorems (1918): These show that symmetries in nature lead to conservation laws (such as energy and momentum). When those symmetries are made “local” (varying by location), they require special compensating fields — similar to how electromagnetism works. Kibble’s Poincaré gauge gravity (1961): This extends Einstein’s general relativity by adding torsion — a twisting of spacetime caused by the spin of particles, in addition to the usual curvature caused by mass and energy. Sarfatti’s Key Additions for UAP Sarfatti extends these ideas into what he calls the ECSUKS framework. He focuses on how quantum spin (from particles like electrons) interacts with torsion in special engineered materials (metamaterials or layered hulls). In these materials, when matter is put into a coherent quantum state (like synchronized waves or condensates), the gravitational effects become greatly amplified. Low-power electromagnetic signals can then create strong curvature and torsion fields, forming a controllable “warp bubble” around the craft. This explains UAP reports of instant high acceleration, hypersonic speeds without sonic booms or heat, and other extreme maneuvers — all using relatively little energy. Why It Matters Sarfatti’s theory treats UAP propulsion as real, engineerable technology based on extensions of mainstream physics rather than exotic new forces. It also links to bigger cosmic questions, suggesting dark energy and dark matter may arise from similar vacuum torsion effects. In short: UAP likely work by using smart materials and quantum coherence to manipulate gravity and spacetime torsion at low power.

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x.com/i/grok/share/c… GROK:What is your real name MinuteofZombie? Teleparallel gravity is stupid in my opinion. It throws the UAP Baby out with the bathwater. You have wasted your time on it. It is based on the stupid idea that Einstein’s 1915 GR is the complete story. Einstein knew that was not true in his “Marble - Wood” http://comment. My point is that disclination curvature SO(1,3), torsion T4, Rindler horizon conformal accelerations, dilations are FOUR independent dynamical fields. The physically real compensating connection gauge potential 1-form is A(Sarfatti’s UAP model - spacetime sector) = JabW^a^b + Pae^a + Kak^a + Kk Pae^a is 100% negative helicity Kak^a is 100& positive helicity. This explains why the massless neutrino is negative helicity from violation of Coleman-Mandula in the Sarfatti post-quantum non-unitary action-reaction where “ghosts” and “anomalies” are welcome new physics in “dissipative structures” (Prigogine —> Frohlich) [Jab = - Jba, a,b = 0,1,2,3 LIF (FREEFO) with u,v … LNIF (FIDO) Tetrads in LIF e^a, Tetrads in LNIF e^u = e^uae^a W^a^b = spin connection —> Levi -Civita connection when torsion T*a = 0 in the Kibble limit. A(Kibble Poincare) = JabW^a^b + Pae^a D = d + A/\ Torsion T^a = De^a = de^a + A(Kibble-Poincare)/\e^a = 0 gives Einstein 1915 GR that is a BIG MISTAKE. I mean GR CANNOT EXPLAIN UAPS This is THE SARFATTI ANZATZ! In fact T^a = (G*/c^3)S^a Where S^a is the coherent spin condensate Proca axial vector 100% L-H from the effective field “More is different” chiral space-time metamaterial Lagrangian. Ansatz, and the UAP interpretation—but it is explicitly formulated with clear field equations, generators, and predictions. That makes it discussable and, in principle, testable (metamaterial experiments, precision torsion searches, chirality of Hawking-like radiation if accessible). G* ~ 10^43G for electron spins. It's 10^-6 weaker for nucleon spins. GROK wrote: Whether it ultimately explains UAPs or modifies our understanding of gravity and chirality will depend on whether the effective theory survives detailed derivation from a microscopic model and confronts experiment. It is a serious attempt to do “more is different” physics at the gravity-matter interface. Interesting and worth following mathematically, even if the UAP link stays hypothetical for now. Jack Sarfatti’s proposal is a bold, mathematically explicit extension of gauge-theoretic gravity that aims to unify curvature, torsion, and conformal degrees of freedom while providing a framework for “metric engineering” in coherent matter—motivated by UAP observations and chiral phenomena like neutrino helicity. Core of the Ansatz Sarfatti starts from the well-established Poincaré gauge theory (PGT) of Kibble (and earlier Utiyama, Sciama, etc.), which locally gauges the 10-parameter Poincaré group (Lorentz rotations SO(1,3) + translations T(4)). This yields:) — “disclination” defects, sourced mainly by energy-momentum. Curvature (Riemann-Cartan, from the spin connectionW^{ab}) — “dislocation” gaps, sourced by spin density. Torsion T^a = D e^a(from the tetrade^aIn the torsion-free limit this recovers Einstein’s 1915 GR (Levi-Civita connection). Sarfatti’s version adds the remaining generators of the 15-parameter conformal group SO(2,4) ≅ SU(2,2): A = J_{ab} W^{a b} + P_a e^a + K_a k^a + Kk (Your notation matches closely; the k^aand scalar (k) are the gauge potentials for special conformal transformations and dilations.) The full covariant derivative is D = d + A \wedge, curvature F = DA, etc. The four independent dynamical fields he highlights (disclination curvature, torsion, Rindler-horizon conformal accelerations, and dilations) correspond to the independent sectors of this enlarged connection. He decomposes the vector-like parts chirally in a Dirac-matrix representation of the generators:). P_a e^a(translations/torsion sector) is 100% negative helicity (left-handed projector\sim \gamma^a (1 - \gamma^5)). K_a k^a(special conformal/Rindler sector) is 100% positive helicity (right-handed projector\sim \gamma^a (1 + \gamma^5) This built-in chirality is his key move for explaining why massless neutrinos are purely left-handed (negative helicity). It arises geometrically from the gauge structure rather than (or in addition to) the Standard Model’s chiral weak interactions. He links this to an effective violation (or circumvention) of the Coleman-Mandula theorem in a post-quantum, non-unitary framework involving action-reaction (in the spirit of Bohm, Sutherland, and weak-value back-reaction). In open, dissipative systems (“Prigogine dissipative structures,” Fröhlich condensates), “ghosts” and anomalies are not bugs but features of the emergent effective theory. His central physical Ansatz is T^a = \frac{G^*}{c^3} S^a, where S^a is the axial-vector spin current from a coherent spin condensate (Proca-like massive axial vector, 100% left-handed) in a “chiral spacetime metamaterial” effective Lagrangian. “More is different” (Anderson) enters via coarse-graining: inside pumped metamaterials the microscopic symmetries break, effective couplings become material-dependent (G^*enhanced relative to Newton’s (G)), and torsion becomes dynamical/propagating (Proca-Yukawa-Meissner-like behavior). This is supposed to enable low-power control of spacetime geometry—warp bubbles, inertialess acceleration, transmedium travel—without exotic negative energy. Strengths and Context in Known Physics This sits in a legitimate research lineage:Einstein-Cartan theory already couples torsion to spin. Metric-affine and Poincaré gauge theories treat curvature and torsion as independent. Conformal/Weyl gravity (gauging dilations + special conformal transformations) has been studied for renormalizability and scale invariance (higher-derivative actions, ghosts, etc.). The chiral decomposition of generators in the Dirac representation is standard and naturally encodes parity violation. Analog gravity and metamaterial models show how condensed-matter systems can mimic curved spacetime or modified propagation. The emphasis on emergent effective field theory inside dispersive, pumped, nonequilibrium matter (Floquet-driven Fröhlich condensates) is a reasonable way to get enhanced couplings and propagating torsion without violating vacuum GR far from the material. The link to Rindler horizons and Unruh-like effects via the conformal sector is also physically motivated. Points of Tension and Open Questions Torsion dynamics: In minimal Einstein-Cartan, torsion is algebraic (non-propagating). Sarfatti needs quadratic or higher terms in the action (or the condensate) to make it dynamical/Proca-like. This is doable but must be specified consistently with the full SO(2,4) action. Coleman-Mandula and non-unitarity: The theorem applies to unitary representations of the Poincaré group in flat-space relativistic QFT with a mass gap. Supersymmetry already provides a controlled extension. Sarfatti’s post-quantum, dissipative, back-reaction framework (non-unitary evolution, weak-value action-reaction) is outside standard unitary QM/QFT. It can be formulated consistently in open quantum systems (Lindblad, etc.), but one must show it avoids superluminal signaling or other inconsistencies while recovering unitary QM in the appropriate limit. This is the most speculative part. Neutrino helicity: The Standard Model already explains it via chiral gauge couplings. A geometric origin from the translation sector of an extended gravity theory is an interesting alternative or complementary story, but it is not required by data. UAP / metric engineering: This is the application layer. The math is coherent as an effective theory inside engineered matter, but it assumes UAPs (e.g., Tic-Tac observables) are real advanced technology using precisely this mechanism. That remains an extraordinary claim without independently verified hardware or signals. Lab tests of metamaterial-enhanced torsion or modified gravity-like effects would be the cleanest way to probe the Ansatz. Hawking radiation prediction (from his related statements): 100% right-handed (positive helicity) is a sharp, falsifiable claim tied to the conformal sector dominating near horizons. Bottom Line Sarfatti’s framework is a “radical conservative” synthesis: it takes standard gauge principles (Noether’s theorems, local compensating connections, Cartan geometry) and enlarges the symmetry group while introducing material-dependent effective couplings and non-equilibrium coherence. The chiral decomposition of the connection is elegant and directly addresses helicity. The metamaterial/dissipative-structure angle provides a plausible route to laboratory-scale http://effects. It is speculative—especially the post-quantum non-unitary elements, the specific G^* Missileman’s point is that these ideas have a long, established pedigree in gauge-theoretic extensions of GR. Minimal ECSK has non-propagating torsion (effects confined near spin sources); generalized models (quadratic PGT, metric-affine, conformal extensions) can have propagating torsion suitable for longer-range or engineered effects. He is not claiming priority on specific UAP models but pointing to this technical history. If you have specific paper titles, DOIs, or more context from the thread, I can dig deeper (e.g., exact arXiv links or PDFs). Sarfatti asked for papers from Missileman/McGwier—none from McGwier turned up in public searches, and Missileman’s output appears to be the X discussions + referenced literature above rather than new peer-reviewed papers. The Vargas-Torr corpus and Popławski’s body of work are the most directly cited foundations.Missileman is@MinuteofZombie(Jack / “Jack AKA Missileman”) on X. He is a defense-industry rocket scientist/engineer with a BS in mathematics, MS in aerospace engineering, and ongoing PhD work in materials science focused on topological materials and metamaterials. He has ~16 years in defense/space propulsion R&D and has been active in UAP/UFO physics discussions since ~2022 (including SOL and SCU events). He has collaborated on or contributed to American Alchemy interviews (e.g., with Eric Davis). His X bio sometimes notes “possibly a pseudonym,” and he uses the Missileman persona in these circles. He frequently discusses torsion gravity, Vargas-Torr work, Ning Li, metric engineering, and related topics. He does not appear to have publicly available peer-reviewed physics papers under this name (consistent with an applied engineer/PhD student profile). His contributions in this thread are informed commentary, references to the historical literature, and discussions of experimental ideas (e.g., the Deep Tech Week paper he presented, proofed by Bob McGwier, on designing spin-torsion experiments in condensates/metamaterials for@Andercotand others). No widely indexed published paper from that event turned up in searches.Papers and Works Referenced or in the Lineage Missileman CitesMissileman highlights his long study (since ~2012) of Vargas & Torr’s ECSK-derived teleparallelism work and applications to novel condensates, plus the broader historical chain from Cartan/Sciama/Kibble/Utiyama/Hehl through propagating-torsion models (quadratic Poincaré gauge gravity, metric-affine gravity). He distinguishes minimal ECSK (non-propagating, algebraic torsion) from generalized models with propagating torsion degrees of freedom, which are more relevant for engineering applications. He also references Popławski’s extensive ECSK cosmology work and notes Ray Chiao’s historical contributions. 1. Core Vargas & Torr Papers (Teleparallelism / Cartan-Einstein Unification, Torsion Geometrizing Physics, Dirac Equation, etc.)These are the main works he studies and applies to condensates/spin density. Vargas and Torr collaborated for ~20 years at the University of Alabama in Huntsville; their ideas link torsion to EM unification and geometrization. José G. Vargas & Douglas G. Torr, “The Cartan-Einstein Unification with Teleparallelism and the Discrepant Measurements of Newton’s Constant G,” Foundations of Physics 29(2), 145–200 (1999). (Frequently cited; discusses torsion field equations containing Maxwell-like terms.) José G. Vargas, “Geometrization of the physics with teleparallelism. I. The classical interactions,” Foundations of Physics 22(4), 507–526 (1992). José G. Vargas, Douglas G. Torr & Alvaro Lecompte, “Geometrization of the physics with teleparallelism. II. Towards a fully geometric Dirac equation,” Foundations of Physics 22(4), 527–547 (1992). José G. Vargas & Douglas G. Torr, “Teleparallel Kähler Calculus for Spacetime,” Foundations of Physics 28(6), 931–958 (1998). Related earlier/later works: Vargas & Torr on torsion in Finslerian worlds (Gen. Relativ. Gravit. 27, 629–644, 1995) and related papers on geometrization of electrodynamics via torsion. Related applications appear in patents (e.g., field converters referencing the 1999 paper for torsion-EM coupling and “Vargas/Torr cells”). 2. Foundational Historical Papers (Gauge Theory of Spacetime Symmetries, Spin-Torsion)R. Utiyama, “Invariant theoretical interpretation of interaction,” Phys. Rev. 101, 1597 (1956). T.W.B. Kibble, “Lorentz invariance and the gravitational field,” J. Math. Phys. 2, 212 (1961). (Poincaré gauge theory / PGT foundation; local gauging of translations + Lorentz rotations → curvature + independent torsion.) D.W. Sciama’s papers on the analogy between charge and spin in GR (early 1960s; Sciama-Kibble framework). F.W. Hehl and collaborators on metric-affine gravity and Poincaré gauge theory (1970s onward; e.g., Hehl, Nitsch, von der Heyde on quadratic Lagrangians). Dirac spinors as canonical sources of torsion in Einstein-Cartan theory is standard textbook material (spin density sources torsion; induced spin-spin contact interaction). 3. Propagating Torsion in Quadratic Poincaré Gauge Gravity (1970s–1980s+; Sezgin, van Nieuwenhuizen, Neville, Nitsch, etc.) These allow dynamical (propagating) torsion fields, unlike minimal ECSK. Missileman notes these are key for engineering applications beyond nuclear-scale effects.E. Sezgin & P. van Nieuwenhuizen, “New ghost-free gravity Lagrangians with propagating torsion,” Phys. Rev. D 21, 3269–3280 (1980). E. Sezgin, “A class of ghost-free gravity Lagrangians with massive or massless propagating torsion,” Phys. Rev. D 24, 1677–1680 (1981). Yu.N. Obukhov, V.N. Ponomariev & V.V. Zhytnikov, “Quadratic Poincaré gauge theory of gravity: A comparison with the general relativity theory,” Gen. Relativ. Gravit. 21, 1107–1142 (1989). Related: D.W. Neville papers; works by J. Nitsch, Hayashi-Shirafuji, etc. (See reviews citing these for ghost-free quadratic models with propagating modes.) Later stability and exact-solution work exists on quadratic PGT models.4. Niko Popławski’s ECSK Cosmology PapersHe has 90+ publications computing cosmological consequences (black holes, big bounce instead of singularity, alternatives to inflation, dark energy/matter interpretations via torsion). Examples:Nikodem J. Popławski, “Cosmology with torsion: A n alternative to cosmic inflation,” Phys. Lett. B 694(3), 181–185 (2010), arXiv:1007.0587. Nikodem J. Popławski, “Nonsingular, big-bounce cosmology from spinor-torsion coupling,” Phys. Rev. D 85, 107502 (2012) (and related arXiv papers). Many more on arXiv under Popławski + torsion/ECSK.5. Other Mentions in Contex tRay Chiao: Historical contributions to gravity analogs in superconductors, metamaterials, and related effects (cited in broader gravity-modification literature). Eric Weinstein: Discussions of Geometric Unity potentially recovering torsional effects. Jack Sarfatti’s own works: E.g., arXiv:gr-qc/0602022 (“Emergent Gravity and Torsion...”, 2006) and later papers developing ECSUKS (Einstein-Cartan-Sciama-Utiyama-Kibble-Sarfatti) extensions, metric engineering, G* enhancements in materials, etc. Missileman references the broader lineage leading to these ideas. Deep Tech Week paper (presented by Missileman, proofed by McGwier): On experimental design for measuring spin-density contributions to torsion in novel condensates/metamaterials. Not a widely published arXiv/paper found; appears to be presented/internal work tied to the discussion with@Andercotand@MaxDerakhshani On Jul 2, 2026, at 1:23 PM, JACK SARFATTI @icloud.com> wrote:Re:x.com/MinuteofZombie… Missileman@MinuteofZombie·47m This is partly in reference to my discussion with@BobMcGwier_N4HYon@AmericanALCHMYre: my study of Vargas & Torr’s ECSK-derived work in teleparallelism since 2012 and the applications in novel condensates. A peace offering: When people use the shorthand “Einstein–Cartan” in this context, they often mean the broader torsionful gravitational lineage descending from Cartan, Sciama, Kibble, Utiyama, Hehl, and later Poincaré-gauge & metric affine gravity, not necessarily just minimal ECSK with strictly algebraic, non-propagating torsion. Your work contains likewise unique and novel elements that should be further developed mathematically and tested experimentally. I am not claiming priority over anyone’s particular UAP model or phenomenological ansatz. But the core ingredients being discussed here have a long technical pedigree. Torsional gravity as a gauge theory of spacetime symmetry goes back at least to Utiyama and Kibble; the Einstein-Cartan-Sciama-Kibble framework is the standard spin-torsion completion of GR; and propagating torsion was already being studied seriously in the 1970s and 1980s in quadratic Poincaré gauge gravity. Likewise, quantum spin sourced torsion comes from Paul Dirac. The Dirac field is the canonical spinor source in Einstein-Cartan theory, and the induced spin–spin/contact interaction is part of the standard literature. What Bob and I have discussed is that in that broader lineage: torsionful, gauge-gravity models, including possible propagating torsion sectors, there is a condensed matter ansatz of spin density contributions to be explored for novel measurement. I presented a paper at Deep Tech Week that Bob proofed, for@Andercot, on how to design such an experiment.@MaxDerakhshani had some very incisive theoretical points, he has a deep professional understanding of this problem. I’ve also spoken to@ericweinsteinabout EC models, he acknowledges it may be physically meaningful, and proposes that GU may recover torsional effects.@NikoPoplawskiis on the front lines and has 90+ publications computing cosmological consequences of ECSK to black hole formation and ΛCDM. This does not imply that anyone copied anyone else; it means there is an established historical and mathematical program here, which your colleague Ray Chiao has of course historically contributed as well. So the fair distinction is this: minimal ECSK has non-propagating torsion; and generalized Poincaré gauge, quadratic, metric affine, or conformal gauge models can contain propagating torsion degrees of freedom. These are generally necessary if you want engineering application out of your torsion model. Otherwise torsion effects never leave the nucleus. Colloquially calling these “Einstein–Cartan-type” models is common because EC is the historical entry point for spacetime torsion in gravitational physics, even when the specific model goes beyond minimal EC. That is why@Grokrecognizes the structure: because the literature already contains a deep historical chain from Cartan to Sciama/Kibble/Utiyama to Hehl to propagating torsion programs such as Sezgin, van Nieuwenhuizen, Neville, Nitsch… to Vargas, Torr,@MinuteofZombie I respondedLet’s see the papers you cite.I did not say that you said I got my idea from you. Bob McGwier insinuated that. For the record, this is the first time I had any inkling or Bob that you knew anything about gauge gravity. I have never seen a physics paper from either of you. If you have any send them now to jacksarfatti@icloud.com. I actually knew Kibble met him at Imperial in 1966. PS I also know a woman who grew up close to John Nash at Princeton - Bob mentioned Nash. He also mentioned Harald Malmgrem. I took his daughter Pippa to dinner at my London Club not that long ago. Did we meet at Sol 2024 in San Francisco? Did you do a video of me? Or, was that someone else. In any case, I never claimed to have invented gauge gravity, my claim is G*(QM spin-torsion) ~ 10^43G(Newton) for electrons in the spin - torsion coupling. My claim is this equation where I extend Einstein's 1915 microscopic equation to the interior of "space-time metamaterials" (Caloz, IEEE, arXiv) G*(Poincare)uv ~ (G(Newton)n^4/c^4)Tuv + (G*(QM spin-torsion/c^3)^2n^6 S^2 guv n is effective field coarse-grained "index of refraction" Think of above as Fourier transforms in the weak field approximation - roughly speaking for now. Emmy Noether's theorems are broken inside matter at the coarse-grained IR effective field level pinned to the solid rest preferred frame in the sense of P. W. Anderson's "More is different." - answering Jose Rodal's wrong paper on this in arXiv. GROK wrote: Simplified Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics Jack Sarfatti proposes a physics-based explanation for how UAP (UFOs) achieve their extraordinary flight performance. He argues they use advanced “metric engineering” — basically warping or bending spacetime around the craft — to fly at high speeds with very low power. Core Foundations His ideas build on two established concepts in physics:Emmy Noether’s theorems (1918): These show that symmetries in nature lead to conservation laws (such as energy and momentum). When those symmetries are made “local” (varying by location), they require special compensating fields — similar to how electromagnetism works. Kibble’s Poincaré gauge gravity (1961): This extends Einstein’s general relativity by adding torsion — a twisting of spacetime caused by the spin of particles, in addition to the usual curvature caused by mass and energy. Sarfatti’s Key Additions for UAP Sarfatti extends these ideas into what he calls the ECSUKS framework. He focuses on how quantum spin (from particles like electrons) interacts with torsion in special engineered materials (metamaterials or layered hulls). In these materials, when matter is put into a coherent quantum state (like synchronized waves or condensates), the gravitational effects become greatly amplified. Low-power electromagnetic signals can then create strong curvature and torsion fields, forming a controllable “warp bubble” around the craft.This explains UAP reports of instant high acceleration, hypersonic speeds without sonic booms or heat, and other extreme maneuvers — all using relatively little energy. Why It Matters Sarfatti’s theory treats UAP propulsion as real, engineerable technology based on extensions of mainstream physics rather than exotic new forces. It also links to bigger cosmic questions, suggesting dark energy and dark matter may arise from similar vacuum torsion effects. In short: UAP likely work by using smart materials and quantum coherence to manipulate gravity and spacetime torsion at low power .On Jul 2, 2026, at 11:27 AM, JACK SARFATTI @icloud.com> wrote: My apology for mis-spelling Bob McGwierFor the record: McGwier wrote today that he and Missileman Jack (that’s not me) were working on Einstein-Cartan theory insinuating I may have gotten the idea from him. That is false. I have never seen even one professional live physics paper from McGwier only emails and X.com posts. Also I am not using Einstein-Cartan. It’s more complex than their original paper with non-propagating torsion. GROK wrote:**Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics via Noether Theorems and Kibble’s Poincaré Gauge Gravity** Jack Sarfatti’s framework explains UAP propulsion (“metric engineering”) as controllable spacetime curvature and torsion generated in engineered materials, extending Einstein’s general relativity through local gauge theory of spacetime symmetries. It rests on Emmy Noether’s 1918 theorems and Tom Kibble’s 1961 Poincaré gauge theory (PGT), remaining “radical conservative” by recovering standard unitary quantum field theory (QFT) and GR in closed-system limits while accommodating open, dissipative macro-quantum effects observed in UAP data.

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x.com/i/grok/share/c… GROK:What is your real name MinuteofZombie? Teleparallel gravity is stupid in my opinion. It throws the UAP Baby out with the bathwater. You have wasted your time on it. It is based on the stupid idea that Einstein’s 1915 GR is the complete story. Einstein knew that was not true in his “Marble - Wood” http://comment. My point is that disclination curvature SO(1,3), torsion T4, Rindler horizon conformal accelerations, dilations are FOUR independent dynamical fields. The physically real compensating connection gauge potential 1-form is A(Sarfatti’s UAP model - spacetime sector) = JabW^a^b + Pae^a + Kak^a + Kk Pae^a is 100% negative helicity Kak^a is 100& positive helicity. This explains why the massless neutrino is negative helicity from violation of Coleman-Mandula in the Sarfatti post-quantum non-unitary action-reaction where “ghosts” and “anomalies” are welcome new physics in “dissipative structures” (Prigogine —> Frohlich) [Jab = - Jba, a,b = 0,1,2,3 LIF (FREEFO) with u,v … LNIF (FIDO) Tetrads in LIF e^a, Tetrads in LNIF e^u = e^uae^a W^a^b = spin connection —> Levi -Civita connection when torsion T*a = 0 in the Kibble limit. A(Kibble Poincare) = JabW^a^b + Pae^a D = d + A/\ Torsion T^a = De^a = de^a + A(Kibble-Poincare)/\e^a = 0 gives Einstein 1915 GR that is a BIG MISTAKE. I mean GR CANNOT EXPLAIN UAPS This is THE SARFATTI ANZATZ! In fact T^a = (G*/c^3)S^a Where S^a is the coherent spin condensate Proca axial vector 100% L-H from the effective field “More is different” chiral space-time metamaterial Lagrangian. Ansatz, and the UAP interpretation—but it is explicitly formulated with clear field equations, generators, and predictions. That makes it discussable and, in principle, testable (metamaterial experiments, precision torsion searches, chirality of Hawking-like radiation if accessible). G* ~ 10^43G for electron spins. It's 10^-6 weaker for nucleon spins. GROK wrote: Whether it ultimately explains UAPs or modifies our understanding of gravity and chirality will depend on whether the effective theory survives detailed derivation from a microscopic model and confronts experiment. It is a serious attempt to do “more is different” physics at the gravity-matter interface. Interesting and worth following mathematically, even if the UAP link stays hypothetical for now. Jack Sarfatti’s proposal is a bold, mathematically explicit extension of gauge-theoretic gravity that aims to unify curvature, torsion, and conformal degrees of freedom while providing a framework for “metric engineering” in coherent matter—motivated by UAP observations and chiral phenomena like neutrino helicity. Core of the Ansatz Sarfatti starts from the well-established Poincaré gauge theory (PGT) of Kibble (and earlier Utiyama, Sciama, etc.), which locally gauges the 10-parameter Poincaré group (Lorentz rotations SO(1,3) + translations T(4)). This yields:) — “disclination” defects, sourced mainly by energy-momentum. Curvature (Riemann-Cartan, from the spin connectionW^{ab}) — “dislocation” gaps, sourced by spin density. Torsion T^a = D e^a(from the tetrade^aIn the torsion-free limit this recovers Einstein’s 1915 GR (Levi-Civita connection). Sarfatti’s version adds the remaining generators of the 15-parameter conformal group SO(2,4) ≅ SU(2,2): A = J_{ab} W^{a b} + P_a e^a + K_a k^a + Kk (Your notation matches closely; the k^aand scalar (k) are the gauge potentials for special conformal transformations and dilations.) The full covariant derivative is D = d + A \wedge, curvature F = DA, etc. The four independent dynamical fields he highlights (disclination curvature, torsion, Rindler-horizon conformal accelerations, and dilations) correspond to the independent sectors of this enlarged connection. He decomposes the vector-like parts chirally in a Dirac-matrix representation of the generators:). P_a e^a(translations/torsion sector) is 100% negative helicity (left-handed projector\sim \gamma^a (1 - \gamma^5)). K_a k^a(special conformal/Rindler sector) is 100% positive helicity (right-handed projector\sim \gamma^a (1 + \gamma^5) This built-in chirality is his key move for explaining why massless neutrinos are purely left-handed (negative helicity). It arises geometrically from the gauge structure rather than (or in addition to) the Standard Model’s chiral weak interactions. He links this to an effective violation (or circumvention) of the Coleman-Mandula theorem in a post-quantum, non-unitary framework involving action-reaction (in the spirit of Bohm, Sutherland, and weak-value back-reaction). In open, dissipative systems (“Prigogine dissipative structures,” Fröhlich condensates), “ghosts” and anomalies are not bugs but features of the emergent effective theory. His central physical Ansatz is T^a = \frac{G^*}{c^3} S^a, where S^a is the axial-vector spin current from a coherent spin condensate (Proca-like massive axial vector, 100% left-handed) in a “chiral spacetime metamaterial” effective Lagrangian. “More is different” (Anderson) enters via coarse-graining: inside pumped metamaterials the microscopic symmetries break, effective couplings become material-dependent (G^*enhanced relative to Newton’s (G)), and torsion becomes dynamical/propagating (Proca-Yukawa-Meissner-like behavior). This is supposed to enable low-power control of spacetime geometry—warp bubbles, inertialess acceleration, transmedium travel—without exotic negative energy. Strengths and Context in Known Physics This sits in a legitimate research lineage:Einstein-Cartan theory already couples torsion to spin. Metric-affine and Poincaré gauge theories treat curvature and torsion as independent. Conformal/Weyl gravity (gauging dilations + special conformal transformations) has been studied for renormalizability and scale invariance (higher-derivative actions, ghosts, etc.). The chiral decomposition of generators in the Dirac representation is standard and naturally encodes parity violation. Analog gravity and metamaterial models show how condensed-matter systems can mimic curved spacetime or modified propagation. The emphasis on emergent effective field theory inside dispersive, pumped, nonequilibrium matter (Floquet-driven Fröhlich condensates) is a reasonable way to get enhanced couplings and propagating torsion without violating vacuum GR far from the material. The link to Rindler horizons and Unruh-like effects via the conformal sector is also physically motivated. Points of Tension and Open Questions Torsion dynamics: In minimal Einstein-Cartan, torsion is algebraic (non-propagating). Sarfatti needs quadratic or higher terms in the action (or the condensate) to make it dynamical/Proca-like. This is doable but must be specified consistently with the full SO(2,4) action. Coleman-Mandula and non-unitarity: The theorem applies to unitary representations of the Poincaré group in flat-space relativistic QFT with a mass gap. Supersymmetry already provides a controlled extension. Sarfatti’s post-quantum, dissipative, back-reaction framework (non-unitary evolution, weak-value action-reaction) is outside standard unitary QM/QFT. It can be formulated consistently in open quantum systems (Lindblad, etc.), but one must show it avoids superluminal signaling or other inconsistencies while recovering unitary QM in the appropriate limit. This is the most speculative part. Neutrino helicity: The Standard Model already explains it via chiral gauge couplings. A geometric origin from the translation sector of an extended gravity theory is an interesting alternative or complementary story, but it is not required by data. UAP / metric engineering: This is the application layer. The math is coherent as an effective theory inside engineered matter, but it assumes UAPs (e.g., Tic-Tac observables) are real advanced technology using precisely this mechanism. That remains an extraordinary claim without independently verified hardware or signals. Lab tests of metamaterial-enhanced torsion or modified gravity-like effects would be the cleanest way to probe the Ansatz. Hawking radiation prediction (from his related statements): 100% right-handed (positive helicity) is a sharp, falsifiable claim tied to the conformal sector dominating near horizons. Bottom Line Sarfatti’s framework is a “radical conservative” synthesis: it takes standard gauge principles (Noether’s theorems, local compensating connections, Cartan geometry) and enlarges the symmetry group while introducing material-dependent effective couplings and non-equilibrium coherence. The chiral decomposition of the connection is elegant and directly addresses helicity. The metamaterial/dissipative-structure angle provides a plausible route to laboratory-scale http://effects. It is speculative—especially the post-quantum non-unitary elements, the specific G^* Missileman’s point is that these ideas have a long, established pedigree in gauge-theoretic extensions of GR. Minimal ECSK has non-propagating torsion (effects confined near spin sources); generalized models (quadratic PGT, metric-affine, conformal extensions) can have propagating torsion suitable for longer-range or engineered effects. He is not claiming priority on specific UAP models but pointing to this technical history. If you have specific paper titles, DOIs, or more context from the thread, I can dig deeper (e.g., exact arXiv links or PDFs). Sarfatti asked for papers from Missileman/McGwier—none from McGwier turned up in public searches, and Missileman’s output appears to be the X discussions + referenced literature above rather than new peer-reviewed papers. The Vargas-Torr corpus and Popławski’s body of work are the most directly cited foundations. Missileman is@MinuteofZombie(Jack / “Jack AKA Missileman”) on X. He is a defense-industry rocket scientist/engineer with a BS in mathematics, MS in aerospace engineering, and ongoing PhD work in materials science focused on topological materials and metamaterials. He has ~16 years in defense/space propulsion R&D and has been active in UAP/UFO physics discussions since ~2022 (including SOL and SCU events). He has collaborated on or contributed to American Alchemy interviews (e.g., with Eric Davis). His X bio sometimes notes “possibly a pseudonym,” and he uses the Missileman persona in these circles. He frequently discusses torsion gravity, Vargas-Torr work, Ning Li, metric engineering, and related topics. He does not appear to have publicly available peer-reviewed physics papers under this name (consistent with an applied engineer/PhD student profile). His contributions in this thread are informed commentary, references to the historical literature, and discussions of experimental ideas (e.g., the Deep Tech Week paper he presented, proofed by Bob McGwier, on designing spin-torsion experiments in condensates/metamaterials for@Andercotand others). No widely indexed published paper from that event turned up in searches.Papers and Works Referenced or in the Lineage Missileman CitesMissileman highlights his long study (since ~2012) of Vargas & Torr’s ECSK-derived teleparallelism work and applications to novel condensates, plus the broader historical chain from Cartan/Sciama/Kibble/Utiyama/Hehl through propagating-torsion models (quadratic Poincaré gauge gravity, metric-affine gravity). He distinguishes minimal ECSK (non-propagating, algebraic torsion) from generalized models with propagating torsion degrees of freedom, which are more relevant for engineering applications. He also references Popławski’s extensive ECSK cosmology work and notes Ray Chiao’s historical contributions. 1. Core Vargas & Torr Papers (Teleparallelism / Cartan-Einstein Unification, Torsion Geometrizing Physics, Dirac Equation, etc.)These are the main works he studies and applies to condensates/spin density. Vargas and Torr collaborated for ~20 years at the University of Alabama in Huntsville; their ideas link torsion to EM unification and geometrization. José G. Vargas & Douglas G. Torr, “The Cartan-Einstein Unification with Teleparallelism and the Discrepant Measurements of Newton’s Constant G,” Foundations of Physics 29(2), 145–200 (1999). (Frequently cited; discusses torsion field equations containing Maxwell-like terms.) José G. Vargas, “Geometrization of the physics with teleparallelism. I. The classical interactions,” Foundations of Physics 22(4), 507–526 (1992). José G. Vargas, Douglas G. Torr & Alvaro Lecompte, “Geometrization of the physics with teleparallelism. II. Towards a fully geometric Dirac equation,” Foundations of Physics 22(4), 527–547 (1992). José G. Vargas & Douglas G. Torr, “Teleparallel Kähler Calculus for Spacetime,” Foundations of Physics 28(6), 931–958 (1998). Related earlier/later works: Vargas & Torr on torsion in Finslerian worlds (Gen. Relativ. Gravit. 27, 629–644, 1995) and related papers on geometrization of electrodynamics via torsion. Related applications appear in patents (e.g., field converters referencing the 1999 paper for torsion-EM coupling and “Vargas/Torr cells”). 2. Foundational Historical Papers (Gauge Theory of Spacetime Symmetries, Spin-Torsion)R. Utiyama, “Invariant theoretical interpretation of interaction,” Phys. Rev. 101, 1597 (1956). T.W.B. Kibble, “Lorentz invariance and the gravitational field,” J. Math. Phys. 2, 212 (1961). (Poincaré gauge theory / PGT foundation; local gauging of translations + Lorentz rotations → curvature + independent torsion.) D.W. Sciama’s papers on the analogy between charge and spin in GR (early 1960s; Sciama-Kibble framework). F.W. Hehl and collaborators on metric-affine gravity and Poincaré gauge theory (1970s onward; e.g., Hehl, Nitsch, von der Heyde on quadratic Lagrangians). Dirac spinors as canonical sources of torsion in Einstein-Cartan theory is standard textbook material (spin density sources torsion; induced spin-spin contact interaction). 3. Propagating Torsion in Quadratic Poincaré Gauge Gravity (1970s–1980s+; Sezgin, van Nieuwenhuizen, Neville, Nitsch, etc.) These allow dynamical (propagating) torsion fields, unlike minimal ECSK. Missileman notes these are key for engineering applications beyond nuclear-scale effects.E. Sezgin & P. van Nieuwenhuizen, “New ghost-free gravity Lagrangians with propagating torsion,” Phys. Rev. D 21, 3269–3280 (1980). E. Sezgin, “A class of ghost-free gravity Lagrangians with massive or massless propagating torsion,” Phys. Rev. D 24, 1677–1680 (1981). Yu.N. Obukhov, V.N. Ponomariev & V.V. Zhytnikov, “Quadratic Poincaré gauge theory of gravity: A comparison with the general relativity theory,” Gen. Relativ. Gravit. 21, 1107–1142 (1989). Related: D.W. Neville papers; works by J. Nitsch, Hayashi-Shirafuji, etc. (See reviews citing these for ghost-free quadratic models with propagating modes.) Later stability and exact-solution work exists on quadratic PGT models.4. Niko Popławski’s ECSK Cosmology PapersHe has 90+ publications computing cosmological consequences (black holes, big bounce instead of singularity, alternatives to inflation, dark energy/matter interpretations via torsion). Examples:Nikodem J. Popławski, “Cosmology with torsion: An alternative to cosmic inflation,” Phys. Lett. B 694(3), 181–185 (2010), arXiv:1007.0587. Nikodem J. Popławski, “Nonsingular, big-bounce cosmology from spinor-torsion coupling,” Phys. Rev. D 85, 107502 (2012) (and related arXiv papers). Many more on arXiv under Popławski + torsion/ECSK.5. Other Mentions in Contex tRay Chiao: Historical contributions to gravity analogs in superconductors, metamaterials, and related effects (cited in broader gravity-modification literature). Eric Weinstein: Discussions of Geometric Unity potentially recovering torsional effects. Jack Sarfatti’s own works: E.g., arXiv:gr-qc/0602022 (“Emergent Gravity and Torsion...”, 2006) and later papers developing ECSUKS (Einstein-Cartan-Sciama-Utiyama-Kibble-Sarfatti) extensions, metric engineering, G* enhancements in materials, etc. Missileman references the broader lineage leading to these ideas. Deep Tech Week paper (presented by Missileman, proofed by McGwier): On experimental design for measuring spin-density contributions to torsion in novel condensates/metamaterials. Not a widely published arXiv/paper found; appears to be presented/internal work tied to the discussion with@Andercotand@MaxDerakhshani On Jul 2, 2026, at 1:23 PM, JACK SARFATTI @icloud.com> wrote:Re:x.com/MinuteofZombie… Missileman@MinuteofZombie·47m This is partly in reference to my discussion with@BobMcGwier_N4HYon@AmericanALCHMYre: my study of Vargas & Torr’s ECSK-derived work in teleparallelism since 2012 and the applications in novel condensates. A peace offering: When people use the shorthand “Einstein–Cartan” in this context, they often mean the broader torsionful gravitational lineage descending from Cartan, Sciama, Kibble, Utiyama, Hehl, and later Poincaré-gauge & metric affine gravity, not necessarily just minimal ECSK with strictly algebraic, non-propagating torsion. Your work contains likewise unique and novel elements that should be further developed mathematically and tested experimentally. I am not claiming priority over anyone’s particular UAP model or phenomenological ansatz. But the core ingredients being discussed here have a long technical pedigree. Torsional gravity as a gauge theory of spacetime symmetry goes back at least to Utiyama and Kibble; the Einstein-Cartan-Sciama-Kibble framework is the standard spin-torsion completion of GR; and propagating torsion was already being studied seriously in the 1970s and 1980s in quadratic Poincaré gauge gravity. Likewise, quantum spin sourced torsion comes from Paul Dirac. The Dirac field is the canonical spinor source in Einstein-Cartan theory, and the induced spin–spin/contact interaction is part of the standard literature. What Bob and I have discussed is that in that broader lineage: torsionful, gauge-gravity models, including possible propagating torsion sectors, there is a condensed matter ansatz of spin density contributions to be explored for novel measurement. I presented a paper at Deep Tech Week that Bob proofed, for@Andercot, on how to design such an experiment.@MaxDerakhshani had some very incisive theoretical points, he has a deep professional understanding of this problem. I’ve also spoken to@ericweinsteinabout EC models, he acknowledges it may be physically meaningful, and proposes that GU may recover torsional effects.@NikoPoplawskiis on the front lines and has 90+ publications computing cosmological consequences of ECSK to black hole formation and ΛCDM. This does not imply that anyone copied anyone else; it means there is an established historical and mathematical program here, which your colleague Ray Chiao has of course historically contributed as well. So the fair distinction is this: minimal ECSK has non-propagating torsion; and generalized Poincaré gauge, quadratic, metric affine, or conformal gauge models can contain propagating torsion degrees of freedom. These are generally necessary if you want engineering application out of your torsion model. Otherwise torsion effects never leave the nucleus. Colloquially calling these “Einstein–Cartan-type” models is common because EC is the historical entry point for spacetime torsion in gravitational physics, even when the specific model goes beyond minimal EC. That is why@Grokrecognizes the structure: because the literature already contains a deep historical chain from Cartan to Sciama/Kibble/Utiyama to Hehl to propagating torsion programs such as Sezgin, van Nieuwenhuizen, Neville, Nitsch… to Vargas, Torr,@MinuteofZombie I respondedLet’s see the papers you cite.I did not say that you said I got my idea from you. Bob McGwier insinuated that. For the record, this is the first time I had any inkling or Bob that you knew anything about gauge gravity. I have never seen a physics paper from either of you. If you have any send them now to jacksarfatti@icloud.com. I actually knew Kibble met him at Imperial in 1966. PS I also know a woman who grew up close to John Nash at Princeton - Bob mentioned Nash. He also mentioned Harald Malmgrem. I took his daughter Pippa to dinner at my London Club not that long ago. Did we meet at Sol 2024 in San Francisco? Did you do a video of me? Or, was that someone else. In any case, I never claimed to have invented gauge gravity, my claim is G*(QM spin-torsion) ~ 10^43G(Newton) for electrons in the spin - torsion coupling. My claim is this equation where I extend Einstein's 1915 microscopic equation to the interior of "space-time metamaterials" (Caloz, IEEE, arXiv) G*(Poincare)uv ~ (G(Newton)n^4/c^4)Tuv + (G*(QM spin-torsion/c^3)^2n^6 S^2 guv n is effective field coarse-grained "index of refraction" Think of above as Fourier transforms in the weak field approximation - roughly speaking for now. Emmy Noether's theorems are broken inside matter at the coarse-grained IR effective field level pinned to the solid rest preferred frame in the sense of P. W. Anderson's "More is different." - answering Jose Rodal's wrong paper on this in arXiv. GROK wrote: Simplified Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics Jack Sarfatti proposes a physics-based explanation for how UAP (UFOs) achieve their extraordinary flight performance. He argues they use advanced “metric engineering” — basically warping or bending spacetime around the craft — to fly at high speeds with very low power. Core Foundations His ideas build on two established concepts in physics:Emmy Noether’s theorems (1918): These show that symmetries in nature lead to conservation laws (such as energy and momentum). When those symmetries are made “local” (varying by location), they require special compensating fields — similar to how electromagnetism works. Kibble’s Poincaré gauge gravity (1961): This extends Einstein’s general relativity by adding torsion — a twisting of spacetime caused by the spin of particles, in addition to the usual curvature caused by mass and energy. Sarfatti’s Key Additions for UAP Sarfatti extends these ideas into what he calls the ECSUKS framework. He focuses on how quantum spin (from particles like electrons) interacts with torsion in special engineered materials (metamaterials or layered hulls). In these materials, when matter is put into a coherent quantum state (like synchronized waves or condensates), the gravitational effects become greatly amplified. Low-power electromagnetic signals can then create strong curvature and torsion fields, forming a controllable “warp bubble” around the craft.This explains UAP reports of instant high acceleration, hypersonic speeds without sonic booms or heat, and other extreme maneuvers — all using relatively little energy. Why It Matters Sarfatti’s theory treats UAP propulsion as real, engineerable technology based on extensions of mainstream physics rather than exotic new forces. It also links to bigger cosmic questions, suggesting dark energy and dark matter may arise from similar vacuum torsion effects. In short: UAP likely work by using smart materials and quantum coherence to manipulate gravity and spacetime torsion at low power .On Jul 2, 2026, at 11:27 AM, JACK SARFATTI @icloud.com> wrote: My apology for mis-spelling Bob McGwierFor the record: McGwier wrote today that he and Missileman Jack (that’s not me) were working on Einstein-Cartan theory insinuating I may have gotten the idea from him. That is false. I have never seen even one professional live physics paper from McGwier only emails and X.com posts. Also I am not using Einstein-Cartan. It’s more complex than their original paper with non-propagating torsion. GROK wrote: **Executive Summary: Jack Sarfatti’s UAP Physics via Noether Theorems and Kibble’s Poincaré Gauge Gravity** Jack Sarfatti’s framework explains UAP propulsion (“metric engineering”) as controllable spacetime curvature and torsion generated in engineered materials, extending Einstein’s general relativity through local gauge theory of spacetime symmetries. It rests on Emmy Noether’s 1918 theorems and Tom Kibble’s 1961 Poincaré gauge theory (PGT), remaining “radical conservative” by recovering standard unitary quantum field theory (QFT) and GR in closed-system limits while accommodating open, dissipative macro-quantum effects observed in UAP data.

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