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@BecomingCritter never heard a convincing argument for why even a single dollar should be redistributed centrally
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this really put into perspective for me how terrible wealth redistribution is
they/them might be giants ☭@babadookspinoza
If we liquidated Elon Musk as a financial entity we could each pocket $3,000. Just putting that out there. 3K. Not bad.
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@tom777kruise Imagine writing the Diversity Myth in 1995, being ignored, and having to wait 25 years to see the shitshow culminate.
I get why he wants to live forever.
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@tom777kruise Peter Thiel is actually a cutiepie but he doesn't know how to present to the masses and so they hate him
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@cremieuxrecueil You cannot have a society with both pay-as-you-go fiscal transfers to the old and monetary policy that inflates the assets they disproportionately own.
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I disagree.
I think we should STOP doing this.
Nancy Mace@NancyMace
Our seniors should not pay property taxes.
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The argument here is from the Orthodox perspective but it applies equally to Catholicism and the Catholic Church, which looks to be participating in the alignment discourse.
The problems:
1) Transhumanism/AI will be disordered if you are Orthodox/Catholic, misaligned if you are a Rationalist, unless grounded in a coherent moral philosophy.
2) The people attempting to develop and politically implement this moral philosophy are, from the limited info I gather from their X footprint, amateur zeitgeist liberals not thinking at the appropriate level of philosophical abstraction.
3) The people who should have the expertise and credibility to be working on this moral philosophy are anti-technology EuroBoomers in ossified religious institutions. They are no longer interested in or capable of the mysticism that once made them admirable institutions and that is a prerequisite for such moral innovations. We do not have a modern St. Thomas Aquinas or St. Gregory Palamas, not even close.
It is possible to integrate technological advancement in Catholic/Orthodox doctrine. I would argue it's necessary in the Western context. When one allows no space for the divine, or otherwise presently mysterious mechanisms, an epistemic arrogance develops. The word "Rationalist" alone is sufficient evidence. "Transhumanism" as a term also has an unnecessarily arrogant valence and as such has terrible public perception. The normie, on some level, detects these prideful connotations and is instinctually disgusted. Why even bother with the term? It's merely the continuation of technological progress. There is no reason to be self-important.
Agros@Agros333
Transhumanism is the enhancement of the human through technological means and has no place for the uncreated, which is a hard requirement in Theosis doctrine via participation in the uncreated divine energies. Theosis doctrine recommends asceticism to "receive" salvation (somewhat similar to Eastern theologies). Transhumanism is entirely self-dependent, unless we come up with a convoluted theology where we must act in accordance with the whims of e.g. Roko's Basilisk. But even the Basilisk would be created rather than uncreated and so there would still be a theological conflict.
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@inklight22 @ArtemisConsort TLDR: Theosis requires participation in the uncreated, Transhumanism doesn't.
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Transhumanism is the enhancement of the human through technological means and has no place for the uncreated, which is a hard requirement in Theosis doctrine via participation in the uncreated divine energies.
Theosis doctrine recommends asceticism to "receive" salvation (somewhat similar to Eastern theologies). Transhumanism is entirely self-dependent, unless we come up with a convoluted theology where we must act in accordance with the whims of e.g. Roko's Basilisk. But even the Basilisk would be created rather than uncreated and so there would still be a theological conflict.
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@inklight22 @ArtemisConsort Deification is doctrinally not attained through material.
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@Agros333 @ArtemisConsort I don't see any part of theosis doctrine that doesn't align with transhumanism, and therefore, I see no reason to 'reform' it.
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Trans people are murdered at a lower rate than non-trans people. So many people are living in an entirely fake nightmare world. If you’re going to make up your own reality, why not a pleasant one?
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@minordissent @FondOfBeetles Blue is anti-social unless they get >50%. They're getting 55% in a Twitter poll with no stakes and with a WEIRD sampling bias. Beyond cooked.
>What if my child votes blue?
What if they vote red?
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i would LOVE for blue to win. But all the polls have blue just barely winning which is actually just further evidence blue is suicide. When the time really comes, they will have every intention of pushing blue but then like half will chicken out and press red. Meaning it’s going to be like 30% blue at best. Probably more like 20% when you factor in that most of the world’s population is 3rd world retards who wouldn’t know prosocial behavior if it stabbed them in the chest. Yes, some people will die. Even some you love. But pressing blue will not save them. it will just kill you along with them.
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Reds are really annoyed that every single poll shows blues are gonna be fine, huh?
How long does it keep repeating before they re-examine their priors?
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@xenocosmography @Pacozza_libre "High trust" is being misrepresented as the compulsive urge to select, on an individual level, negative EV, existentially costly choices that appear vaguely pro-social but in actuality do nothing but burden others. "Selfishness" is preferable to this and much easier to parse.
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@Pacozza_libre You're not connecting the dots. High trust --> invites the world --> becomes low trust.
"But we were high trust before we invited the world!"
Quite.
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Going Blue is the personal and social suicide button. It's not even allegory. American social science as a thought experiment. ... x.com/MarkChangizi/s…
Mark Changizi@MarkChangizi
— The Suicide Button — No need for a Red button at all. Just have a single (Blue) button labeled, “Press me to commit suicide by midnight.” And then in fine print it says, “Guaranteed to work unless more than 50% of humans end up pressing their button.” Are you suggesting it’s now selfish to not press the button? Because that’s exactly the Red button answer in the equivalent Res/Blue button case.
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the results change severely based on the framing, application of the conditions. as such the best strategy is to choose predictably instead of trying to model the mind of every other person on the planet given a certain frame. the predictable choice is obviously the guaranteed non-death button. doing anything else is needlessly adding friction to a coordination problem.
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the main reason that switzerland and singapore are such elite places is bc they have small, homogeneous populations that are easily governed
switzerland: 9.0 mil
singapore: 6.1 mil
the larger a country, the harder it is to manage well. it’s the same with a private company, as size increases so does complexity
the more diverse a country, the harder it is to find ONE solution that fits all ESPECIALLY if the groups of people don’t even like each other
that’s why the european union is a failure
the EU made european politics even more abstract than before. some random woman in belgium makes decisions for both germans and greeks without understanding their precise economic and social needs. alo germans and greeks have different needs and now they are grouped into one. van der leyen has probably only been to greece less than 1 month in total, how is she supposed to understand what they need
the solution is to remove the EU and to give more autonomy to smaller parts of a country to govern themselves. politicians who walk among their peers are more incentivised to do well than politicians who live in a different country
Roko 🐉@RokoMijic
This guy is like "I'd be happy to pay high taxes if the government used it wisely", "politicians need to be held accountable for how they spend public money", "social welfare is too high" But he still fundamentally *doesn't get it* The whole reason we have - private property - firms that can make a profit if they do well, or go bankrupt if they do badly - personal finances and salaries rather than communism is because it's hard to hold governments accountable. Government is bad by nature and it should be minimized. There's no such thing as a well-run, large state. A well-run state is a small state that gets out of the way and lets other mechanisms with greater accountability do the work.
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@minordissent reader, i am confident the algos are redlining your slow COMT, fix it and become agentic beyond your wildest dreams
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@minordissent people would benefit from solving what is bottlenecking their conscientiousness. genetic analysis -> targeted pharmacological intervention can exponentiate agency
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Elon’s great super power is weapons grade autism combined with 99.9th percentile conscientiousness. Most people that conscientious are risk averse rule followers and most people that autistic have non existent executive function such they just become anti semitic mentats incapable of building anything.
vittorio@IterIntellectus
how does he do it?! it's like everything he touches
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@Agros333 @webdevMason Woah hold on, most doctors seem to be mid level IQ. If they were high IQ it would be possible to communicate with them
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Most people I know aged <40 with an IQ north of 135 have fed their health and genomic data into ChatGPT or Claude to avoid the much less sophisticated human chatbots that they end up interacting with at the clinic
Sidewalk Steve@Sidewalk_Steve
"Well, I use my vagina, and Mary uses her penis." From an American Academy of Pediatrics training video on treating lesbians written by Dr. Jason Rafferty.
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