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@Spleenface You have definitely never seen a real survey involving actual human lives.

When I first saw the question, I was a firm red buttoner, but I think the most compelling blue button argument is that I've never seen a poll that was under 30% blue

@RoseEdmunds @Big_lundi No there will inevitably be a non-zero number of people who will press the button to save everyone. That’s where the dilemma lies; it’s not about saving babies.

@AtlasG399897 @Big_lundi How is it more interesting? If everyone voting is capable of making a decision you obviously press red.

See we blue button pushers knew that was a part of the test because we know what "everyone" means. Man you red pushers really like talking about how objectively brilliant and smart you are for your choice while being the dumbest people in the world.

@RoseEdmunds @Big_lundi So if you reframe the dilemma as ‘press the button, save babies,’ you lose precisely what makes the dilemma interesting in the first place.

@AtlasG399897 @Big_lundi Literally the whole point of the thought experiment is that people who can’t make an informed decision get to press the button. It actually makes it much deeper, raising important questions about our obligations towards others who are not capable of an informed decision.

@LCannon1995 @ToniSmalloni @Big_lundi I don’t care how the dilemma was presented; I’m thinking in terms of its purpose. The whole point of the dilemma is that everyone understands why they’re voting, since voting only makes sense in a collective framework. Ofc everyone wants to save babies, congratulations.

@AtlasG399897 @ToniSmalloni @Big_lundi Wow, you mean you actually have to use critical thinking when looking at a dilemma like this? Shame, you didn't use that critical thinking. Because it clearly stated they were involved. "Everyone on the planet" is about as clear as anything could ever be ever.

@ToniSmalloni @Big_lundi So instead, reframe the dilemma as "If you press the button, you save babies’", that would be more consistent. Here, the point is precisely to consider only the two possibilities, fully understood by everyone.

@AtlasG399897 @Big_lundi Why?

@ToniSmalloni @Big_lundi A vote is a choice, and even when it’s collective, it still involves decision-making. And decision-making requires at least a minimal understanding of one’s own choice. The dilemma loses all its meaning if idiots just randomly tap on every button.

@AtlasG399897 @Big_lundi the dilemma doesn't need to be reframed just because you didn't understand the dilemma to begin with and now that you realise the implications you're sad. It was always EVERYONE literal, not EVERYONE (Only those who are fully cognative and understands the text perfectly).

@ToniSmalloni @Big_lundi No, because the dilemma would then need to be reframed, since children don’t vote, they simply die. Instead, a basic comprehension test should be required for all participants, so they fully understand why they are voting.

@AtlasG399897 @Big_lundi There's actually MORE meaning now that you cannot handwave away all the blue putton pushers as suicidal.

@k0ncept They’ll probably just wait patiently and take their turn during a fire.

question, the blue button people do they not understand human psychology and that humans will act in the best interest of themselves during a life or death decision?

@BenFerber The result is close, in a paradigm where those who choose blue have no real risk of dying and gain moral gratification for having voted blue. In reality, you are dead.

antisocial freaks on here keep trying to re-run this poll to get their preferred "kill half the planet" choice to win, and it won't. something they can't grasp is that most people would rather be dead than inhabit a world solely filled with selfish freaks like them

@IgnaceNews @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 Humans are actually pretty simple creatures when you really think about it. Suffering = Bad. Hell = Suffering. So humans ≠ wanting to go to hell.

@AtlasG399897 @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 "everyone would want to be in heaven" That's very naive of you to say. There are no fights in heaven, no rape, no stealing, no jealousy, etc. There are lots of people who couldn't live without the excitement of these things even if it brings suffering. That's why they choose hell

one more time for the nerds

@IgnaceNews @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 No, I simply don't believe in either hell or heaven, they're absurdities invented by sadistic minds. No one is completely free, and no one truly wants what they think they want; and ultimately, everyone would want to be in heaven, so this test makes no sense.

@AtlasG399897 @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 You're basically denying free will. People couldn't choose to reject God if hell didn't exist. So you wouldn't even have to ability to decide to love God it would be forced on you. Your ability to reject God proves hell must exist and you send yourself there for no reason.

@IgnaceNews @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 I can only love God if there is no hell, so i don't care

@AtlasG399897 @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 Hell is basically a torture of a person who could have won a billion dollar, but they can't receive it because they hate the donor and can't meet him face to face and they choose poverty instead. Don't want hell? Just stop hating God.

@IgnaceNews @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 The dilemma contrasts a hell reserved for a small number of people with a death that affects an infinite number of people. Since the idea of hell is intolerable to any human being, I choose the second option

@GKunstwerk @AtlasG399897 @wjfm21 Yes, but the trolley problem isn't hell which Atlas brought up.

@IgnaceNews @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 They would be if they had created the criminals from scratch, along with their actions and the walls of their prisons. Regardless, the idea of hell is an absolute horror that cannot be justified under any circumstances.

@AtlasG399897 @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 Cops are evil for putting criminals in prison now?

@IgnaceNews @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 Whether by chance or by the will of an evil god

@AtlasG399897 @GKunstwerk @wjfm21 no one has to. Just like no one needs to go to prison for life. Nobody ends up there by chance.

@Arvandor131295 @SaadInCyber Nothing compares to the fear of death and the instinct for survival.

@SaadInCyber You have it backwards. This app encourages selfishness and narcissism. So if Blue wins even here, then its even more likely to win in real life.

If it came this close in a twitter poll, you can absolutely bet your ass that red button wins in real life.

@SaadInCyber Yes, it’s obvious that under real-life conditions, the reds would win; it’s not selfish—the choice is both rational and reasonable, but it also follows the instinct for survival. No one was ever in danger in this dilemma; there was no one to save from anything.

@KatanaBets @VitoComedy A collective thought experiment should apply only to those who are capable of actually posing the dilemma and understanding its implications.

@VitoComedy love that the only way red button people think they win is by completely changing the scenario to something fundamentally different You guys still lost both the most viral polls on this debate anyways

You are in a room with 99 other people, and an industrial people crushing machine Everyone must secretly choose whether or not to get under the crusher. If more than fifty people are under the crusher, it will malfunction and break, killing no one Do you get under the crusher?