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@ItsMattsLaw @DietCoke_Esq They tend to not like that though.

Truly no better “this you?” than citing your judge from another case

From the Infinity Machine. I guess indirectly DeepMind’s fears were realized when it came to Palantir and AI

@harvey What kind of stat is “93% weekly adoption”? What does that actually mean?

Dentsu’s legal team: 250 people, ~120 markets, 93% weekly Harvey adoption. They’re saving hours, cutting external counsel reliance, and showing up with answers before anyone asks.

@willchen500 The game now is to push “agentic workflows” to mask the otherwise slow pace of the AI adoption narrative that was pushed the previous year by legal tech vendors

How many times has Legora marketed itself as having "agentic workflows", being an "agentic platform" before now being an "agentic OS™". Just go to google and search 'site:legora.com "agentic"' to see for yourself. I looked at the announcement and I frankly failed to spot anything new other than a flashy demo and a trademark. Not only that but there seems to be a bad formatting error on the announcement page which I assumed comes from vibe code. Did no one check it before it went out.

@tx_law Great way to generate more work for yourself

Yes, I can do transactional M&A work despite the nature of my practice being civil appeals and litigation.

@greggnunziata This is probably much closer to true at the appellate level than at the trial level.

In law school, a prominent appellate judge spoke to our class, and someone asked: "How often do oral arguments make a difference in the outcome of a case?" The judge thought a bit and said: "In my 25 years on the bench...never, they've never made a difference."

Are any lawyers just quietly vibecoding their own tools to help with some repetitive part of their workflow that they got sick of doing over and over again? Or for paralegals? Has anyone built anything themselves that they are finding useful?

@SteelToeScribe I mean, not if you actually went to law school.

The bar is harder than its pass % suggests - and pass rates fall off a cliff after an initial oopsie. If Kim’s serious about licensure, I implore her to attend law school. A truly steroidal human experience - socratic addicts know

Wild stat: the Jude Law campaign Legora ran last month generated $50M in qualified pipe in the subsequent 30 days. 🤯

@chiajy2000 This is the final boss of product-market fit

Calendly for lawyers - but like, lawyers actually use it.

AI issues turning up in evidentiary disputes at trial from an unpublished New Jersey case: Investigator put his report into "an AI program" to prep for cross-examination and it inadvertently gets turned over in discovery (oops). This must have been very helpful for the defense because counsel tries to hammer it during trial. Court doesn't let him get anywhere with it but can imagine a world where this turned out much worse for the investigator. Does anyone have any firsthand experience of similar situations arising during discovery or trial?

@DietCoke_Esq I’ve always assumed that’s when most of your poasting happens.

I love sitting in court for 2.5 hours for a 2.5 min hearing

That makes sense. This was many moons ago but I recall digging into bar passage rates in NY back when I took it. If you look at first time test takers graduating from ABA accredited law schools the pass rate was extremely high. While not published at the time, I’m sure if you added people who did the proper prep course it’s gotta be even higher.

@Badfaith___ @HabCorpLinguist No, she's doing the Cali apprenticeship model

The bar exam did its job. Three cheers for the bar exam.

@RileeDHarrison Big overlap between the lawyers who wear whatever they want and those with a yahoo email account

Good lawyers wear suits everyday. Great lawyers wear whatever the heck they want.

@DietCoke_Esq There is no better way. Best to just embrace it and be as difficult as possible in return.

There has to be a better way to pick deposition dates than a 50+ emails thread with attorneys saying “no I have _____ that day, does [date that doesn’t work for someone else] work?”

The attorney-client privilege in NJ means a lot more than you think.

@zhusu "I love thai food"

White people will flick through 10 pages of a menu in Thailand and then order a pad thai with a tom yum goong and a coconut.

Yet another pro se appeal dismissed because of fake citations that were found to "likely" come form the misuse of an "artificial intelligence tool." Court doesn't dismiss because of the AI misuse just notes that there was otherwise no support for the arguments.

@willchen500 BuT hOw eLSe tO cOlLabOrAtE aCrOSs lArGe fIrMs aNd leGAl tEaMs??

Harvey and Legora are essentially sales organisations that resell tokens. They have hired legions of ex big law juniors and mid levels as sales people (“GTM”) along with some ex partners to wine and dine their former colleagues. They slap on a UI that makes them look different from ChatGPT but the product differentiation and vertical specific features are far and few in between. You could just as well use both for any white collar job. Their web apps are basically 1. A chatbot interface 2. A projects function where you can upload your files 3. A tabular review function where you can bulk review documents in a table 4. Workflows which are just custom prompts you write for the chatbot or tabular review. I was able to build everything plus some additional functionality they do not have like version control in mikeoss.com in two weeks. I call this the “token reseller theory”. They are like car dealers or real estate agents but for tokens. The model providers get them to do the selling to crack open the reticent legal market. What happens to H/L now that the model providers want the market for themselves? Does not bode well for them.