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@EStreetRockets Poor NASA leadership definitely contributed. It sat without a concrete mission for the best part of a decade. Only when Bridenstine got in did it feel like there was a purpose building for it beyond just having its capability. Everyone takes blame for it imo.

@Gangsta_Playz @josefnewgarden Helps the suit and car are now pretty iconic. In a world of changing car liveries, I like it when one gets to stay. Thinking like the Players, Targets and Marlboros in the old days.

@josefnewgarden The same livery returning for 3 years now?

Psst … 🤫

@ExoticDes Do you... 👉👈 Prefer creative mode?

If you’re in survival mode I want you nowhere near me

@_FrankyPi @HalcyonHypnotic @Amateur_Astro1 I once tried to explain to someone who thought every other rocket was pointless when Starship exists. At that point I just assume they know nothing about Satellites, Payloads or the Industry. There's a strange breed of fans out there that refuse to learn stuff like that.

@HalcyonHypnotic @Biased_Ply @Amateur_Astro1 Pretty sure a lot of SpaceX fanboys lose their mind at any criticism of their favorite company and automatically assume people expressing the criticism are super haters.

@Truthful_ast @CamBamJamFam The outside is engines don't relight though?

@CamBamJamFam Deformed bells yet still landed accurately!

It just works.

@semiColin__ @KenKirtland17 Technically these Starship flights are classed as Sub Orbital per the FAA licensing. So if we want to get technical either Starship doesn't make the list or New Shepard slots into 2nd place. Be nice if the rules are fair for all...

SpaceX now has the second vehicle with a propulsively recovered 1st stage. 1. Falcon 9 / Heavy 2. Starship Upcoming: New Glenn Neutron Terran R Many others

@Gerar59478 @Mach7Matt Can't deny they are really accelerating development of a lot of rockets and their SHLVs. But I don't see how they would take market share away from western companies, especially when ITAR and DoD stuff come into play. But their own exploration sure, be good to watch

@Biased_Ply @Mach7Matt The Chinese will be a strong rival to SpaceX

New Glenn is a Falcon Heavy competitor. There is no starship competitor yet. So SpaceX not only landed Falcon Heavy before New Glenn, they also developed, tested and landed Starship before New Glenn. I am begging the industry to compete.

@MrKhagol @Gundermgg I don't think NASA funded crews will be flying on Starship. Dragon 2 has a place long into the 2030s. Starship may turn out to be a jack of all trades perhaps, but it will be a master of none. Sometimes you need that specialised LV. Or SpaceX will lose that part of the market.

@Gundermgg Falcon be still around though until it won’t be

I think there is a possibility that new Glenn becomes fully reusable, which would allow it to compete with Starship for Earth orbit. Of course, no one is competing with starships capabilities beyond Earth orbit... I suspect that full reusability will be the most important aspect of rocket performance going forward, and the smaller fully reusable rockets may actually be more well positioned due to lower launch cost. My one concern for starship's competitiveness is the fact that it's so big that you probably won't be able to fill it. Much like a 747 or A380, if you can't fill the thing then it's not very cost effective. Fortunately, a lot of starships' payload will be Starlinks or propellant for missions beyond Earth orbit, but still. Once you have other fully reusable competitors, its competitive advantage may drop considerably unless people start building much larger payloads.

@Ac64940893 @RealAikiRhino @Mach7Matt A fair amount changed with it. As did Starship. I still remember SpaceX announcing dear moon for a 2023 Launch but no one yaps on about them being late... We're getting reusable heavy lift across the industry, just enjoy it and don't put others down 🤷

@RealAikiRhino @Mach7Matt By awesome you mean extremely over budget and late. Understood

@HipernovaStar @Amateur_Astro1 Thankfully HLS will have more of the aesthetic I like, the clean white and black designs. But I know so many out there love the ruggedness of SH that I'm probably in the minority overall. Stainless just makes me see a grain silo.

@Biased_Ply @Amateur_Astro1 Oh yeah ITS is my sweet sweet baby but I kinda love the brutalistic, industrial look of starship.

@OV__101 So happy to see SpaceX get to this point. I've been optimistically skeptical since 2011 when I started supporting them, but each time they've proved they're the real deal. Gonna be a great few decades ahead of us.

@OV__101 Still people out there focusing on the haters than just enjoying the moment. Let them fade into obscurity with no relevancy. This place has turned into a point scoring community, can't just let things go and enjoy the moment without trying and putting others down.

Ah, seeing space twitter as something nice for a day brings joy to me, I wish it was like this more lmfao

@HalcyonHypnotic @Amateur_Astro1 The extremes are both as bad as each other. Seen truly awful stuff lately from both sides. Doesn't surprise me though, tech industry communities tend to go this way and no doubt it's more charged due to being a political year. Just wish it would feel a little nicer around here.

@Biased_Ply @Amateur_Astro1 Pretty sure the SpaceX haters are worse than the actual fans

@HalcyonHypnotic @Amateur_Astro1 And that can both be said for other companies. There's bad eggs in most fanbases. But SpaceX's are starting to get a nasty reputation. And it saddens me because the goal of space is all encompassing. It should be a celebration for everyone doing it the more the merrier.

@HalcyonHypnotic @Amateur_Astro1 It's actually getting to the point the companies themselves are engaging in better faith than their fans. It's absurd to imagine that 10+ years ago. Love SpaceX but their toxic following has been growing big time, it feels so different to supporting them in 2011.

@Truthful_ast Honestly in reflection chopsticks is a way easier target than the original concept of actually landing on the launch mount. Awesome to see it finally pay off. Been nearly 10 years of development and hype and it's all coming together.

Lol.

@TheTitanIIIGuy Still seems that they have a fair way to find the the TPS. I wonder how long it's going to take to get to the non refurb point they want to be at. Especially when they start sending them places and back.

@Orbital_Perigee Well they've had nearly 300 successful landings. I think that counts for something I was never doubting them. It looked as easy as it should for them. Its why Blue has a "decent" shot at landing New Glenn. Thought RTLS is a stationary and easier target.

Jesus Christ. They made it look *easy.*