Jonathan Ellis

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Jonathan Ellis

Jonathan Ellis

@BuffJE0920

Katılım Eylül 2016
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Jonathan Ellis
Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@dmbkparker @Jomboy_ 100% we will lose this. Pitcher beats a hitter who gets caught looking away and makes a great pitch inside. Makes a great pitch. Overturned because it’s a millimeter off. Why do people want that? It’s not in the spirit of competition or the strike zone.
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Dan@dmbkparker·
@Jomboy_ There’s something to be said for the feel of a game though. Punch outs, borderline calls, etc. I wonder if losing that loses some excitement in the name of 100% accuracy. That’s my struggle.
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@Jomboy_ @dmbkparker Why not? Why does everything need to be optimized/made perfect? Why are people so unwilling to live with a missed call here or there. Missed calls provide entertainment value & fodder. Baseball already suffers from enough lack of variety with increase in 3 true outcomes
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Jomboy@Jomboy_·
@dmbkparker Calling balls and strikes on the shadow zone is so hard. Humans shouldn’t be asked to do it anymore IMO
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@MLPitchpiner @Savageboston Please go look at the MLB rule book and tell me the exact straight line you’d like to have as the top and bottom of the strike zone for every player. It did not exist.
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Pinoak@MLPitchpiner·
@Savageboston Thank you, every pitch every game. The calls would be quicker than by a human umpire. MLB slow to adjust.
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Savage@Savageboston·
The system clearly works, and it makes you wonder why the MLB doesn’t simply use it all of the time. Every pitch. Every game. Yesterday was an embarrassment for the umpire.
Jeff Passan@JeffPassan

There are moments that offer a pretty good sense that something new is going to work. This feels like one for ABS. The Cincinnati crowd’s reaction was thunderous. And the situation itself — twice it salvaged a bases-loaded opportunity. This system plays.

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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@Boston_George @Savageboston Completely agree. These morons all think the strike zone is this perfect fixed box they like they see on TV. The actual rule book has the bottom of the strike zone as “just below the knee cap”. Which is a completely subjective arbitrary undefined area. Not a perfect straight line
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Boston_George@Boston_George·
Because it doesn’t clearly work. The vertical strike zone is completely arbitrary based on a players height, and not their stance or their position in the box when the pitch is thrown. Directly against the MLB rule book. The measurement is only at the middle of the plate, despite the plate being a 3D zone. And at best, spring showed us it’s a coin flip. Basically 50/50 tossup on challenges. Highly flawed gimmick that makes a mockery of the game.
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@jaylombardi87 @hoosiercommish Define the bottom of the strike zone for me. Look at the actual rule book. “Just below the knee cap”. It’s completely subjective and arbitrary. So no, I don’t need replay or robots measuring it to a tenth of an inch.
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Matthew Whitmore
Matthew Whitmore@whitmm123·
@Tonyy394 @BeaneaterB @KFCBarstool So strike zone is more like VAR on offsides, not goals. The whole point is that all of these rules are based on "if any part touches, it's called a certain way."
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@whitmm123 @BeaneaterB @KFCBarstool You are wrong. Read the rule book. There is no defined line at the bottom of the line there is for OB in other sports. The rule book says the bottom is “just below the knee cap”. That’s not a defined line. It’s a subjective gray area. Not meant to be judged to the millimeter.
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Matthew Whitmore@whitmm123·
@BeaneaterB @KFCBarstool Imagine people making this same argument in other sports. "Only .1% of his foot touched the line, so he should still be in bounds."
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@BeaneaterB @KFCBarstool Yes it is how the strike zone works. Go read the rule book. The rule book definition at the bottom is “just below the knee cap”. That is subjective. It’s a gray area. It’s not the neat little box on TV. It’s just not.
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Beans (Beaneater Buzz)
Beans (Beaneater Buzz)@BeaneaterB·
@KFCBarstool But that’s not how the strikezone works. The strikezone isn’t objective, it’s definite. If a pitch touches any part of the strikezone it’s a strike.
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@itmeolliev @KFCBarstool What is moronic about it? Go look up the rule book definition of the bottom of the strike zone. The rule is “just below the knee cap”. It’s subjective. Its gray. It’s not the neat little line that your tiny brain sees on TV.
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@PitchingNinja Rob, there is no actual defined bottom of the strike zone. The rule book has the bottom of the zone as “just below the knee cap”. Why are we shitting on an umpire for a subjective interpretation of a subjective definition?
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Rob Friedman
Rob Friedman@PitchingNinja·
Salvy teaching Doug Eddings the bottom of the strike zone. Over and Over and Over again. But Eddings refuses to learn. 😂
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@Doctor_Dray_ @hoosiercommish You are incorrect. Go look up the rule book and what the bottom or top of the strike zone is. It is subjective. It literally says “just below the knee cap”. It’s not some defined perfect line like the box on TV. That is just a completely made up thing.
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@JoezMcfLy No. It. Is. Not. Black and white. The actual rule book definition of a strike has changed multiple times. The rule book has the bottom of the zone as “just below the knee cap”. That is not black and white. It is subjective. It is not meant to be adjudicated to a tenth of an inch
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JoezMcfly🇩🇴
JoezMcfly🇩🇴@JoezMcfLy·
Nah im tired of gray area calls its black and white if its a strike its a strike if not then its a ball. This doesn’t suck this provides consistency and more uniform integrity for the game
KFC@KFCBarstool

That pitch the other day that was like right over the whole ass plate? Great ABS. This? Succccccks. I know this can’t be the rule but it should almost be the ball has to be in the zone a certain amount. One millimeter touching the zone are toss up calls that should stay that way

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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@UrMomsOnTinder_ @thechek182 @ReggieChatman The actual rule book right now has the bottom of the strike zone as “a point just below the knee cap”. Someone define “just below” to me. Down to a tenth of an inch. The actual fucking rule book is subjective. That’s the whole point.
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Reggie Chatman Jr.
Reggie Chatman Jr.@ReggieChatman·
This is what ABS is all about baby
Reggie Chatman Jr. tweet media
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@UrMomsOnTinder_ @thechek182 @ReggieChatman Can you read? MLB has changed the actual rule book for why a ball/strike is many times. The strike zone is arbitrary and objective and changes over the course of history, depending on what humans have decided is hittable or not.
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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@TheHitmanStan @AlaricTsoni @hoosiercommish What is unfair? Unfair assumes that umpires are on the take and somehow out to screw YOUR team. Thats just not the case. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don’t. I’m willing to live with that.
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Hitman Stan
Hitman Stan@TheHitmanStan·
@BuffJE0920 @AlaricTsoni @hoosiercommish It seems like you don’t really care about fairness or skill. You just want drama and controversy. And you are entitled to that opinion.
Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920

@pattyb_09 @PitchingNinja Just my opinion. I like variety. I like that sometimes calls help you and sometimes they don’t. I miss managers losing their minds in an argument. That’s entertaining to me. Robots deciding outcomes is not entertaining. Someday when you grow up you will understand

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Jonathan Ellis@BuffJE0920·
@sayeeshwar @hoosiercommish It’s a slippery slope. The people who like replay review and “as long as we get it right” people always start there. But it always devolves into far too many reviews and shit that is not the original intent of introducing replay. It’s never just the obvious ones.
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