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🪏Jon Kravetz

@CSWAP_Destroy

Jon Kravetz -- Founder and CEO of @CswapDEX--former student of Mathematics and Philosophy @ UC Irvine. Creative Technologist & Dreamer.

Portland Area/Crypto Island Katılım Ekim 2022
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It's clear to me that CSWAP is the DEX where community needs to LP. Why? $CSWAP is not a throw away emissions token, it's a yield bearing asset that scales linearly with usage. Participation on CSWAP is rewarded with long term alignment. This is meaningful differentiation.
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HOSKY@hoskytoken·
All Stables on Cardano are doing well…
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@stakenuts @btc_karma I was just excited...I really like the work you are doing by the way. I'm sorry your proposal didn't get approved.
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Just going to leave this here for anybody who wants to know who Cardano's bitcoin DeFi strategy came from. And they say Cardano projects don't innovate... Our product @btc_karma is live on mainnet and already growing Cardano Bitcoin TVL. Phase 2 coming soon. cc: @ProofofPierre
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@stakenuts @btc_karma Technically it does leave their wallet but...is still self custody. E.g. a user can lock their bitcoin for a time period in a script that only they have access to. So that part wasn't entirely accurate.
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B.B@Bruvargas28·
@CSWAP_Destroy @btc_karma My man... I just want my BTC to generate yield.. No liquidations. No leverage. Self custody Can we have that?
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@CashAnvil @pedrolucasnet Same. Also neither program is a good fit for us. These are for very early stage companies...I don't think many of those exist on Cardano.
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$cash@CashAnvil·
@pedrolucasnet I really wanted to try it out I just don't think many teams are currently positioned to take multiple weeks off right now.
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@btc_karma We shared this Bitcoin-native DeFi strategy directly with CF and IOG early this year. BTC Karma then shipped Phase 1 on mainnet. Independent builders should not have to compete with the protocol's core development company after bringing new innovation to the ecosystem...
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Thanks man. We will pursue things with draper and with a direct treasury withdrawal and see what happens. I've sacrificed a lot of myself to try and help Cardano, but its not easy to be profitable and grow the ecosystem at the same time. I think people really need to understand the economics of Cardano before making decisions or drawing conclusions about spending. If it were up to me, I would just make our grant system more competitive and less decentralized. Cardano needs business experts who can recognize talent. I don't think we have that at this point.... Cutting grants seems like a last resort and I don't think we were there yet. Like...its going to cause real damage to the ecosystem. Its simple math. I sincerely appreciate your thoughtfulness, support, and your willingness to listen and be empathetic. Cardano would benefit from more folks like you. This is why I have had no problem answering your questions at length. Hopefully by education community members that are open to understand, we can develop a more sophisticated and knowledgable user base for Cardano. 💚
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optictopic@Optictopic·
That's fair. You have to protect your personal investment of time and energy. I know Draper is focused more on institutional development but maybe their is a strong reason for them to get on board. I don't want to sound like an arm chair quarterback so I won't go on about alternative funding mechanisms that you have no doubt combed through already. I hate to see the damage this downturn has inflicted on great projects like your own. It's good to know you have no plans on shuttering operations on Cardano.
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ESCO 🪏@ESCOweb3·
If this isn’t funded…. Cardano is legitimately cooked. Bookmark this post. 🫶🏽
alphagrowth@alphagrowth1

It's time. The @Cardano PRIME proposal is now live on-chain for community vote. A 12-month AlphaGrowth-run program to strengthen Cardano DeFi: protocol readiness, responsible incentives, durable on-chain growth. This one belongs to the community. So let's talk about it - together.

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I mean I agree with almost everything you've said. It doesn't matter though. Founding entities put their own interests first because they don't have to put ADA holders first. They have no fiduciary responsibility to do otherwise and it shows. This mentality trickles down to other Cardano projects and its probably the main reason why Cardano can't succeed commercially.
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₳lex Maaza@planetmaaz·
blockchain is meant to be invisible to web3 app users - like the internet is to web2 @AnvilDevAgency’s commercial ticketing proposal contributes to scalable 1. onchain activity 2. economic return to Cardano (5%) 3. revenue stream for a critical Cardano builder I will vote YES
$cash@CashAnvil

Posting this here for anyone else looking into our Ticketing Proposal. Please take a second to read through it if you are on the fence. Thank you. --------------------------------------------- Thank Yuta, I really appreciate your careful investigation into the surrounding market, and the failures and successes. "the value accrues to the ticketing company, not the chain, and the chain layer gets quietly removed once it stops improving something concrete." 1st and foremost - the value accrues to both in our proposal, the ticketing company, and the chain. Every transaction processed will be a Cardano mainnet transaction. -Ticket Sold (minted NFT, creates rev for treasury via native fees and TVL) -Ticket Transfer (Cardano mainnet TX) -Ticket Sale (Cardano mainnet TX) -Ticket Update (Cardano mainnet TX) -Ticket Used (Cardano mainnet TX) Additionally, the treasury will retain 5% of all platform fees, in addition to the regularly created TXs. "what does the Cardano layer concretely improve for Sellout that Web2 can't?" First, I'd like to think that having a native asset, rather than a smart contract reference, is a huge structural advantage. As these are basically RWAs to some extent, the native asset structure makes the most sense when handling NFTs. This also leaves room for the Tickets to evolve into collectibles and engagement tooling for artists, venues, and event organizers. Secondly, anti-scalping and anti-counterfeiting. Since they are NFTs, they include immutable metadata which can be used for tracking the history of the ticket and creating an unduplicatable asset. Third, and not mentioned in our proposal, is the idea of the company becoming a SPO. Through the stored value in each NFT, we will accrue a small of ADA that when multiplied across 100s of thousands of tickets could be used to subsidize a pool, ultimately leading to the platform subsidizing costs for event organizers and consumers. This is a Cardano only mechanism that the Sellout CEO was completely sold on. Finally, re-sale control. Although not done on the ledger level, having control over royalties is paramount for event organizers. This can only be done with fully digitalized ticketing, and best done with NFTs, in our professional opinion. Now, moving on to the points raised on ADAtool: "Token-first funding (2017–18 ICO class) Raised from token buyers rather than customers; requiring fans/organizers to use a token added friction; the 2018 downturn ended runways." There has not been, nor will there ever be, a token sale. We agree that tokens only add additional friction in ticketing. "Wallet friction at the venue door Consumer flows requiring wallets/gas at entry did not displace QR codes; entry must work offline for all attendees." This is actually a great point that no one has brought up yet, and one that we solved in Phase 1 of our project. We did not change Sellout's current process, nor will we. All ticket check-ins are batched separately from the rest of ticketing actions. This allows us to capture all the data from the event before submitting it to chain. This includes offline mode, as well as literal sign ins done with pen and paper. "Distribution over technology Incumbents hold venue contracts and primary inventory; startups had working technology and no inventory. Ticketmaster acquired Upgraded (2018); no public blockchain ticketing product followed." This could be addressed in a multitude of different ways. My personal opinion here is that they basically paid to remove their true competition. They know the value blockchain ticketing will have and don't want it to disrupt their monopoly. "Anti-scalping vs rights-holder economics Resale revenue is a feature for rights holders; scalping-resistance products faced buyers whose economics they opposed." The MP provides an outlet for a user to securely transfer, buy, sell or trade a ticket they had already purchased for an upcoming show. This is not a new idea - AXS and Ticketmaster both have 3p marketplaces that offer no consumer protections against price or fraud. "NFT-market correlation (2021–22 class) Projects funded and framed as NFT plays contracted with the NFT market itself." This is not a NFT project. This is an infrastructure play. The first iteration of NFTs (2021-22 class) were used sparingly in applications and more for collectability. We do not debate this. Our proposal represents an evolution in NFT capabilities. "The surviving configuration and its two documented outcomes Operating survivors hide the chain and sell B2B into existing distribution (GET white-label, UEFA×TIXnGO, True Tickets×Shubert, Sympla×Polygon). Two outcomes recur in this group: economic value accrues to the ticketing company rather than the chain (GET: 5M tickets, token −98.9%), and the blockchain layer is de-emphasized or removed over time (True Tickets' marketing, Ticketmaster's shelving)." The main goal of the platform is that people do not know that it operates on blockchain. That's not to say blockchain is shameful. People have proven they do not care what the technology is as long as it's easy to use and works when it's supposed to. Additionally, it directly benefits the blockchain. This product will produce TX fees, and our proposal itself is structured as a loan, with a permanent 5% revenue share to the treasury. I am not sure if you are aware of this portion of the proposal or not. I know this is a lot to digest but i wrote it all by hand so I hope you will take the time to actually understand what I am saying here. AI will not do this justice, I treated this as if it was a live interview. I answered this the second I saw it and did not run it through anything. I am passionate and committed this is the correct progression for this product. If Cardano doesn't take us up on it. We will take it somewhere that will. This product belongs on blockchain.

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@Optictopic Also we can easily make BTC Karma multi-chain if we do not feel we are being supported here.
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optictopic@Optictopic·
@CSWAP_Destroy Is Cswap and BTC Karma at risk of being shuttered soon? Its easy for retail to be spooked and shy away from parking value somewhere they feel is on shaky footing.
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Not only do independent Cardano liquidity providers not understand why moving LP to CSWAP is important for the health of the ecosystem. Projects don't either. It's really simple math. Bad DEX tokens can NOT attract liquidity from outside of Cardano. Our token is designed to scale in price with volume since it offers 100% revenue share. We designed the perfect dex token for Cardano's situation and the entire chain faded us. I don't know how many ways I can explain it. People are not going to bring liquidity to Cardano to earn a minswap or sundaeswap token. PERIOD. They launched at 1B and 2B valuations respectively and their tokens are inflationary dog shit that nobody wants. Either adapt....or whine and complain about it some more. I've tried everything. We gave the ecosystem a solution, and you don't use it. Go complain some more and maybe that will do something.
CSWAP | DEX@CswapDEX

If projects would've moved their liquidity to CSWAP then the liquidity situation would get better, but they don't. We've talked to snek and all the teams you work with and they just ignore us. Why? Our token launched at 5m usd fdv with 100% revenue share mechanics. Our DEX is the only one that can properly incentivize liquidity to come over from other ecosystems, because the price of the token will rise with volume and increased yield. Other DEX tokens launched at 1b valuations and offer nothing close to what we do. But nobody listens to us, and this is the result. Congrats Cardano projects.

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@Optictopic I don't think the community understands what is at stake and deserves brutal honesty. I can't speak for every founder, but there are limits to what we are willing to put up with to stay heavily invested here. Talk is cheap at this point.
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@Optictopic In terms of our tokens, we can take them multi-chain if necessary. Our community will always be put first.
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No. Cardano is at risk of losing our main focus. We will still maintain our products here but we can not continue to focus most of our attention here if there is no material support for what we are doing for Cardano. It is not profitable to build here. If there are no grants available to us, then we have no choice to focus most of our time and resources elsewhere. That's normal.
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We are under NDA with tx pipe for btc karma right now. We need an audit quote. Then we will submit a dtw for btc karma audit and expansion. Not holding my breath. CSWAP Dex...no. I don't think it will make any meaningful difference at this point. We've been hard stuck at 3m ada tvl for as long as I can remember. We said we would open source the code if the deFi liquidity committee was willing to make an injection.
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There are teams on other chains making 100k usd every day....I'm serious. The next product we roll out has 10x the potential of thse products. If we can't get more support on Cardano then we can't risk deploying it here first...that's for sure. BTC Karma was our gift. If we can't get support for that when this is what Cardano has been clamoring for...then yeah I don't know.
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optictopic@Optictopic·
If I'm honest, I am becoming increasingly concerned with Ai enabled attack vectors against DEX's. I hear about ideas related to a type of insurance that would help protect LP providers. If you and your team power through this harsh downturn is this something you have considered working towards?
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No serious team will come to build on Cardano if they can't make at the very least hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. If I'm being honest, we are only still here because we invested a lot here. At some point it doesn't make sense to continue putting in effort where you aren't being supported or listened to when you are honestly trying to help. Hopefully alpha growth gets approved and they can improve things, but as it stands we will focus on btc karma since we can grow via the bitcoin community. There is no way to grow right now on Cardano without serious change.
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We've invested 4.5 years here and we really want to help, but if we can't find the support we need as a bare minimum, then we have to think about what's best for CSWAP and our holders. We are unwilling to be slaves to Cardano's lack of commercial success, especially when we aren't being listened to.
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If the cap of what can be achieved on Cardano is minswap's success or dexhunter's success...these are very small businesses in the grand scheme of things. It's just not worth the effort at some point when everything is working against you. We would have a much easier time elsewhere.
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