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@grouchdiver And still - I have zero power so why target me?

@CaBaba I disagree, with such a power imbalance between the Israelis and the Palestinians, leaving change to those living in Israel and Palestine, the only thing that will accomplish is further incidents of violence against both countries. Canada must stop all support immediately.

I have no power to change what is happening in Gaza but I am targeted at work, in my neighbourhood and armed police stand at my child's school.

@grouchdiver No, but your ideas will adversely affect Jewish people. The only people who can affect change are those living in Israel and Palestine. Both held open elections. Western countries feel like the rest of the world is controlled by them -it is not.

@CaBaba I’m not targeting Jewish people…the government of Israel represents all its citizens, of all religions. It is disingenuous to say that valid criticism of an elected government, with the possibility of legally permitted sanctions is not an attack on people who celebrate Judaism.

@grouchdiver Interesting that you are so willing to collectively punish the Jewish people. A traumatized people who had few options after the holocaust. Traumatized again after October 7th. Canada already voted for a Ceasefire.

@CaBaba You said that economic sanctions would be punitive or harmful to the people of Israel…no government is going to make changes that are against their own ideology unless pressured by countries like ours. Think global (sanctions, the ICC), act local (protests, call my MP, etc.).

@grouchdiver Honestly, we have no power in other countries. The fact that people think they do is because they want to feel they have control over a terrible situation. Helps them feel less hopeless.

@CaBaba It doesn’t work for those countries because some countries like China and Russia put money before basic human rights. Without that help the sanctions would be effective…as they were against South Africa. Our government puts money before the humanity of others deemed expendable.

@grouchdiver Those two countries have demonstrated no change despite the world collectively boycotting them. So what makes you think you can make change that way?

@CaBaba I would argue that the people in North Korea and Iran are being punished collectively by most of the world…so we have shown the willingness to do just that as a means for creating change. The status quo is not something most of the world will accept anymore.

@grouchdiver So collectively punish all Israeli citizens is your suggestion?

@CaBaba What can Canada do? A lot…we buy and sell goods and services with the government of Israel, which could be used to create political pressure for change. We could support the UN motion asking for an investigation into the actions of the Israeli government and military forces.

@grouchdiver So boycott a whole group of jewish people who didn't necessarily vote for the current Israeli government? Affect those people negatively?

@grouchdiver Then should they not be protesting at Queens Park or Parliament Hill? Canada already voted for a ceasefire at the UN. What else can Canada do to control Israel- another democratic country?

@CaBaba The people who are protesting are doing so to change politics in Canada, and want to see a new approach taken by the government, in lieu of the charges being brought against Israel for crimes against humanity and genocide. They are angry that our government does nothing to help.

@grouchdiver Why bother asking my opinion? I disagree that our voices make change in Israel. Israel has its own government and citizens. It is like saying our voices make change in the USA.

@CaBaba Do you support the Israeli government and what they are doing in Gaza? You mentioned that you can’t change what happens there, but you can push for changes in our country’s foreign policies if changes are warranted in your opinion.

@grouchdiver Actually, not one single public elementary or secondary school have police stationed at them. Highschools in priority neighbourhoods use to have resource officers but that program was ended. So it is pretty novel to have police guard your child's school here in Toronto.

@CaBaba Sadly, the need to protect children at school is not new in Toronto and I was always impressed with the professionalism of the security forces in place…no one deserves to be personally targeted at work. If you had the power to change the situation in Gaza, what would you do?

I'm going to start asking people if they actually know any Jewish people or have Jewish friends. My bet is most don't. They think they know us... they don't.

@RLWallbank @hussansk Exactly! So they know!!

@CaBaba @hussansk Heres the video: x.com/DrJacobsRad/st…

Protest are uniformly focussed on getting the most attention so are in public places, over highways, etc. Absolutely no one is protesting in neighbourhoods because our Jewish brethren live there. Connecting protests against Israel with Jewish communities is anti-semitic.

@jorymicah Israel is mentioned over 2000 times in the torah. Loving Israel is not a political movement, it is part of our religion.

The main cause of antisemitism is Zionism.🤷🏻‍♀️

@DonnaspahrDonna @ZQ919 @LevittMichael @globeandmail Antisemitism card granted.

@CaBaba @ZQ919 @LevittMichael @globeandmail Persecution card denied.

A must read @globeandmail editorial: “When protests become acts of intimidation.” theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editor…

@kinsellawarren @timescolonist Jews in Canada have zero power in Israel/Gaza. Enough is enough. Stop targeting us for something we have not done.

Read this. "Comment: After weeks of demonstrations, enough is enough" timescolonist.com/opinion/commen… via @timescolonist

@grouchdiver @JustinTrudeau It is a very Jewish neighbourhood. If you don't live here and are not Jewish you don't know. It is about intimidation. We Jews in Canada can't change anything in Gaza so why come where we live every weekend?

@CaBaba @JustinTrudeau I lived in this neighborhood for a few years when I lived in Toronto, and never heard it referred to as “a Jewish neighborhood”…people have the right to personal autonomy and safety but not the right to exclude others from public spaces who have opinions that they disagree with.

The recent antisemitic incidents in Canada – an arson attack at a Jewish-owned grocery store, and protests targeting where Jewish Canadians live and shop – are unacceptable. All of us, especially non-Jewish Canadians, must condemn this vile hate wherever and whenever it occurs.

This weeks torah reading: The children of Israel multiply in Egypt. Threatened by their growing numbers, Pharaoh enslaves them and orders the Hebrew midwives, Shifrah and Puah, to kill all male babies at birth. (Israel is mentioned again!)

@grouchdiver @JustinTrudeau But that is not the case - people come together to live in communities. Like the village is many but not all gay folks, Bathurst & Wilson is many but not all from the Philippines.

@JustinTrudeau I agree with most of this statement except for the part about “protests targeting where Jewish Canadians live and shop”…we are not a segregated nation like the States, and the areas of which you speak are as diverse as it should be in a multicultural country like ours.