Jordan Paterson

Theology is nothing if it does not lead to doxology and orthopraxy.

Time to get off X. It’s been fun, friends.

@SwordMasterPub @towell_travis @towell_travis Do you agree with his answer?

@towell_travis @Calvy_CoG 1. Not everyone sins. 2. It's not inevitable. Next question.

If original sin is merely Man's first sin (not inherited corruption/guilt), then why does everyone sin? Why the inevitability?

@Nichola197756 Yeah - I am particularly targeting those that want to reject both an inheritied guilt, and an inherited Intrinsic corruption.

@Calvy_CoG As an FYI because a lot of this can get confusing or mixed with online trash. ALL NON-HERTICAL churches affirm Original sin as original corruption. Some deny 'original guilt' That Adam's guilt is not passed on. So all r drawn to sin but not guilt of sin until they actually sin

@EkklesiaMind But was it in Adams nature pre-fall?

@Calvy_CoG Sin exists as the absence of God. The moment you stop relying on God and rely on yourself is the moment you sin. It’s in your very nature.

@J0RDANSCHAEFFER @rootcausesleuth Did Root ever intend to clarify her statement? I'm not sure why I'm being castigated for being precise whilst Root is free to make vague statements as she pleases?

@Calvy_CoG @rootcausesleuth Lol yeah obviously you clarified later by making your original statement completely devoid of any controversy.

People want me to believe that God is not like us even though he made us like him

@J0RDANSCHAEFFER @rootcausesleuth x.com/i/status/20169…

@Calvy_CoG @rootcausesleuth How was that clear? You used the word "like" which does not have any ontological leanings unless specified and it also happens to be the English root word for "likeness". How can you not see your original wording was misleading?

@J0RDANSCHAEFFER @rootcausesleuth I'm clearly using it in relation to ontology.

@Calvy_CoG @rootcausesleuth "wholly other" means God is not like us in any way which is explicitly denied by scripture.

@J0RDANSCHAEFFER @rootcausesleuth If God is ontologically different from creation, then my post is true. God is ontologically not "like" is in any way.

@Calvy_CoG @rootcausesleuth We just want you to admit that your post previously is unbiblical. You are implying that we are not like God when the Bible specifically says God made us like himself. The word "like" here means similar but not exactly the same in every way. x.com/Calvy_CoG/stat…

@rootcausesleuth @J0RDANSCHAEFFER You're ignoring my point. If you don't *also* see how God is wholly other from us when you read the Bible, I don't know what to say.

@Calvy_CoG @J0RDANSCHAEFFER If you don’t see how God is like us when you read the Bible, I don’t know what to say

@J0RDANSCHAEFFER @rootcausesleuth No. There's no debate on the ontology of God being wholly other to creation.

@Calvy_CoG @rootcausesleuth Scripture says humans are in his image and likeness. What precisely that means may be up for debate. But claiming God is not like us is misleading and incomplete

@rootcausesleuth @J0RDANSCHAEFFER To be clear about what is meant when we affirm that we are like God (i.e. In what sense we are like God). Precision is extremely important.

@Calvy_CoG @J0RDANSCHAEFFER It’s so obvious it doesn’t need to be said. Why would you even ask that? Just to have an argument?

@rootcausesleuth @J0RDANSCHAEFFER Surely you can say "no" to that, right???

@Calvy_CoG @J0RDANSCHAEFFER

@J0RDANSCHAEFFER @rootcausesleuth So we are like God ontologically?

@Calvy_CoG @rootcausesleuth It means that the Bible says God created us like Himself. Not in every way of course, but the idea that God is "wholly other" contradicts what the Bible teaches

@J0RDANSCHAEFFER @rootcausesleuth Yes. Now what does that mean?

@Calvy_CoG @rootcausesleuth Gen 1:26 "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness..." The New King James Version (Ge 1:26). (1982). Thomas Nelson.

@just_keep_read How is that corruption transferred from person to person?

@Calvy_CoG Many non-Calvinists affirm a corruption of the will while rejecting total depravity/inability to believe in Christ. You say the nature is created good, so you have a reason this occurs despite this lack of corruption.

@just_keep_read If they receive justice for their wickedness, yes. Justice is the supreme good

@Calvy_CoG Living on Earth in sin and estranged from God is your definition of enjoying the supreme good?

Everything that exists was created for the purpose of displaying and enjoying the supreme good. God’s glory (His infinite worth, beauty, and excellence manifest) is the supreme good. Therefore, creation exists for the ultimate purpose of displaying and enjoying God’s glory.

@jpclemens @Curi_Christian I don't see how that follows at all. I'm still saying that man-post-fall, has a moral inability (which would reject the notion of semi-pelagianism), whilst also affirming that sin is not essential to human nature, which is why Jesus didn't sin.

@Calvy_CoG @Curi_Christian So you don't believe in original sin as commonly understood. I agree. That makes you a semi-Pelagian too, according to some who disagree with us.

@theo_bruv @Curi_Christian For clarity, is your position that man retains posse peccare et posse non peccare, post-fall? Or does the fall change something, such that sin is much more likely?

@Calvy_CoG @Curi_Christian Why does a series of coin flips inevitably eventually result in a head?

@just_keep_read Yes they will. All people receive grace to enjoy creation. However, some still reject this goodness and run to darkness.

@Calvy_CoG Anyone who is deprived of God’s grace, which enables belief, will not enjoy the supreme good