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@reformatrix Um…you might want to reread what he said

@rootcausesleuth …. That a man would advocate singing the Psalms?

Shocking and unbelievable

@thechurchsplit @JonKismetCalvin

@JonKismetCalvin Jordan - shut up you autistic badger.

Choice is a function of the intellect, and if you don’t have much of an intellect (like @thechurchsplit ) you may incorrectly assume that choice is a function of your greatest desire instead of something you are able to reason your way to.

@RefRetrieval Can you think of any scripture that asserts that Christ died to procure graces?

Objection. 1. If Christ died for all men, then all would believe; for Christ's death procures all graces, and in particular, faith; seeing then all men have not faith, either Christ did not die for them all, or else he loseth part of his purchase. I answer, that Christ's death is procurative of all graces, and particularly of faith, so far as it is a price; and it is a price so far, as it was paid down by Christ and accepted by God for that purpose; for in a price there must be, both sufficientia nuda [bare sufficeincy] , consisting in the intrinsical value of the thing: and sufficientia ordinata [ordained sufficiency], consisting in the intentional paying and receiving that thing as a price. Now Christ's death was paid down by him and accepted by God as a price with a double respect. As for all men it was paid and accepted as a price, so far forth, as to procure for them a ground for their faith, viz., that they might be saved on gospel terms. And as for the elect it was further paid and accepted as a price, so far as to procure the very grace of faith for them. Thus our Saviour Christ, who best knew both upon what terms he paid down the price, and upon what terms his Father received it, opens this mysterious dispensation; “I came down from heaven, saith he, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me,” (John 6:38), and what was that? As to all men, it was that every one that seeth the Son and believeth on him may have everlasting life, (v. 40); and as to the elect, it was that all those should by faith come unto him, (v. 37), and never be lost, (v. 39). Christ then died for all men, not so far forth as to procure the grace of faith, but so far forth as to procure salvation on gospel terms for them; therefore, albeit all do not believe, it follows not either that Christ did not at all die for them, or that he loseth part of his purchase; Christ's death is procurative of faith, not in reference to all, but to the elect.  —Edward Polhill, The Divine Will Considered in its Eternal Decrees, and Holy Execution of Them (London: 1695), 298-300.

@Ponderingpeon @Shh94888302 Ok

@rootcausesleuth @Shh94888302 Root, that can be read as you being rude. I am not saying that is your intention because I don't believe you ever set out to be that way. Tone is hard to read in written form.

@Ponderingpeon Responding to your post like this bc evidently Pamela blocked me and I couldn’t respond directly. I hear what you are saying. I don’t think unbelievers need to reform their lives to come to Christ. Nor do I think Christians need to keep the law. I’m feeling rather ill today, and I was truly shaken up by her accusations and then calling me a liar. I don’t expect and am not used to such behavior from “Christian” accounts. But maybe her belief that our actions don’t matter allows this kind of behavior. I truly appreciate what you shared, and that you would take the time to share it with me, and that means a lot and I don’t take offense. I appreciate you. Blessings 🫶🏽

@Ponderingpeon @Shh94888302 You’re right. I just wanted to point out the connection for you. 🙏🏼✌🏽

@rootcausesleuth @Shh94888302 Root, I understand how you feel. I want you to have peace though. Stewing on it isn't helpful.

@Benjamin_01X Oh! Yes! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@rootcausesleuth He's already authorised it. All of it. Even the stuff you 'make in your heart'. He gives us a new song to sing. We should sing it.

@MateyYanakiev 🙏🏼

Taking a break for a few days, friends. Would appreciate your prayers for greater closeness and better obedience to God!

@Ponderingpeon @Shh94888302 But it can be a license to treat people the way Pamela treated me

@Shh94888302 @rootcausesleuth Did I say that it was? Why is that always the default when the idea that a man's works are irrelevant to eternal life? I guess you no longer sin? I guess you love God 24/7 with your full being? That is the requirement of the first commandment. You can't slip even for a moment.

@rr74cm Excellent questions

@rootcausesleuth What are examples of songs that are authorized by Him? How does one get something authorized and how do we know if something has been authorized already?

@Benjamin_01X And, your point?

@rootcausesleuth Guess I'll just leave this here, then.

@rootcausesleuth Brave and stunning!

@troywojick @rr74cm @MattSmethurst @WesleyLHuff

@rootcausesleuth @rr74cm @MattSmethurst @WesleyLHuff ☝️☝️☝️ this is not said enough tbh.

The Lord didn’t check who inside the house was worthy. He checked for blood on the doorposts. None of us is worthy. Only the blood of Jesus can cover us.

@TChapman500 💯

@rootcausesleuth And completely false.

@Esoteric_Though True

@rootcausesleuth That guy can certainly say words.

@Generally_aware @_jonbowlin I think scripture says otherwise

@rootcausesleuth @_jonbowlin Except he can't violate his own character and nature and sinning would do that so... He can't actually. Not a forced limitation kind of can't, but a logical kind of can't.

God is not metaphysically UNABLE to sin. Jesus could have sinned. But neither of them would or will. Because it’s against their character of love. Jesus’ perfect life was a victory precisely because he COULD HAVE sinned. He was made like us in every way, except he didn’t choose sin. @breadznfishz @logosofagape @troywojick

@ThenIsaugh @HeritageSparks

@rootcausesleuth @HeritageSparks Yes, he was actually probably being serious. There is a contingent within the reformed that believe the only thing that should be sung, or at least primarily sung, are the scriptural Psalms.

If your Sunday morning sermon has any phrase thats not found directly in scripture, you're guilty of idolatry.

@rr74cm @troywojick @MattSmethurst @WesleyLHuff God is totally awesome

@rootcausesleuth @troywojick @MattSmethurst @WesleyLHuff That’s right. And it would have included any Egyptian that chose to reside in the house that evening as well. (Converts so to speak)

@CherylSchatz 💯

Private opinions can be wrong.

@milagracesmom 💯

Made oxtail soup for my baby son, but I keep eating it cuz it’s so good. 😦

@troywojick @rr74cm @MattSmethurst @WesleyLHuff

@rr74cm @rootcausesleuth @MattSmethurst @WesleyLHuff Exactly their obedient faith caused them to be saved from the angel of death / curse.