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@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad Oh an ad-hom, you poor baby

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad i didn't flex it to win the debate lmao, i brought it up because you went straight for the ad hom and said i clearly don't know what fascism is because i dared to state that fascism is a bastardisation of socialist thought.

"This is 1940 all over again! The very existence of our nation--its culture, its identity--is under threat!"

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad Then you're out here flexing the history degree for a cheap W, when we both agree fascism isn't socialism and vice versa. So yeah, next time save me the run-around

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad Yes, because they're opposite ideologies, their origins have fuck all to do with that. The distinction makes the original statement even more irrelevant, because why else would he bring that up in response to what I said if he wasn't trying to imply a similarity?

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad "i never said they're not distinct" Well this could have been over with faster

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad i never said they're not distinct. i've agreed with you that they're left-right opposites throughout this entire conversation. i said they use similar means to reach different ends because much of the framework is borrowed. which is prettymuch what the AI slop summary is saying.

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad Oh punish me history dissertation daddy The bit about them being fundamentally distinct is pretty important there no?

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad they're only opposites on the left-right axis. they are akin in many other regards. since i've already spoken about this you get a lazy AI answer as punishment for asking the same question twice both the USSR & PRC used nationalism over internationalism x.com/jakey_joke/sta…

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad Then you'd know fascism is far-right authoritarian ultranationalism, and therefore it cannot be akin to socialism in any way since socialism is a leftwing ideology

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad i studied hitler & mussolini's rise to power extensively during my history degree. i know a little bit about what fascism is given i wrote my dissertation on it. all socialist states are authoritarian, it is a requirement to keep order post-revolution.

@SaraHigdon @KirstiMiller30 @jk_rowling It is tied to something scientific, it has a significant neurological component. It is a neurochemical phenomena. But you can't admit it since your content relies on it so idk why you engage in discourse like this if your livelihood relies on you being dishonest

@DS_Gilbo @KirstiMiller30 @jk_rowling Gender is a meaningless concept if it's not tied to anything scientific, like sex, and is only based on sexist stereotypes and feels...

The idea that these people are still trying to claim that @jk_rowling is “transphobic” for saying “I know and love trans people” but sex is real, and to deny that stifles meaningful conversation is baffling to me. Like this is why the movement is a joke, and has lost almost all global support. Good job…

@SaraHigdon @KirstiMiller30 @jk_rowling I know what you can tell me- that you're completely full of shit, there are no 'leaders' of the trans community, it's just 0.1-1% of the world's population whose gender doesn't correspond to their sex, and that gender has a neurological component to it. Because that's reality

If you didn't know there are figure heads with large platforms who claim to speak for the entire group, then Idk what to tell you. They created the perception of the community that shapes the general publics opinion. Then retards like above parrot what they say and think it is true or has any scientific basis.

@KirstiMiller30 @SaraHigdon @jk_rowling Yeah, I didn't realise the trans community had 'leaders'. It's like when creationists accuse Charles Darwin or Richard Dawkins of being the king atheist or whatever

Apparently I am a trans leader according to Terfy here. Sex is 100% real trans women have XY chromosomes. But hormone treatment changes trans people in both physiological & physical performance terms. Men are on ave stronger than women due to the relative % of muscle vs. fat, and to power that extra muscle they have more oxygenating cells (haemoglobin) in the blood... All of which are controlled by hormones.

@SaraHigdon @jk_rowling Would it surprise you to learn that biological sex can indeed be controlled by hormones, such as in cases of male-pseudo hermaphroditism? Which is not the same as saying sex doesn't exist, as the person you're citing HAS NOW CLARIFIED HERE???

@DS_Gilbo @jk_rowling Literally last week, this isn’t hard to find. Veronica Ivy tried to claim it on Bill Maher, so it’s leaders in that community too. x.com/kirstimiller30…

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad ...No they don't. Again, socialism is mostly about wealth equality and controlled capitalism. No authoritarianism, no ultranationalism. And no, wealth taxation is not authoritarian Could you have just told me outright you don't know what fascism is so I can save some time

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad they use the same means to reach different ends. both are anti-capitalist ideologies in which party elites mobilise a zealously agitated public and then rule over totalitarian states. life for the average nazi german was more similar to the average soviet than the average brit.

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad They also don't change society in similar ways at all. One side seeks to increase equality, the other is an ironclad authoritarian regime under the guise of 'patriotism' or 'national pride' or whatever the modern day fascists use to hide their racism and control issues these days

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad The principle is the same, you're trying to make a link between two vastly opposing ideologies because one was made by a guy who used to belong to another. It's grasping at straws big time.

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad No, fascism coming from an ex-socialist doesn't mean that at all. They are wholly opposite ideologies, how can they be 'linked'? It's like saying MRI tech is linked to creationism because the guy who invented the MRI machine was a creationist.

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad if i were to argue "just because hitler took direct inspiration from italian fascism and borrowed much of its framework doesn't mean nazism has anything to do with fascism, it's just far-right scientific racism & antisemitism!", you'd be the first to laugh me out of the room

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad None of that means fascism has anything to do with socialism, that the left are the 'real fascists' or that it becomes anything other than what it is, which is far-right authoritarian ultranationalism.

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad he was expelled from the PSI over ww1 and created fascism afterwards in 1919, incorporating many socialist ideas (mass social movement, anti-capitalism, revolutionary sentiment) & blending with hypernationalism fascism is the bastard child of socialism created by an ex-socialist

@SVPhillimore But gender, gender identity and one's 'sense' of self as it pertains to gender is a neurochemical phenomena, akin to a neurodivergence. Which is why transgender states often occur alongside other neurodivergences. No anti-trans chud will go near that fact.

The moment your dad’s sperm meets your mum’s egg you will be male or female and that is instantly observable in pre birth scans. While you may face the negative consequences of sex stereotypes as you grow, it certainly doesn’t make you a prisoner of them. You may like whatever colours you wish! But you can never change your sex.

@erniewiseswig @jakey_joke @Sargon_of_Akkad Yeah neither of those things are true, the far-right literally lives in a cartoon world

@DS_Gilbo @jakey_joke @Sargon_of_Akkad Nope. Gentile invented it. Mussolini was thrown out of the socialists because he disagreed with them about war but he was very much a socialist. The nazi manifesto is also extremely socialist.

@jakey_joke @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad Except Mussolini invented it AFTER he TURNED AWAY from socialism. That doesn't mean fascism comes from/is equal to socialism in any way as this guy was trying to imply

@DS_Gilbo @erniewiseswig @Sargon_of_Akkad what he said is 100% factually correct lol

@AdamCooper9810 @MontgomeryToms And fascism isn't the answer to those problems! There's a cost of living crisis and you're advocating for a party that would cut the minimum wage in half, fuck's sake

@DS_Gilbo @MontgomeryToms You don’t have any point. You scream about far right but are blind to the problems in this country.

Today I am down at the 'together against the far right protest'. I am using their words against them, showing how dangerous it is to label millions of people with the term far right. Let's flip it back on them. Hitler was a far left socialist who believed in mass state control - I stand against that. Updates coming soon! Grassroots action is where the real battle takes place 💪🏻