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Damn Halen

Damn Halen

@Damn_Halen

Like Papa Wallenda said, 'life is on the wire; the rest is just waiting'

Nottingham Katılım Ağustos 2009
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@adiosmuchachos4 @SelfSpidey @TomEvans80 @mervynpervyn Roy Meadow testified that the mathematical probability of Sally Clark's innocence was 63 million to one against. Her first retrial failed too. The statistical evidence in the Letby case is a complete joke and just as farcical as Sally Clark in its presentation.
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@SelfSpidey @TomEvans80 @mervynpervyn You can ask all you like, then you can ask for all 17 cases. The killer hypothesis is the most likely conclusion. Mathematically possibly the only conclusion.
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That akward moment in a thirlwall opening statement when the results of the hospital's own blind study showed Lucy Letby on shift for just 50% of unusual collapses over Hummingbird's 100% and the results were NEVER SPOKEN OF AGAIN Did the Jury get to learn of this?
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@adiosmuchachos4 In addition to the baby F, the prosecution's chief medical expert changed his mind on cause of death during/after the trial for babies C, I and P. Easy to assert murder if one is allowed to change hypothesis on cause of death whenever encountering an inconvenient fact.
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@drphilhammond I think you've lost me Phil. If there had been competent police investigation and prosecution experts with any integrity there would never have been a Letby trial. The system time, resources and capacity wasted on junk like the Letby farce is partly why resources are stretched!
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Dr Phil Hammond 💙@drphilhammond·
In my view, the Letby verdict would have been very different with very different experts giving evidence. I doubt that makes it unfair, but as Mary Prior KC points out, the defence really struggles to get and pay for the experts it needs in complex clinical trials, and this needs to be urgently addressed (alongside her other point about the crisis in forensic testing). At the Letby trial, we can confidently say that the experts used on either side were not the cream of the crop when it comes to the current understanding of neonatal collapse and death. And the insulin tests used to convict her were hardly forensic. Apart from that, it was a fair trial. criminalbar.com/resources/news…
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@thatsnotmine125 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews 2/2 cont "It was clear that sound medical principles were abandoned in favour of over-simplification, over-interpretation, exclusion of relevant data and, in several instances, the imagining of non-existent findings"
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@thatsnotmine125 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews 1/2 The essence of Sam Gulino's evidence from Sally's second appeal will one day be repeated in relation to Dr Evans' evidence against Letby: "Throughout my review, I was horrified by the shoddy fashion in which these cases were evaluated."
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I think my @PrivateEyeNews column also shows why Lucy Letby was tricked into admitting the only explanation for the insulin test results was exogenous insulin. Not only were the prosecution experts arguing this, but her own defence experts. What else was she supposed to say, as a non-expert?
Dr Phil Hammond 💙@drphilhammond

In today’s @PrivateEyeNews, I reveal what each expert signed up to at the pre-trial joint expert meeting for Lucy Letby at Chilworth Manor on 5-6 August 2022. The stakes were high, and each expert signed the 16 page document as follows “This statement each signed by us is true to the best of our knowledge and belief and we make it knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence, we shall be liable to prosecution if we have wilfully stated anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.” The defence was outnumbered 4 to 2. There were strong disagreements about all of Dewi Evans’ theories but the prosecution only had to get the defence to come on board with one issue, and they did, with one defence expert deferring and the other one agreeing with the prosecution expert. The trial was effectively over before it began. The defence simply didn’t have the experts to contest every case, as they have now, and couldn’t put the experts they had on the stand because they agreed with the prosecution in one key area. What was it? For more, see @PrivateEyeNews

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@thatsnotmine125 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews No-one presented any doubt when Roy Meadow said 73,000,000-1 in Sally Clark's trial: this is exactly how miscarriages happen. We can either recognise and correct the systemic errors or pretend Letby is akin to Myra Hindley for the rest of her life for judicial expedience's sake.
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@thatsnotmine125 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews A fact would be: we performed a contemporaneous test of the TPN and it contained synthetic insulin. What you are presenting instead is a hypothesis that cannot ultimately be tested. We may reasonably (or unreasonably) differ in probabilistic analyses but this is opinion not fact.
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whatsinaname??@thatsnotmine125·
@Damn_Halen @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews The test was done, and the high insulin low cpep matched the clinical presentation. What is the more probable explanation? The infusion placed was the standard treatment for hypoglycaemia- why would the hypo not respond?
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@thatsnotmine125 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews It isn't a fact, because the tests that were needed to establish that were not performed. I would also suggest there are more probable explanations. Even the prosecution agreed that hypoglycaemia treatment was poor (misplaced lines, inadequate infusion), ofc it didn't respond!
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@Damn_Halen @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews Poisoning is a fact. The overwhelming evidence says so. The hypoglycaemia that didn’t respond to treatment that terminated along with the TPN, and the blood results are very compelling
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@thatsnotmine125 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews If you watch the original police interview on this subject, poisoning was presented to her as a fact. Her answer was something like "If you say so, but if it was it wasn't by me". The consultants steered and the police took direction. Unfair (class) bias was baked in very early.
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@drphilhammond More fundamentally, there wouldn't even have been a trial without a) the very faulty police investigation that was unduly shaped by the consultants b) selective commissioning of inculpatory-only expert advice and c) failure of the CPS to provide appropriate checks and balances.
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Dr Phil Hammond 💙@drphilhammond·
The moral of the story is clear. Pre-trial joint expert reports are in principle a good thing. But if one side has far more experts than the other, and the other side doesn’t have the right experts to contest every case, then the risk of an unfair trial is greatly increased.
Dr Phil Hammond 💙@drphilhammond

In today’s @PrivateEyeNews, I reveal what each expert signed up to at the pre-trial joint expert meeting for Lucy Letby at Chilworth Manor on 5-6 August 2022. The stakes were high, and each expert signed the 16 page document as follows “This statement each signed by us is true to the best of our knowledge and belief and we make it knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence, we shall be liable to prosecution if we have wilfully stated anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.” The defence was outnumbered 4 to 2. There were strong disagreements about all of Dewi Evans’ theories but the prosecution only had to get the defence to come on board with one issue, and they did, with one defence expert deferring and the other one agreeing with the prosecution expert. The trial was effectively over before it began. The defence simply didn’t have the experts to contest every case, as they have now, and couldn’t put the experts they had on the stand because they agreed with the prosecution in one key area. What was it? For more, see @PrivateEyeNews

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@LucyLetbyTrials @ClarkeMicah The CPS won’t announce new charges because it won’t countenance another trial, that can only fatally undermine the 2 previous trials (that it/MoJ relies on in every press release). The police knows this, hence the file was handed over so publicly. It will be quietly memory-holed.
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@NeoDoc11 Both the gross negligence manslaughter arrests and supplementary Letby file to CPS are bad faith actions to manage narrative that have no realistic chance of proceeding. The police's "concern" for families has magically melted under pressure to save their own skins.
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No new charges will be brought. The only exception would be if another “expert” - self nominated or not - were eager to sacrifice their professional reputation by offering nonsense testimony - and join the ever-growing hall of fame for disgraced expert witnesses.
Peter Hitchens@ClarkeMicah

If new charges are brought against Lucy Letby, as is suggested, what will the purpose be? Her sentence cannot be any longer or any tougher. Won't such charges distress any families involved? mol.im/a/15040127 via @DailyMail`,

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@NeoDoc11 If it goes back to CoA there will be no retrial. The statistical evidence has been shown to be junk; the ‘confession’ has been seen for what it is; Jayaram and Evans are critically compromised as witnesses and no-one else will back up Evans’ claims. What does the Crown have?
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Dr Svilena Dimitrova@NeoDoc11·
18 months ago I had little faith in the justice system. And now I have none. Everyone keeps going on about the Letby case going back to the Court of Appeal – but why? The very same Court of Appeal that already refused an appeal? The same court with judges who seem to have learned nothing despite multiple internationally embarrassing miscarriages of justice? The same judges who have no doubt been watching the developments and are definitely smart enough to be fully aware by now this is an unsafe conviction, yet have done nothing about it? Let’s not forget: the legal system was the key player in creating this mess. It gave a platform to people spouting nonsense, despite clear warnings. So should we really trust the legal system to mark its own homework? I believe we should push for government intervention instead. And given that our current government clearly doesn’t care about ordinary people, I continue to think that widespread international exposure and embarrassment is the only real way forward. When our health and justice systems are mocked in international interviews, maybe then justice will finally prevail. Who knows… 🤷🏼‍♀️ @drphilhammond @DavidRoseUK @DavidDavisMP @PeterElston1 @Michelehal7344 @MartynPitman @Voice4theDead
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@drphilhammond Without new expert testimony to support air embolus etc, a retrial would be so embarrassing and undermining to the police, CPS, judiciary etc that's it's very hard to imagine it happening. Lucy's convictions are more likely to be quashed.
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@drphilhammond The CPS website cites 3 evidence sources: a) the shift chart, b) 'confession notes' and c) medical evidence. A & B are discredited to the point of no return. Unless the CPS can bolster C with new experts to support Evans' theories it's quite hard to see another trial happening.
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Not only is Dewi Evans absolutely certain that Lucy Letby is guilty, he is absolutely certain his arguments would triumph again at appeal. However, I still think it’s worth having that appeal, just to be certain. And the sooner we have it, the better.
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@pope2023 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews And one of the other two - the medical evidence - hinges on diagnosis. A process that relies significantly on the interpretation and application of statistics.
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@pope2023 @drphilhammond @PrivateEyeNews The shift chart - a selective summary and visual representation of an underlying dataset for presentational/interpretational purposes - meets any professional definition of statistics. And it was one of three key evidence sources cited by CPS.
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Dr Mike Hall had plenty to say. He was Letby’s main expert, he prepared reports on all the cases, he sat through nearly all the trial and watched the rest on a link, he was the first to contact @PrivateEyeNews immediately after the verdict to say he didn’t believe her trial was fair because many of the babies were much sicker than the prosecution pretended and there were plausible alternative causes for the deaths and collapses. I have had no contact from Letby’s statiscian, but all the statisticians I know who have followed the case are equally embarrassed and ashamed by the statistical abuse in this case, and have given me a consensus view on all the mistakes which was published in @PrivateEyeNews. And of course, Professor Jane Hutton was originally engaged by the prosecution and then dropped when they realised her advice wouldn’t fit the narrative of guilt.
Courtwatcher@Courtwatch_Olly

@drphilhammond Lebty had a statistician instructed pre-trial, what happened to her ? Oh and what did the medical experts she had have to say ?

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@markgoldbridge It's reasonable to question, but they didn't "know the charges". They knew the allegations I'm sure, but that's quite a different standard to being charged.
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@Danjsalt And in terms of dependency/national security, where will the solar panels/polysilicon be produced?
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