Drew Zi

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Drew Zi

Drew Zi

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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@DavidDeutschOxf @Richie_OFarrell The post-modernists didn’t take this idea from Popper; They took a related idea from the idealists, especially Kant and Schopenhauer. Popper took this same idea and refined it and made it compatible with realism.
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David Deutsch
David Deutsch@DavidDeutschOxf·
Postmodernism has taken a deep truth from Popperian epistemology (namely experience is theory-laden and needs to be criticised), misunderstood it, and used it to justify the opposite (experience is infallible and mustn't be criticised).
David Deutsch@DavidDeutschOxf

Once you've learned that there are no assertions, only narratives, no truth but someone's truth etc, then you have a licence — indeed an obligation — to say any convenient thing and call it your truth. And care only about its effect on people, not its correspondence with reality.

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Nicole dso 🇺🇦
Nicole dso 🇺🇦@Nicoledso·
@Groves17Diana @dr_besty @GrahamC12967975 We pay the lowest taxes in Europe. That’s why you are supposed to have private pensions. The state pension is bare bones because the state doesn’t force us to pay much in. Thatcher called it small state and personal responsibility
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Graham Carroll
Graham Carroll@GrahamC12967975·
Labour have started calling the state pension a benefit. It is NOT a benefit. I paid NI contributions for 45 years to ENTITLE me to the lowest state pension in Europe and now SPADS are telling Reeves to means test this 'benefit'.
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Sydnee Goodman
Sydnee Goodman@sydsogood·
Congratulations @thegameawards @geoffkeighley on 10 years! And congratulations to all the winners and everyone who announced their projects! (esp the ones who entrusted me to do it 👼) Ty for everyone who tuned in! I’m so happy to be part of the celebration ✨🦋🥲😇🫡🧚‍♀️
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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@Kimalovia @beastmat3 @FightMate A false statement is still false even when it’s ‘an observation’. Can’t deal with criticism, don’t say owt.
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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@seanboisselle @DeutschExplains The best book of Popper’s to start with is probably conjectures and refutations. It’s a book of essays and talks he has done.
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boisselle@seanboisselle·
@DeutschExplains awesome quote! What's a good book to get started with Karl Popper?
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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@DeutschExplains It is incorrect to say that what Popper means by seeking out the truth is trying to locate errors. The goal is truth, we approach it by creating ever truer theories. The role criticism plays is showing us where we need to create better theories.
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Deutsch Explains
Deutsch Explains@DeutschExplains·
Part of this is what postmodernists call truth, and therefore conclude doesn't exist. Indeed, doesn't exist. So, this is a token of how radical a change Popper wrought on philosophy. The notion of truth in Popper's philosophy is different from that of postmodernism and of all traditional philosophy, where basically knowledge was defined as justified true beliefs. So, the critical attack on that, actually Popper attacks all three of those alleged properties of knowledge, but in particular, the attack on justification, which is not unique to Popper, forces one to conclude that justified true belief doesn't exist. And if you call that truth, then truth doesn't exist. But this isn't what we call truth in everyday life. What we mean by truth in everyday life is that if somebody tells me the shops are going to shut today because of lockdown, then that is a statement that's capable of being true or false. I can go and see whether the shop is open and shut. With perfect reliability, of course, a shop may look open, yet be shut, or vice versa. And there's no limit to how misled we can be. But nevertheless, it is meaningful to say that the statement that the shop is open is true, if and only if the shop is in fact open. This theory of truth is also not original to Popper. It's in a way the common sense theory of truth, but it was made systematic by the mathematician Tarski, who Popper recounts that he explained it to him while sitting on a park bench in Vienna. Interestingly, Popper says that he had built his philosophy of science initially without ever referring to truth, because he was afraid that critics would say that there is no such thing, or that you can't coherently talk about that sort of thing. And it was only when Tarski explained his theory of truth as correspondence to the facts, and explained to him that this could be made mathematically rigorous as well, using the idea of meta-theories, that Popper, I think with a sense of relief, rewrote his stuff to actually speak about theories being true. Of course, no theory that we can actually utter is going to be exactly true, so the notion of truth in Popper's philosophy has a slightly different role. When he says we are seeking the truth, he means we are seeking to correct errors. But when we correct errors, there are always other errors left that we haven't noticed, and also new errors introduced by removing the old error. So, we're seeking the truth means we're seeking to correct errors. But by that very fact, truth is a fundamental sort of regulating principle in the theory of knowledge, according to Popper. Not because we can obtain absolutely true propositions, but because there is a meaning to something being true or false. @DavidDeutschOxf
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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@arithmoquine I think The cells on the right tell you which cells on the left to use.
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henry@arithmoquine·
i showed this to my dad. he couldn't solve it. he's 57
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D.@Lush_Beauty1·
Men only
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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@FriedrichHayek @simianghost @DavidDeutschOxf You don’t know what you are talking about, many Popperians have engaged with this literature. There has been at least 50 years of dialogue between Popperians and their critics. *you* need to read the literature.
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TakingHayekSeriously
TakingHayekSeriously@FriedrichHayek·
@simianghost @DavidDeutschOxf Popperians ignoring those who have engaged Popper's ideas and smashed them to pieces like Hayek, Bartley, Hull, Mayr, Kuhn, and the whole massive literature of theories and explanation are a problem ..
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Sebastian Arnström
Sebastian Arnström@simianghost·
Casually dismissing Popper without actually engaging with his theories is something of a competitive sport in phil sci. It is embarrassing, and the reason why the field has been stagnant for almost a century (until @DavidDeutschOxf ‘s contributions).
Bill Vanderburgh@VanderburghBill

@simianghost No, we’ve known for many decades that’s Popper’s philosophy of science is an unworkable failure.

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Wilder Larkin
Wilder Larkin@LarkinWilder·
@ramzpaul Us older women just don’t want to see younger women with gross creeps that view them as property and a means to their own gratification.
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RAMZPAUL
RAMZPAUL@ramzpaul·
Older women hate younger women. A tale as old as time.
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Neil Evans
Neil Evans@NeilEvans033967·
@DavidDeutschOxf @leoalexart Extracting wealth from "employees" and paying wages sufficient for them to just about survive whilst, for all practical purposes, not being able to escape their "employment" is essentially coercion masquerading as "freedom". Capitalism is authoritarian and needs Popper. Cheeky?
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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@Richie_OFarrell What do you think corroboration is, it is a measure of the severity of tests… wtf.
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Richie O'Farrell
Richie O'Farrell@Richie_OFarrell·
If only Popper had considered the severity with which hypotheses are tested, he might have been onto something
Bill Vanderburgh@VanderburghBill

@simianghost I agree that Bayesianism is an unfortunate fad. But there is no progress according Popper, just so-far-unfalsified hypotheses.

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Drew Zi
Drew Zi@DrewZi3·
@Richie_OFarrell If you mean that humans create generalisations, then yes you are correct. But that does not mean we infer them from evidence. Hume’s argument shows that this is a contradiction.
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Richie O'Farrell
Richie O'Farrell@Richie_OFarrell·
People just *are* inductive inference engines. No, I am not going to read Hume.
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