Brayden Horton

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Oh look at that OPS+ as one of the main metrics for offense.

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Ok here is everything else. No my head would not explode if you introduced another star. In fact I have been begging you to do so

We show no bias over here with the mlb

@GbombM75819 @kingcryopunk @souljagoyteller Cool. Vegans are still participating in eradicating bugs.

@ElephantMan06 @kingcryopunk @souljagoyteller 80% of crops go to animal feed

Cause meat tastes good. Vegans are undoubtedly morally correct but meat is just a staple of the American diet

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Name everything else. OPS+ is one of the better statistics to use in terms of qyantifying a hitters value when compared to the league (wRC+ is better but your head would explode if I dared used that). You've literally only said Batting average so far.

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Like what. Like everything else. All you care about is ops+ meanwhile I care about everything. This has been the entirety of our disagreement in terms of offense. Show me everything show you ops+

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Oh like what. Looking at the fact that despite having more hits Judge slugs at a much higher clip? Wtf do you think OPS accounts for. All OPS+ does is compare it to the league and adjust for park factors.

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Nope. And it’s because I used more than batting average to make this determination

@kingcryopunk @souljagoyteller You do realize Vegans participate in the same market right. Do you think farmers don't eradicate bug populations for their crops?

@souljagoyteller Your bacon double cheeseburger only tastes amazing because it was $10 and not $25 like it would be under free market conditions. Not only are vegans right, they have full claim to the word psyop as far as I'm concerned.

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Luis Arraez is better than Judge than right?

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys With enough work you might get there one day. For now I’ll stick to this wild thing called batting average

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys It's the most common stat used nowadays lol.

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys I’m starting to suspect Brayden Horton is the inventor of the ops+ stat on a mission to replace it with every other offensive stat ever to exist

@KevinBCap @FoolishBB I mean he is pretty boring

@FoolishBB Are you calling Zuckerberg boring?

Not just the last true maverick owner in baseball, but possibly the last interesting billionaire in general.

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys OPS+ shows hes an above average hitter lol.

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Ok. Current Cy Young pace + current average hitter pace = Cy Young winner

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Now combine those 2 things.

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Buddy my first response to you was acknowledging his era could make him a Cy Young winner you can’t be serious

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Yep the meaningless other side of the ball that you just refuse to acknowledge as well

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Oh yeah, forgot avg, rbi, hr, ops, slg, the real offensive stat has always been ops+. And it’s always a flex to be in the top 40. It’s why you see it listed at end, after all those meaningless other stats

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys A 131 ops+ along with a Cy Young level pitching season is 100% mvp level. Did your parents drop you as a child?

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys How is it stupid, if he lets up 1 single run next start it is no longer below 1 era. You’re also really clinging onto this 131ops+ which doesn’t make you an MVP, and like all his other stats is not even in the top 20

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Name another pitcher in history that was a Cy Young front runner along with a 131 ops+. Also your whole "his ERA is barely below 1" is fucking stupid

@LACrinkle @ElephantMan06 @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys In the conversation is fine. But front runner is something else

@CrudeDude69 @RyanGarciaESM @TigersJUK No proof btw.

@ElephantMan06 @RyanGarciaESM @TigersJUK Again. My eyes. Yes he does. Most roid users don’t actually look like conseco did. He’s a cheat. Fuck him.

Let me see Aaron Judge play third base at 310lbs with one working knee & see what his WAR is

@CrudeDude69 @RyanGarciaESM @TigersJUK Again proof? He doesn't even have a stereotypical steroid build lol

@ElephantMan06 @RyanGarciaESM @TigersJUK Having eyes?

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys A sub 1 ERA over 23 starts is 100x more valuable than defense

@ElephantMan06 @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys If Cole was projected only 23 starts and was offensively producing half the runs that Judge was, Judge would be the MVP

@TotalPrattMove_ @Braves_Jerseys Because injuries happen.

@ElephantMan06 @Braves_Jerseys That’s my point. Why is anyone else being considered at all? Shohei won the MVP in 2024/2025 and I’m sure will win this year too No other player in these polls will have his pitching numbers. There’s no point to these polls. Unless something happens, it’s Shohei’s award to lose

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Cole would deserve that award 10/10 times lol.

@LACrinkle @ElephantMan06 @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys I would because he’d be competing with Aaron Judge

@antheyi @LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys He has a 131 OPS+ (expected stats show he's been unlucky) and is a Cy Young caliber pitcher. Literally any team would kill for either of those things.

@LACrinkle @AKarsten24118 @Braves_Jerseys Then he should win Cy Young. I agree that he doesn’t need to be as good of a hitter but he’s outside the top 100 in the league in avg and rbis, and not top 20 in any offensive stat

@TotalPrattMove_ @Braves_Jerseys He has a. 6 ERA rn bro. Olsons defense is awesome but could never make up for the pitching gap.

@Braves_Jerseys I’m confused why there’s so many comments about Shohei being a pitcher If that’s what sets him apart, then why do we even bother with a poll? Why give the MVP to anyone else? Of course no one else has his pitching record Either is whole thing is a farce or they’re biased