Elizabeth Grace Matthew

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Elizabeth Grace Matthew

Elizabeth Grace Matthew

@ElizabethGMat

✍️ @thehill, @americamag, @lawliberty, @deseret & more; wife of @sean_tamba; mom of 4

Katılım Ekim 2019
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XenniallTeach
XenniallTeach@XenniallTeach·
@ElizabethGMat @merrydevo So the women who live in Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and the province of Quebec are shallow and all those other things? It's not the cultural norm (and in some cases illegal) to take your spouse's name in these places and more
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Elizabeth Bennet
Elizabeth Bennet@LizzieBfromPnP·
@ElizabethGMat Translation: I recognize the sexism inherent in this practice, but am not brave enough to challenge it because I value social conformity more. Also, I need to make myself feel better about the fact that my husband never would have married me if I hadn't agreed to take his name.
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Elizabeth Grace Matthew
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat·
When you get married, if it’s a marriage that means more to both of you than a legal merger, there’s no “his” and “mine” anymore. I would tell my sons not to marry any woman to who wasn’t eager to take his name. NOT because I care in theory whether they take his or hers. But because in practice it’s a sign that she has a view of marriage that’s something other than the kind of oneness on a single team that you should have with a spouse.
Jill Filipovic@JillFilipovic

I truly hate this argument, which assumes men simply have names but women’s are all somehow men’s. By this logic, it’s not your dad’s name either - it’s his dad’s. And not his either - his dad’s. Your name is actually your name. And yes of course women should have the legal right to change their names in marriage but let’s please not lie to ourselves that marital name-changing isn’t incredibly sexist and a very literal manifestation of patriarchal power. So is patrilineal naming for children, btw. One answer to “but it’s my dad’s name” might be to stop giving children dad’s name for a while.

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SouthsideTilly
SouthsideTilly@SouthsideTilly·
@ElizabethGMat @forestofcake We can make this country matrilineal & we will do it, one name change refusal at a time. Women do all the work in pregnancy after all.
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NAB Smith-Harris
NAB Smith-Harris@nabsharris·
@ElizabethGMat Yeah again that is illogical. You are demanding she see his name as hers but not he see her name as his. Insisting on both having joined names ok but asymmetric sharing is not marriage. If one keeps identity so does other. And vice verse.
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Elizabeth Grace Matthew
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat·
Correct. But it would also be fine it if was matriarchal. As in, if I had a daughter in a society where naming was matrilineal, I would tell her to run from any man who wouldn’t take her name, same as I’d tell my son to run from a woman who wouldn’t take his name here. Because it is not about the name. It is about the disposition to recognize that there is no him vs her and only us vs the world.
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Ivana Greco
Ivana Greco@IvanaDGreco·
Homeschool today. We are bringing a meal to friends with a large family expecting a new baby, and so the older boys and I (in addition to school) are having a lesson on planning, shopping for, and cooking a big meal.
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Elizabeth Grace Matthew
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat·
If I were from place where naming was historically and normatively matrilineal, I’d tell my daughter to run from any man also from there who wouldn’t take her name. There’s something wrong with him/he’s not husband & father material. To upend the norm, he has to put himself ahead of you as a couple/think that marriage is him vs. her rather than us vs. the world. Run.
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat

I’m not talking about women who keep their last names after marriage for practical/professional reasons or who are from countries where that’s the norm. There are plenty of reasons to keep your name in various contexts that are just prudent. I’m talking about women who follow the @JillFilipovic reasoning, for whom this is some kind of facile, infantile, incoherent “but we’re still two individuals/l’m not property/down with patriarchy” self-expression. Marriage has no room for that nonsense. It’s is not him vs. her. It’s him & her vs. the rest of the world.

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Elizabeth Grace Matthew
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat·
Oh, sorry, thought that covered it. If you’re infantile enough to put “what we want to do” ahead of the norm that indicates you are a family, you’re not marriage material. Practical reasons notwithstanding! If I’d gotten married 10 years later, I’d prob have legally & professionally kept by name! But I also wouldn’t, like, correct my kids’ friends.
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🌟 Vida Angeleña🌟
🌟 Vida Angeleña🌟@LifeStarMedia·
@ElizabethGMat @abike1999 Choosing to do something differently doesn't mean the status quo is "wrong"... It just may not be what that couple wants to do. And different cultures have different traditions around marriage and names.
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Elizabeth Grace Matthew
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat·
@preachysnow Right that’s why I don’t care in theory. I could be from somewhere else and everyone takes the woman’s name and that’s great! But I’m not, which is why in practice it doesn’t work like that!
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Rey
Rey@preachysnow·
@ElizabethGMat Then the same can apply in reverse. He can take her name to signify the commitment to the union. Women taking men's name in marriage is cultural. It isn't practiced everywhere.
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Elizabeth Grace Matthew
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat·
Alright, no one is more opposed to the @JillFilipovic inanity on this than I am. THAT SAID, doesn’t this just show that the same couples who are willing to share last name are also more likely to stay married? As in, it’s not the name but the why? Reminds me of claims about nfp making marriages stronger. Which seems dubious; it’s just that couples willing to do nfp were going to have strong marriages anyhow.
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Lyman Stone 石來民 🦬🦬🦬
Can sharing a last name save your marriage? Couples who share a surname: 1) Divorce 30-60% less 2) Stick together 2-4 years longer even if they do eventually divorce 3) Have slightly higher reported relationship quality Sorry @JillFilipovic -- it may be worth considering!
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Elizabeth Grace Matthew
Elizabeth Grace Matthew@ElizabethGMat·
He doesn’t want norms of any kind. Norms are constructed. Everything constructed is bad. (Never mind that it’s constructed norms and their codification into laws that ensures the societal order that allows for women to live mostly free of the endemic violence that would be our lot otherwise).
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Neeraja Deshpande
Neeraja Deshpande@neerajadeshp·
@JamesSurowiecki @ElizabethGMat The norm if changed would not be equality, it would be women’s last names being the default for their husbands and children. From patriarchy to matriarchy. Otherwise you end up with jumbled contradictions.
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