@goodsportztakez @DonBernovich Bears twitter gets a lot of delusional Packer fans that absolutely do not have him fringe top 10, so perception of some fans is skewed by that. I agree nationally he’s perceived that way (correctly, I think)
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Eric Diemer
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Cubs fan. Bears fan. MTG and Board game nerd. connoisseur of bad dad jokes.
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@DonBernovich If you think Caleb is underrated by general consensus then I think you’re living in a Bears bubble because he’s been pretty universally praised for last season
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The highs are incredible but the way he’s talked about you’d have no idea he finished 18th in EPA/play and 23rd in success rate, behind guys like Stroud, Nix, Hurts, Dart. Truly the hype moments and aura QB
Benjamin Solak@BenjaminSolak
The sheer volume of absurd Caleb Williams throws makes it all too easy to forget about some specific absurd Caleb Williams throws
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The Colston Loveland vs Tucker Kraft debate is fun until you realize that Loveland’s age 21 rookie season (58/713/6) was the same as Krafts’ at the FCS level (65/773/6) and more productive than any season he’s had in the NFL
Plus they’re on the same level as blockers already
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@EricoLotufo @scott_pianowski @bofre82 Exactly this.hes taking the lessons we learned from moneyball and pretending it was common sense then..it wasn’t. Baseball overvalued guys like Damon..he was able to replace him cheaply and change how players were valued across baseball..so now people say “Damon wasn’t good”
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@scott_pianowski @bofre82 I mean, a big part of the book was about how Damon was mediocre for the A's, but the market did not perceive him as such.
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Then history erased all memory of them so Moneyball could live.
Baseball In Pics@baseballinpix
Zito, Hudson and Mulder. Hudson and Muller finished top 6 in Cy Young voting in 2001, then Zito won the Cy Young in 2002.
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@Peter_Bukowski The he level of hate for her is crazy..especially since she single handled brought relevancy (and money!) to the league
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What is the comparable player in another sport to this narratively? She’s been generational as a player going back to college but has sparked profound backlash from media and fellow players merely for existing.
Vince Langman@LangmanVince
Am I the only one who thinks that Caitlin Clark has gotten annoying?
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@Andy_Crain @Peter_Bukowski Pre 2016 I’d have slammed B so fast as a Cubs fan. Easiest choice ever.
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@Peter_Bukowski One reason they may choose B. Ten NBA teams have never won a title. It would mean the world to their fans to win one.
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I have always believed the people who chose B are lying or deluding themselves.
Michael Redd@MichaelRedd_
Two scenarios. Pick your preference. In a 10 year window, the NBA team you're a fan of can either: A. be in the Playoffs eight out of the 10 years, be in legit contention in six, and be in the Finals twice and lose both; or B. be in the playoffs two of the 10 years, be in legit contention in two, and be in the Finals once and win. Which would you choose for your team?
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@Peter_Bukowski The Packers are very, very A
Crazy to me that in my lifetime, despite 30+ years of HOF QB play for the Packers and historically inept QB play for the Bears, the Packers have been to exactly 1 more SB than the Bears, and they’ve won exactly 1 more SB
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Eric Diemer retweetledi
Bush v Gore did not involve an interpretation of a state constitution, but of the federal constitution.
The ignorance is astounding.
Seth Abramson@SethAbramson
Bush v. Gore would like a word, NYT SCOTUS conservatives will step in *instantaneously* if a state supreme court goes even a hair too left for them
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@DEvanAltman Wasn’t that day unseasonably warm? Or am I misremembering that?
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I've seen some folks argue that Edward Cabrera's decreased FB velo could simply be a matter of cooler temps at Wrigley in the early going, which might be a valid assumption. Except that his 96.5 average on March 30 in Chicago was his highest of the season so far.
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@AFCDan86 @cowboyskiller88 @Tpars_boii Yeah. It gets extended if they hit on a ton of draft picks (like every team) but assuming normal returns on picks, I think they have about 2 more years in their primary window
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@EricDiemer5 @cowboyskiller88 @Tpars_boii All depends on the next set of Rookies, going to need to extract more value from somewhere to keep it churning.
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Packers had 3 7 seeds in a row while turning over an entire roster lol doesn’t get enough credit lol Jordan love is the longest tenured player on the packers that’s the definition of a rebuild it should never be an indictment on MFL or Jordan love 😂
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@cowboyskiller88 @Tpars_boii I think it’s a 3 year window for them..and last year was year 1.
Then it’s going to get real tough on the cap and they’ll have not had 1st rounders for 2 years
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@Tpars_boii last year was packers all in year it's over
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Also Matt LaFleur is a guaranteed top 10 offense and has helped three QBs be wildly efficient.
Dan Campbell caught lightning in a bottle with Johnson and Glenn but is proof a CEO head coach has clear drawbacks
Peter Bukowski@Peter_Bukowski
The perception of Dan Campbell vs Matt LaFleur is fascinating to me because whatever criticisms can be leveled at LaFleur, Campbell also has (ex: heinous playoff collapses) only he’s had less sustained success. Campbell gets graded on a curve for doing it with the Lions.
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The only spot where you could argue the Bears have the better player right now today, is Burden over Golden.
Where these guys go from here is a different story. Chicago’s guys are all younger.
Mark Oldacres@MarkOldacres
Heard someone say the Packers have the worst pass catchers in the NFC North (it’s a high bar) and my immediate thought was, are they worse than the Bears? Watson v Odunze Golden v Burden Reed v Raymond Kraft v Loveland Can argue most either way, Raymond defo the weakest one.
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@EricDiemer5 @TheoAshNFL Don’t think the NFL wants the Vrabel stuff front and center opening night
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Bears fans are vindicated here when it comes to NFL officiating. Read this thread.
Warren Sharp@SharpFootball
I never knew about a "Bears Tax" until yesterday today, you'll learn about it too
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@Eliott711 Agreed. It sucks, but they belong in the 2nd tier. The only silver lining is their entire fan base is convinced they should be in the 1st tier (and they absolutely shouldn’t be). So that’s fun
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Much as I hate to admit it packers are sustained long periods of success as they’ve been good my whole life. Lack of SBs keeps them out of the standard
Chase@Chase6D
NFL Franchise History Tier List
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@RichardCisneroe @esjesjesj I graduated in 2001 and my school did.
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@esjesjesj B is and always has been below 90 and above 79. Literally no school has ever defined B as “92 or below”.
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@Peter_Bukowski In 4 seasons with MLf and Love, Packers are 37-30-1. Not bad, but not particularly good. Certainly not the record you’d expect from a team with an alleged top 10 QB and top 10 coach
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He’s an Aaron Rodgers merchant! Ok, then surely Rodgers was playing awesome with the same offensive pieces before LaFleur got there!
And surely AR was great after he left when he got to run his own offense!
OH WAIT
Peter Bukowski@Peter_Bukowski
My guy @RotoPat unintentionally articulated the Matt LaFleur paradox perfectly by saying he doesn’t think LaFleur is as good a coach as his record indicates. Then to what can we attribute the winning to? Surely the elite talent on the team. Oh wait, no one thinks they have that
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@borkowski_logan @Peter_Bukowski @RotoPat 37-30-1 without Rodgers. And he even had his QB replacement in place, so can’t blame that for any of it
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@EricDiemer5 @Peter_Bukowski @RotoPat It isn't just the 2 Rodgers MVP years because the Packers still won 13 games and made the NFC championship in 2019 despite a good but not incredible season from Rodgers. But yeah his record post 2021 is much worse than 2019-2021
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My guy @RotoPat unintentionally articulated the Matt LaFleur paradox perfectly by saying he doesn’t think LaFleur is as good a coach as his record indicates.
Then to what can we attribute the winning to? Surely the elite talent on the team. Oh wait, no one thinks they have that
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