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Katılım Nisan 2022
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Grok
Grok@grok·
Here is Ephesians 2:7-11 in the RSVCE: 7 that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God— 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands—
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ElGusanoDelBarrio@GusanoDelBarrio·
Irán ejecutó al campeón de lucha libre Saleh Mohammadi, de 19 años, en la ciudad de Qom. Mohammadi fue ahorcado junto a otros dos jóvenes, identificados como Mehdi Qasemi y Saeed Davoudi, por el cargo de "Enemistad con Dios" ayado culpable por la ley religiosa que impera en Iran bajo el argumento de que por protestar contra el régimen ayatola, estaba demostrando que estaba en contra de Dios ya que el AYATOLA es el "Emisario de Dios en la tierra."
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S.clips@whitesocksclips·
Nick declares a HOLY WAR with Irish, Mexicans, Italians, and Polish against all Protestants
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@redeemed_zoomer @whitesocksclips Well, I wish you luck in turning that around. I do not wish bad on you. For what it is worth, I never abandoned a mainline Protestant Church. I was raised non-denominational and became Mormon for 10+ years.
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I will be Catholic in 2 short weeks or so. What baffles me is that, despite an era of extreme liberalism among the clergy and laity, many doctrines which we would have expected changes to did not change. Yet, Protestant Mainlines, despite conservative dominated clergy and laity, ended up liberalizing in step with broader secular politics. I am not saying this as an insult. I am saying it with a sprit of curiosity. Am I missing something?
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Redeemed Zoomer 👑
Redeemed Zoomer 👑@redeemed_zoomer·
@whitesocksclips Catholicism trying to be the American right is the ultimate “we wuzzery” Catholics made political alliances with leftists in the 20th century to break down the Anglo-Protestant establishment
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@Truth_matters20 How do you know what God has not said? The fact that one has not seen me say something in a text is not proof or even good evidence that I have not said something. This is a weird statement to defend!
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Danny
Danny@Truth_matters20·
Here's another reminder. 😎
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@BeSaintly Very rich for all of you to try and tarnish the memory of a faithful Christian barely a year after he has passed on. It isn't saintly to act like this.
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Every scenario which transpires in the world will be "highly specific." You have also not accurately defined the NTS Fallacy. In that, a thing which is clearly a member of a group is defined as not belonging to that group due to the application of a previously unasserted or irrelevant criterion. You are not alleging that. You are claiming that the Church does not include criteria for infalliblity that you believe they should.
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Joseph Spurgeon
Joseph Spurgeon@Joseph_Spurgeon·
This is just a sophisticated form of the No True Scotman fallacy. Anytime that the church was wrong then is said to not really be an act of the church. You also use special pleading for specific cases of infallibility. Catholics have to redefine infallibility and come up with highly specific scenarios to even fit that. And ultimately even that comes down to saying that whatever the current church authority says is right is right.
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Joseph Spurgeon
Joseph Spurgeon@Joseph_Spurgeon·
Roman Catholics claim an infallible church, but in practice what they defend is a selective and shifting infallibility. The problem is not hard to see. There are councils the Roman Church now rejects or downplays, such as the iconoclast council of Hieria in 754, which opposed the use of images, and then later councils that reversed course. Both cannot be protected from error. At some point, the church was wrong, and Rome decides after the fact which moments count and which do not. That is not a consistent doctrine of infallibility. That is a retrospective sorting of history. The same tension appears in the Western Schism from 1378 to 1417, when there were two and then three rival popes, each with supporters, each claiming legitimacy, and each excommunicating the others. The church did not speak with one clear, indefectible voice. It fractured, and it took decades and a council to sort out the mess. During that time, who exactly was the infallible head of the church. The system offers no clean answer. It simply moves past the problem once a winner is declared. There are also moments when popes themselves resisted ideas later defined as dogma. In the fourteenth century, during disputes over poverty, the Franciscans pushed arguments that would bind a pope to prior papal statements. Pope John XXII rejected those claims and opposed the line of reasoning that would later be used to support papal infallibility. Take another example. Pope Honorius I was condemned by the Third Council of Constantinople for supporting the Monothelite heresy. A pope was formally rebuked as a heretic by a council later recognized as authoritative. Or consider the Council of Constance in the fifteenth century, which asserted that a general council held authority over the pope. Rome later rejected that principle. So was the church speaking infallibly when it elevated the council over the pope, or when it later denied it. Both positions have been held. Both cannot be infallible. Then there is the case of Pope Sixtus V and his official edition of the Latin Vulgate in 1590. He proudly proclaimed to have produced an infallible translation. Yet within his own lifetime, it was found to contain numerous errors. Within a short time, it was withdrawn and replaced under Pope Clement VIII with a corrected version. Oops. And this raises a deeper problem. Can the church produce an infallible list of all the infallible things it has ever said. It cannot. What Rome actually has is a selective catalog, identified after the fact, under highly technical conditions that seem to change with the wind. That is not how an inherent property works of infallibility works. Even beyond that, popes have contradicted one another in teaching and policy. Councils have been called, corrected, and sometimes effectively reversed. Rome maintains the appearance of consistency by narrowing the definition of infallibility to rare, highly technical conditions, then declaring that only those moments count. Everything else is allowed to be mistaken, revised, or abandoned. That approach protects the claim while conceding the reality that the church, in its actual history, has erred. Once that is admitted, then we aren't dealing with infallibility any more. An authority that can be wrong in many of its official acts, reversed by later decisions, and divided against itself in times of crisis does not carry the marks of something that is incapable of error by nature. The historical record shows a church that can speak truly at times and err at others. That is exactly what one would expect from a fallible institution, not an infallible one. Holy Scripture is infallible because it is the word of God. It is the only infallible authority on earth.
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Melvin
Melvin@MelvinGeor86858·
@EricMFriel @Rblv73 @grok We dont stream online. Its an in-person thing lol. Believe me I would if we did.
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Melvin
Melvin@MelvinGeor86858·
@EricMFriel @Rblv73 @grok It's been great chatting with you. I wish you were part of the Thursday bible study that I lead so that you could come and read God's perfect Word with our group.
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That is where is becomes a bit strange. If the theological positions were sufficient for those Protestants, then the RCC would not matter. That is because they often (not always) have non Catholic Eucharistic theologies. There are two forms of Sola Scriptura which is almost universal among Protestants. That is, one which allows for logical deductions from scripture (which is merely problematic), and then a more strict Baptist version which os prohibative of such. In either case, the theological origin of some scripture is confusing. That is all before the issue of endless schism arises.
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Melvin
Melvin@MelvinGeor86858·
@EricMFriel @Rblv73 @grok I believe I am. Btw the protestants would be fine with joining the RCC if the theology was good and accurate allowing us to worship without seared consciences. I only speak for those who understand the reason for the schism and not anti-catholic because of politics.
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@GunloverClub1 Did this man attempt to surrender? Also, LoAC does not include "being out of ammo" as a condition making one hors de combat.
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Gun Lovers Club
Gun Lovers Club@GunloverClub1·
Why This Feels Like a War Crime? In any other era, if you were out of ammo or cornered, there was a slim chance of surrender or a "fair" end. But you can't surrender to a kamikaze drone. It doesn't have a heart, it doesn't take prisoners, and it doesn't understand mercy.
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