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New book review on a fascinating book which I've been posting snippets of over the past few days. Usually book reviews would be for paid subs, but I thought this topic was too important to be put behind a paywall, so its open to all. The predominant narrative of World War 2 amongst the youth now is that Churchill was a drunk who got himself in debt, only to be bailed out by wealthy Jews in return for him agitating for war with Germany. But he suited such a role for a reason. His philosemitism was a lifelong phenomenon inherited from his father, who was also bankrolled by wealthy Jews. Churchill in his early years in Parliament would die on the hill of allowing Jewish mass-immigration and crossed the floor over the matter, joining the Liberals. There were anti-Jewish riots in Wales in 1911 and here Churchill was ready to send in the army with excessive force. Even before the Balfour Declaration, Churchill was perhaps Britain's most prominent Zionist and then, in the interwar years, he essentially carried Zionism on his back whilst almost every other politician wished to be rid of the matter. Would Israel even exist without Winston Churchill? After the war, Churchill would continue to shape the future of Israel by always speaking out in their favour, whilst all his colleagues drifted further into the pro-Arab camp. A fascinating story with something for everyone and a mountain of gem quotes. Link below!

@Josh29842 @PeepsJoey23490 @Nessieisreality @ppow84 @ObviousElk @gaemsae Jews, ukrainians and other groups were generally treated simply as "soviet civilians" without a clear distinction based on ethnicity, this may have caused confusion in the census

@PeepsJoey23490 @Nessieisreality @ppow84 @ObviousElk @gaemsae In secret - meaning unseen from western eyes and media. None of the plebs in the free world of Levi's blue jeans caught wind of what was going on there

1/n In the last month @Josh29842 has posted three dozen tweets (!) attacking Bełzec on the same move: Yitzhak Arad's 1987 textbook map shows camp buildings and Andrzej Kola's 1997-99 archaeology map shows mass graves, but the two don't overlay perfectly, so it's all fake. The argument is super problematic for a ton of reasons. Putting aside all the physical evidence, Bełzec wasn't a single static camp. It was rebuilt twice across sixteen months, the wooden gas chambers were demolished mid-1942 and replaced with a stone building on the same site. Then in late 1942 the SS used an excavator to reopen graves to burn the bodies. Kola in 1999 read the cumulative aftermath of all of that, on the same plot of ground. There is no single wartime layout to overlay against. Walking through it...

@Josh29842 @alfromaus @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Nahum Goldmann shows how they had to persuade allies to judge even those who didn't make the important decisions. As he himself writes, this was revolutionary

@Josh29842 @alfromaus @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae If they had simply killed all the officers, it would have been more complicated to prove everything, even the soviets knew this and held the Krasnodar Trial because of it (and again, with absurd allegations)

@Josh29842 @ppow84 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Yeah this also occurred before Hoettl's declaration

@Howd2375 @ppow84 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Here is a letter to the War Refugee Board where 6 million pops up. 2 Aug 45. How far along had the investigation gone by then?

@ppow84 @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Nahum Goldmann, who admitted that the WJC was behind the Nuremberg Trials, said as early as December 1944 that 6 million had died, shortly afterwards the main soviet propagandist gave the same number Important figures reporting the number before any investigation was carried out

@Howd2375 @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Nope, it wasn’t. I’ve already heard and deboonked this argument from you. The number was constantly changing.

@ppow84 @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae No, the number 6 million emerged even before the end of the war and the investigations, it was already a consensus before the studies

@Howd2375 @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae SS bureaucrat with the greatest visibility into the killing claims number that is then confirmed independently, must be a coverup.

@ppow84 @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae But didn't Höttl say that Eichmann stated the number was 6 million? So it is 6 million, the number has been sanctified

@Josh29842 @Howd2375 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Between 5.7 and 6.3 million, I believe. It’s not an exact science given the coverup and fog of war, and expecting it to be is a clear tell of arguing in bad faith. Can you enumerate how many were precisely killed in the Holodomor? No? Never happened then.

How many people know that at Nuremberg the Germans were accused of, along with killing about six million Jews: Vaporizing 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz with “atomic energy” Killing 840,000 Russian POWs at Sachsenhausen concentration camp (in one month, with special pedal-driven brain-bashing machines, no less), then disposing of them in mobile crematoria Torturing and killing Jewish prisoners to the tempo of a specially composed “Tango of Death” in Lvov Steaming Jews to death like lobsters at Treblinka Electrocuting them en masse at Belzec Making not only lampshades and soap but also handbags, driving gloves, book bindings, saddles, riding breeches, gloves, house slippers, etc. from the remains of their victims Killing prisoners and concentration camp inmates for everything from having armpit hair to soiled underclothing? PDF: drive.google.com/file/d/1m8Vyuz…

@Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Yes. It's also possible that Irving adopted part of the narrative for those reasons, it's understandable after everything he went through 300k dead in Auschwitz and 2.2 million in the Reinhard camps, is that serious?

@Howd2375 @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Human nature only applies when the argument for human nature supports the position that the germans committed a holocaust against the jews. You must have forgotten that, @Howd2375

@Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @gaemsae @ppow84 @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 Otto Frank could have come out of hiding to help jews

@Nessieisreality @gaemsae @ppow84 @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @PeepsJoey23490 Think about it They fled to avoid arrest and went into hiding So in order to defend those who were caught, they should come out of hiding? And what, get arrested or assassinated? You know that defeats the purpose of going into hiding, right? Maybe im wrong.

@Nessieisreality @Josh29842 @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae Not all were tortured, some lied for convenience to avoid harsher sentences/persecution, others lied for money, etc. Physical integrity came before the truth, and others wanted to project the image of a "good guy" like Pfannenstiel with that unbelievable incident with Globocnik

@Howd2375 @Josh29842 @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 @gaemsae I am referring to after the war. Deniers expect everyone to believe that all SS camp staff were cowards who could be forced to lie and hide exculpatory evidence & admit to a crime that did not happen. If millions of Jews did not die, that would leave a lot of evidence.

Stephan Ross, who survived being transferred to ten "extermination camps." His claims included: - Being born vaginally into a bucket of urine - Medical experiments involving enemas and drinking acids - Obtaining food via prostitution - Hiding himself in the contents of an outhouse during the “selection” process and washing himself off with piss - Thirsty children being molested by camp guards - Consuming bug soup - Eating dead prisoners with lids from sardine cans. I just wonder how those pajamas grew right along with him… Short thread 🧵👇🏻

New Lies for Old by Anatoliy Golitsyn, a high-ranking ex-KGB defector, contains some truly chilling passages on Soviet Operation Trust. The OGPU created a fake “anti-Bolshevik” monarchist group inside Russia called the Trust. They claimed it had penetrated the highest levels of the army and government, that communism was “dead,” and that the regime was quietly evolving into a moderate nationalist state through the NEP “concessions.” They told Russian émigrés to stop fighting, trust the “plan,” and accept that the regime was collapsing from within. They urged them to return home, adopt a passive stance, and increase trade and diplomatic ties with the Soviets. It lured in real opponents, spread disinformation, exposed threats, and bought the Bolsheviks precious time to consolidate power. Sound familiar? Golitsyn warned the West decades ago about long-range communist strategic deception.

@Josh29842 @TheRealFounding @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 Gerstein and Pfannenstiel were not jewish, so it is not antisemitism to say that they are liars

@Howd2375 @TheRealFounding @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 He was telling the truth! Read his report! Maybe jews are like cats they've got 9 lives?

@TheRealFounding @Josh29842 @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 @Josh29842

@Howd2375 @Josh29842 @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 And? 🤷‍♂️

@TheRealFounding @Josh29842 @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 According to him 25 million Jews were gassed, in a world where there weren't even 20 million

@Howd2375 @Josh29842 @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 Thanks for illustrating my point.

@TheRealFounding @gaemsae @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 I can try to imagine Hitler wearing a kippah, but I can't believe it

@Howd2375 @gaemsae @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 I'm merely pointing out that your Hollywood history of the Nazis, all shining perfection and rigidly obedient, wasn't quite the case. Like many of your points they're strawmen, or arguments from incredulity. "I can't believe he would have done X" or "I can't believe X happened".

@Josh29842 @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 Have you read about Gerstein's biography? He had a history of conflict with the party, but even after all those conflicts they allowed Gerstein to visit the pure extermination camp in Poland, that's what I call trustworthiness

@Howd2375 @gaemsae @Nessieisreality @TheRealFounding @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 Yeah this isnt what the movies always portrayed. Hitler was a ruthless dictator and all of his officers were like little hitters or they were axed, like yankel woernik axed the guard who shot him but the bullet just bounced off after passing through his clothes.

@TheRealFounding @gaemsae @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 What does this have to do with anything? Pfannenstiel didn't refuse an order from Globocnik, he did worse and accused him (and consequently Hitler) of being criminals Perhaps Belzec wasn't so bad after all, or perhaps the nazis were actually democratic. Choose one

@Howd2375 @gaemsae @Josh29842 @Nessieisreality @ObviousElk @ppow84 @PeepsJoey23490 It was, but that doesn't mean orders weren't delayed, obstructed, and even occasionally ignored. If you believe all Nazis followed all orders instantly, and to the letter, you aren't much of a student of human nature. Which, incidentally, you're not.