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Scott Burchill

@IRanalyst

Dr Scott Burchill taught the theory of International Relations for over 30 years and analyses international politics. Honorary Fellow of Deakin University.

Melbourne & Paris Katılım Ocak 2009
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Andy Burnham voted for the Iraq War, an illegal war that killed over a million people. As Health Secretary, he helped drive NHS privatisation. He joined Labour Friends of Israel, opposed BDS as “spiteful”, praised Israel as a “democracy”, and called the Balfour Declaration “British values in action”. He is a Zionist. Stop pretending he’s a radical alternative, he’s more of the same.
Andy Burnham@AndyBurnhamGM

I can confirm that I will be requesting the permission of the NEC to stand in the Makerfield by-election. I grew up in this area and have lived here for 25 years. I care deeply about it and its people. I know they have been let down by national politics. Ten years ago, I decided to leave Westminster. Why? Because, after 16 years, I came to the conclusion that our national political system does not work for areas like ours. I learnt this fighting its failure to invest in the Wigan borough, for justice for the Hillsborough families and against its treatment of Greater Manchester during the pandemic. Over the last decade, I have been challenging this failure from the outside and building a new and better way of doing politics. We have built Greater Manchester into the fastest-growing city-region in the UK and put buses back under public control, introducing a £2 fare cap to help people with cost-of-living pressures. However, there is only so much that can be done from Greater Manchester. Much bigger change is needed at a national level if everyday life is to be made more affordable again. This is why I now seek people’s support to return to Parliament: to bring the change we have brought to Greater Manchester to the whole of the UK and make politics work properly for people. Millions are struggling and they need the Labour Government to succeed. It has already made changes to make life better for them in its first two years. After this week, we owe it to people to come back together as a Labour movement, giving the Prime Minister and the Government the space and stability they need as the by-election takes place. I want to recognise the difficult decision taken by Josh Simons and the sacrifice he and his family are making. I have worked closely with him as Mayor on issues like flooding and illegal waste dumping and have seen first-hand how effective he has been. He has put the communities of Makerfield first, made a real difference for them and should take great pride in that. Finally, I truly do not take a single vote for granted and will work hard to regain the trust of people in the Makerfield constituency, many of whom have long supported our party but lost faith in recent times. We will change Labour for the better and make it a party you can believe in again. ENDS

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Scott Burchill@IRanalyst·
So how can Palestinians activate their right to self-determination today when it it is not recognised by Israel nor its major sponsor? We can write books about missed opportunities and historical failures and mistakes, but none of that helps us get anywhere. We are back at the two-state non solution.
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I’ve seen this before Scott and I think it’s wrong (what’s new, academics disagreeing). A state is simply the accepted modern form of how people organise their political configurations. There are other ways, but the crucial point is that self -determination in international politics refers to the right of a people to determine their own political status and mode of governance, to choose, without external coercion, the political community they belong to and how that community is organized. So If the Jewish decide that the political status and mode of governance they desire is a state. Then that state has a right to exist. Also, when you say about “in perpetuity” or something like that, that’s a very essentialist or naturalist reading of rights. Which I find strange coming from you. The right exists only as long as the people claim it. And yes, the international system puts caveats on self-determination, but given the Jews already have a state, then tbh, they work against the Palestinians rather than help them. That was the big mistake of 1948.
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Scott Burchill@IRanalyst·
Fisk is mistaken here. Australia doesn't recognise Israel's "right to exist", nor could it. Nor do we recognise the right of any other state to exist. This applies even if a political leader makes such a claim. The idea of a state's "right to exist" does not exist in international law, which is where you would expect to find it, and was never even a diplomatic talking point until the Israelis formerly raised it as a prerequisite for negotiations with Palestinians at the Madrid Conference in 1991. The "right to exist" is often mistakenly equated with a people's "right to self-determination" and the diplomatic recognition of governments. It has never been dependent on internationally-recognised boundaries and monopoly control over a bounded territory, which is the notion of sovereignty and what Fisk seems to suggest here. Fisk raises a different issue, knowing that Israelis do not want to declare their final boundaries because they would be opposed by neighbouring states and much of the world, and would by default define the boundaries of Palestine which many do not want to acknowledge at all - the so-called two-state solution. Here is my brief summary of the issue from 3 years ago. Nothing has changed: iranalyst.medium.com/israel-palesti…
Colin Wight (not Colin Wright)@colwight

Jesus he’s confusing territorial scope with right. Besides the fact that he’s goes on to concede it’s got a right to exist. A better question would be to ask the Palestinians to tell us the territorial scope they’d like to exercise their right to a state over. Let’s see the answer to that. Funny thing is though, even if they could spell that out they’d still demand the right to go live in Israel. Which kind of tells you the answer anyway.

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Much of the evidence has been captured on video by IDF soldiers and uploaded to Instagram. But if you want to deny that, just look at the evidence in South Africa's brief at the ICJ and the arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant issued by the ICC. Lots of reading material for you.
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@IRanalyst FYI - there is no proof that any Australian who fought for the IDF committed a war crime. Zero. In fact to date there is no proof that the IDF committed war crimes. When/if that is established in an international court, then you are free to make that accusation. Till then Stfu
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I agree. There is no collective responsibility and it is bigoted and racist to make such a claim. As the author says, there are many Australian Jews who are appalled and opposed to Israel's actions in the Middle East. What she doesn't say is what, if anything, should be done about Australian Jews who joined the IDF and committed war crimes in Gaza and Lebanon. And should those in Australia who cheered on Israel's slaughter in Gaza be held to account for their collaboration? Presumably the worthy fight against antisemitism doesn't give them a free pass?
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Scott Burchill
Scott Burchill@IRanalyst·
I was agreeing with the author who was alluding to a range of views about Israel amongst Australian Jews, a strong argument - but by no means the only one - for denying their collective responsibility for Israel's actions, which I described as racist and bigoted claims. Anything short of incitement to violence can be debated and discussed in the public square, and is fine by me.
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Colin Wight (not Colin Wright)
The context is the Israel/Palestine dispute. But I’m not interested in debating that issue. And yes I acknowledge that you didn’t mention legitimate targets, but what you did say was that “As the author says, there are many Australian Jews who are appalled and opposed to Israel's actions in the Middle East.”, which raises my about whether the same considerations apply to those Jews that aren’t opposed to Israel’s actions in the ME.
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My focus is specifically on anyone, Jewish or not, who incites violence. My understanding is that incitement to violence is a crime regardless of the underlying cause. As it would be for those who encouraged Hamas to commit acts of violence. "Supporting Israel" but not inciting violence doesn't meet that threshold and should be protected as free speech. And I never mentioned the words "legitimate targets". We can debate phrases such as "globalise the intifada" endlessly, both their various meanings and the extent to which they lead directly to violent behaviour. Many would disagree with your characterisation. And I am sceptical that a phrase, by itself and out of context and experience, convinces people to act in ways they wouldn't otherwise do for other reasons. To be consistent, however, if there are people motivated by a phrase to commit acts of violence, those knowingly inciting the violence or committing it should be prosecuted. As should those Australians who advocate ethnic cleansing, the killing of Palestinian children and genocide in Palestine.
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Colin Wight (not Colin Wright)
That didn’t answer my question. Let me rephrase it slightly. Are Jews in Australia that do support Israel’s actions in Gaza legitimate targets for attack. I said nothing about them expousing that support. But you seemed to be distinguishing two sets of Jews. Those that agree with you and those that don’t. And if Jews that support Israel are legitimate targets then surely every supporter is Israel is. Unless you’re singling the Jews out that is. Also, Jews defending Israel’s right to defend itself in the Middle East aren’t inciting violence on the streets of Melbourne, whereas those chanting globalise the intifada clearly are. One is an expression of support for a conflict elsewhere, the other is a call to bring something here.
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I'm a consequentialist. We are all responsible for the predictable consequences of our actions. I highlighted those Australians who joined the IDF to fight in Gaza - if - they committed war crimes as well as those who actively incited those crimes. Like you, I consider inciting violence to be an exception to free speech advocacy.
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@timmick24 @PaulineHansonOz @OneNationAus As we both well know, the outcry would be deafening if that happened. And, significantly, it doesn't. Anyway, this is about PHON and how they square their newly discovered patriotism and being 'Australia First' with their uncritical Zionism. Let's see.
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Tim Mick
Tim Mick@timmick24·
@IRanalyst @PaulineHansonOz @OneNationAus If it’s sung as a replacement to Advance Australia Fair that would be no good but as a part of cultural identity afterwards, no issues. Chinese people can sing the Chinese anthem if they so wish but not as a replacement to local anthem.
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I'm waiting to see what happens when @PaulineHansonOz and @OneNationAus discover that at Mount Scopus school in Burwood the Hatikvah - the national anthem of Israel - is sung at school assemblies? I know I was forced to sing God Save The Queen at primary school - the national anthem of the UK - but at the time it was also Australia’s national anthem!
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Am I correct in thinking the @ECAJewry - an Israel lobby outfit - was just given millions in the budget to assist it to lobby the same government on behalf of a foreign state?
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You are avoiding my point. It's the national anthem of a foreign state. It's not just a song about heritage and religion. Many national anthems have similar lyrical content. But I'm not aware that the national anthems of Lebanon, Russia or the US, for example, are sung in any Australian schools. Imagine the outcry if a Chinese school in Sydney sang the March of the Volunteers.
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Tim Mick
Tim Mick@timmick24·
@IRanalyst @PaulineHansonOz @OneNationAus Schools sing all sorts of songs to do with the heritage and religion of the students they cater for. Jewish schools shouldn’t be excluded from singing songs to do with thousands of years of Jewish heritage. The hatikvah is a song of the hope to have a jewish homeland.
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@timmick24 @PaulineHansonOz @OneNationAus The order in which they are sung is irrelevant. Serious question. Are there any other schools in Australia which sing the national anthem of a foreign country at their assemblies?
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Tim Mick
Tim Mick@timmick24·
@IRanalyst @PaulineHansonOz @OneNationAus Jewish schools around the world always sing their home country anthem first. If they sing the Hatikvah, it is second. What is the HaTikvah? (The Hope) is the name of Israel's national anthem, symbolizing the 2,000-year hope of the Jewish people to return to their homeland.
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