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@IXianVernius

I am a monument to all your sins. Alt: @HeraldOfRlyeh

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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
I have been anonymously yet reliably informed that I tweet like someone far less attractive than I actually am. I just want you all to hear about this because producing such a response has been one of the secret goals of this account for some years.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
I for one would massively enjoy a world without people who are STILL refusing to understand that the venn diagram of "prosocial" and "press blue" is not a fucking circle.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
And now we take a moment to appreciate the achievement of the ideal follower count.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
@Nunya2161047767 @HecklesJC You know, I've seen the oddly bipartisan nature of blue pointed out a few times now, and I think that's actually very easily explained. Horseshoe theory is correct at least on certain traits. Go far enough in either direction and you find smug collectivism.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
I know most of you, my dear followers, are more than sick of this discourse, but I'm sorry. I can't not bring this one up too. The incessantness with which this specific argument is invoked is the one detail that actually just confuses me. Like, are they so deep into the characterization of red as just edgy teenagers that they can't possibly imagine a parent that opposes them? Whatever kind of person they think reds are, is it really so hard to imagine that kind of person aging, having children and not changing? Because I assure you, I told my actual, not a hypothetical person, mom about this shit (actually talking to your parents about things. Imagine that.), and her response was, "Well, that sounds stupid. Red obviously."
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
@DankLordNeato My first instinct was that I just don't believe those parents would do that with real stakes, but then I recalled, for example, what some parents will do to their kids just for viral video content. So yeah, you're right. It's fuckin' scary.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
Oh and just a friendly reminder. If your argument is "but babies are voting too" then you're basically waving a neon sign saying that this question doesn't even roughly map to anything real.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
No, the blues are talking past everyone including themselves and insisting the reds are participating in that problem to further reinforce their own world view. They categorically refuse to even acknowledge the argument that their impulses are not the foundation of society and that thus the outcome doesn't prove anything they think it does. Their entire self-conception requires any explanation to include "blue virtuous red psychopath." The idea that that's not true threatens them more than death.
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Yeah except that's not the argument being made for red, nor is their any burden on said argument to predict shit. The assertion has nothing to do with what anyone else actually will pick in any single instantiation of the test. It is that, definitionally, blue is a bet with death as the loss outcome and nothing that red doesn't already always give you as the win outcome. No amount of winning a bet on blue will change the fact that you made a bet with a moral high horse as the only unique payoff. There wouldn't even be an actual, quantifiable benefit to picking blue even if hypothetical magic allowed you to predict with certainty that enough people will pick blue because red already gives you that without complication and at zero cost, realized or otherwise. That's the actual argument.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
@orthonormalist Huh. While not Boone himself as far as I know, I too had an ancestor at Boonesborough. Like, of the ancestral stuff I've claimed, it's one of the more well documented. That little intersection is either horrifying, hilarious or just neat depending on how you look at it I suppose.
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@planefag My brother in suffering, please remind yourself that it is a reddit post.
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Emi🏳️‍⚧️@ShirouEmilia·
@IXianVernius Most people chose blue in the poll and would've gotten the better result Cope and cry about it retard
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
Having empathy is a strength, but being unequally controlled by empathy over your mind's other faculties is a weakness, and weaponizing empathy as a rhetorical manipulation tactic is an evil. The likelihood someone is doing one of the latter two is directly proportional to how much time they spend talking about empathy instead of simply acting on whichever good they believe in.
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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
They aren't defending me personally, no. A not insignificant portion of them are funding cool shit that I like and benefit from though. Conversely, people like you are just trying to take from that paycheck you cite and give it to someone else, so my sympathies seem pretty sound as they are actually.
Socialist Planning Beyond Capitalism@beyond_capital

You’re not two paychecks away from a private jet. You’re two missed paychecks away from food stamps. Stop defending billionaires. They’re not defending you.

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The IXian🥃🧭@IXianVernius·
That does make the case for blue more reasonable if we're taking the hypothetical completely literally, like we imagine a wizard making this exact scenario play out. But I'd argue that also just makes the thought experiment an even poorer analogy to anything real than it already is.
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Joshua@ijoshuajohnson·
The only reasonable take I have heard argued in favor of blue is the scenario that everyone in the world has to make the choice including infants that wouldnt understand the question, people in semi vegetative states, or individuals who are depressed and want to die, and therefore it would be argued that all the sane and rational people should band together and save everyone who is non-compos mentis, has a death wish, or is functionally unable to understand the question being asked.
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Emi🏳️‍⚧️@ShirouEmilia·
@IXianVernius "weaponizing empathy" aka telling people not to do evil shit lol Your "solutions" hurting people doesn't make them inherently more reasonable or rational you fucking edgelord
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_its_not_real_@_its_not_real_·
Really want to run this poll but the lack of a fifth option for none would really screw it up.
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