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I don't understand how the process of gaining knowledge or understanding of a skill could be the same for every individual. This requires thinking, and no one thinks the same.
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Colby Lyons
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Colby Lyons
@ImColbyLyons
I'm a homeschooling dad. I love self-directed learning.
Idaho Katılım Mart 2023
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I've heard the argument that young people need background knowledge prior to reading. How does this work in practice? Are young people supposed to wait for instruction on a book prior to reading it?
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@ScottDavidGray What can you tell me about literacy in the South? The assumption seems to be that since there wasn't as much access to schools, literacy was lower. I'm guessing it's more complicated than this.
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@ScottDavidGray That's one thing I'll never understand. Apparently the way to help people who didn't have access to schools was to mandate attendance in school. It wasn't enough to provide more opportunities for learning.
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We're told that prior to mass schooling, Americans were "uneducated." The fact people were able to accomplish these things shows that people were generally very knowledgeable and capable in the 1800s.
History With Jacob@HistoryWJacob
Living in America in the 1800's may have been the wildest, most exciting time to be alive. Opportunity and Potential everywhere. There were towns, states even religions popping up all over. You could start anything you wanted and there was enough space and freedom to try it.
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Even in the area for which the schools were designed, the schools appear to have failed.
Based on newspaper, magazine and book sales, a larger portion of the population was reading immediately prior to truancy legislation than 30 years after. And that despite the cost of printing coming down.
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@DanaPalubiak Classrooms aren't the only places learning happens, though.
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If you're going to weigh in on what's wrong with classrooms, you should be able to answer a few basic questions:
When did you last teach in one?
What's your actual background in education?
Who's funding your work?
No gatekeeping. Just transparency. For everyone.
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I simply can’t imagine my childhood without books. I was surrounded by them. Encouraged to read early and often. My grandmother took us to the bookstore, not the toy store, and we all loved going.
Ignoring a book is worse than burning it.
Soledad Francis PhD@SoledadFrancis
Children don't read because their parents don't read. We'll soon be led by an entire generation that has never cracked open a book. Not a single book in the home. This frightens me more than the idea of nuclear threat or a foreign power attacking us. We're imploding from within.
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We've got to read more. We've got to let our kids see us reading, and we need to read to our kids.
Soledad Francis PhD@SoledadFrancis
Children don't read because their parents don't read. We'll soon be led by an entire generation that has never cracked open a book. Not a single book in the home. This frightens me more than the idea of nuclear threat or a foreign power attacking us. We're imploding from within.
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@Shadow_Rebbe This frustrates me quite a bit. I wish I could have spent more time learning things I cared about instead of what strangers thought I needed to know.
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most of what the things you learned as an adult you could've learnt as a kid
why doesn't this drive you mad?!
mad enough to change the world
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@rpondiscio Do you have any recommendations for creating a knowledge and language rich environment?
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The vast majority of words in our vocabulary are acquired through repeated exposure in context. Yes, students should add to their vocabulary through explicit instruction, but the real driver is a language-rich and knowledge-rich education and environment.
city-journal.org/article/a-weal…
Sean Morrisey@smorrisey
I believe the research on how many vocabulary words students can learn in a year is wrong. We set the bar too low. We just need the right framework/structures. We need updated research on this.
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@ImColbyLyons @Homeschool_LLC The thing they won’t be ‘behind’ is the bond they’ve built with the parents. (Assuming they have been homeschooled properly) And that is the thing no public school can take away from them.
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Public school teachers like to point out the homeschooled kids who return to public school as a benchmark for understanding homeschooling - oftentimes it represents a sample bias since successful homeschoolers rarely return to public school and homeschooling is their scapegoat for population failures. Meanwhile, generational failures of public school proficiency in all subjects is well documented.
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@LeeMcClymont @HelpfulTeacher_ I'm not sure about this section though:
"But the default is silence. That's the only way education can work..."
The context is classroom instruction, but the statement I quoted makes it sound like this applies to education in general.
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@ImColbyLyons @HelpfulTeacher_ That wasn't their position. It was without any other instruction the norm is silence. The teacher then decides other modes, it isn't the only one.
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The classroom default should be pin-drop silence 🔕
There is time for collaboration, think-pair-shares, discussion and debate
When the teacher decides so
But the default is silence. That's the only way education can work, and it's how students should enter the room 🚪 #Edchat
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@HelpfulTeacher_ I did. I think it made sense when you were talking about a classroom. However, then you said "that's the only way education can work." The classroom isn't the only place education happens.
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@HelpfulTeacher_ Sure, in a classroom silence is helpful. But education, teaching, and learning happen in other settings as well, and sometimes these settings can be noisy and include a lot of discussion.
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@ImColbyLyons Have you tried teaching in a classroom where 30 students are having individual conversations?
There is a time and place for organised discussions and group work. But silence has to be the default, otherwise teaching and learning can't happen
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@0Beanie05923291 Reading great books is incredible. Is the background knowledge always necessary before reading?
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The most important “skills” that schools should be cultivating in students today aren’t specific to any particular century. Things like how to sit quietly and wrestle with a thought, how to read whole books that challenge both their ability to focus and their thinking, and how to organize thoughts and ideas in their minds to communicate them well through the written word have always been important, and may be more important than ever.
All of these “skills” require that students have abundant background knowledge to think about and make connections with. Therefore, schools should start by building that knowledge then provide ample opportunity to think about, read, comprehend and make connections with, then write about what they know.
There’s no shortcut for any of this but the journey (we should call it a quest) is part of the learning process. Students taught in this way will simultaneously learn things about the world and themselves they never knew before. That’s an education!
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@ImColbyLyons @Caol_MacCormaic They all found them! The school partners or kids strike out and make their own connection. My kid got a huge boost in confidence when she got hers. Amazing what happens kids get the chance to have ownership of their future.
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My answer is always “I don’t have any idea. Neither of us do. The point of school is to build a toolbox, though, and I’m offering you a tool. You’re better off having more tools than fewer when you leave here.”
Wendy@teachthemx3
"When am I ever going to use this?" is the most honest feedback a student can give you. And we dismiss it every time.
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@ImColbyLyons Good observation. When a company hires a new employee, they may be competent and skilled, but they still have to go through orientation.
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@Homeschool_LLC ... about something else that isn't even taught in school.
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@Homeschool_LLC It seems like a common concern is that the kids who return to public schools are behind. I wonder how often this is because they've been on a different path than what's being taught in school. Perhaps they are "behind" in some areas, ahead in others, and maybe learning...
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