ImUrWeakness
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@ImUrWeakness_ @southside_mafs It was the majority of opinion at the time. Had you lived in that time with your set of opinions about morality you would have said it was good for society that Christians were exterminated. That's the point.
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No Atheist will ever say child molestation isn’t wrong.
Darwin to Jesus@darwintojesus
Imagine actually advocating for this.
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@HeroAbility @southside_mafs If I think Christians should be hunted and murdered? no I actually don't think anyone should be. What relevance does this have.
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@ImUrWeakness_ @southside_mafs awesome. Now answer my question?
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@ImUrWeakness_ @southside_mafs Most of the Bible is historical accounting of underdogs showing might doesn't make right. With God on your side the opposition won't matter. The early centuries of Christianity are Christians being hunted like animals and exterminated by a large majority. Was that right or wrong?
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@De_LigtsDynasty @LM7seven @SwearingSport yea but I mean its just funny its not an indicator of how much they should be paid.
Noone gives a fuck about womens football thats why they are paid less.
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@LM7seven @SwearingSport yea but a keeper fumble isnt why, this happens in the mens game as well...
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@SwearingSport People who don’t understand why they don’t get paid as much have to be possibly some of the thickest people on earth
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@HeroAbility @southside_mafs You can think it's disgusting and stupid but that is literally the way our world is ran. We do not operate on objective moral standards ordained by a god, even if you grant a gods existence, we as a species do not operate under their objective morals.
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@ImUrWeakness_ @southside_mafs So first i was wrong and now I'm just kinda right? lol ... might makes right is a stupid epistemology and a disgusting way to run a world. But it is the only position that is coherent for the atheist. kudos for the intellectual honesty.
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@HeroAbility @southside_mafs What is right is imposed on people by force, you can think its right to be able to drive 100mph past a school, but youre forced into not doing so else facing punishment, decided collectively as a society based on what you're belittling as 'feely feels'.
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@ImUrWeakness_ @southside_mafs "So what" is that you're critiquing a view because you don't share the same morality. That would be hypocritical if both systems come from the same source (feely feels). So what's right is just what can be imposed on other people by force.
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@HeroAbility @southside_mafs You can say its feely feels but what does this achieve. It's not a dead end nor does it serve any point. If Christianity turns out to be false you are just living by the feely feels of the gospel writers. it IS subjective but, so what?
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@ImUrWeakness_ @southside_mafs Right, so feely feels. If a majority of people you live with decide it's okay, then it's okay, right?
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@Eric_Cochran @waitbutwhy Do not pose such ridiculous additional hypotheticals if you can not come up with one worth considering.
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Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@HeroAbility @southside_mafs Atheism does not need to make a universal claim, you are imposing theistic groundwork upon a system which does not adhere to it. Child molestation is wrong because we as a society decided it so. This is why we punish those who act upon their lack of this belief with prison.
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@ImUrWeakness_ @southside_mafs No, what im saying is that moral relativism that depends on personal feely feels to determine right and wrong cant make a universal case for why child molesting is wrong. "I dont think its right" is not a universal case (and in fact is just borrowing my culture).
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@modzarecuckz @emptytalksmedia @Awk20000 I obviously think he is grifting about his political and current issue view points, like I said you're entitled to think he isnt. I can't prove he is just like you can't prove anyone is unless they admit to it.
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@ImUrWeakness_ @emptytalksmedia @Awk20000 Asmon has always said the things he’s saying now. Even before back in 2019 before he got political he hinted at the ideas he’s saying now.
Nothings changed so what is he grifting about?
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@modzarecuckz @emptytalksmedia @Awk20000 Of course it's what grifter means, he makes statements he might not actually believe himself to deceive his audience profit from them. You can think he is not a grifter as it's not actually provable, but you can't just pretend grifter means something different.
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@ImUrWeakness_ @emptytalksmedia @Awk20000 That’s not what a grifter means. Stop using words you don’t know.
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@KenRDKAB @jaysutherlanduk @CosmicSkeptic The point of the analogy is that life long theists might believe a god exists the same way you believe your dad exists. So to say to them "I just believe in one less than you" is like saying you don't believe you have a dad. It doesn't do anything to further the debate.
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@jaysutherlanduk @CosmicSkeptic whether God exists should be in the mind of all theists
A son knows he has a dad, dad's exist & human reproduction & genetics dictate that a dad (at least in the biological sense) must exist.
This is not so for God(s)
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I think @CosmicSkeptic misses the point here. The argument is not about numbers. The point of the "just one more God" argument is that exactly the same reasons for rejecting all other Gods can be applied to the God the theist believes in. His "Dads" analogy just doesn't work.
Alex O'Connor@CosmicSkeptic
I’m getting a lot of hate for this reel. What do you think? (P.S.: if you say “but we have evidence for dads I believe you have missed the point.)
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@Waldbalex @ford351gtcobra @Mayzomatic Even if you assume children and the mentally disabled are given a chance to basically hit a random option, does this change the over all vote? do most people consider this? 5% winning margin for blue in a no stakes twitter poll does not give me confidence in a real life scenario.
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@ford351gtcobra @Mayzomatic Another one just assuming that children would be part of the vote...
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I was initially a red button guy. Seems like the obvious, more intelligent choice. Everyone in control of their own lives. No one needs to die, just press red
However there have been so many people arguing blue that it in turn makes them correct. Way too many people are going to push blue regardless so therefore blue becomes the correct answer
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@emptytalksmedia @Awk20000 I think it's because asmon is in the truest sense a grifter, people like shapiro, kirk, destiny, hasan ect believe what they say.
Asmon im not so sure, everything he says he looks to his chat for affirmation, he feels the most as if he just says what people want to hear.
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It's because Zack's vibes-based political analysis scrolling his Twitter algorithm's echo chamber would never hold up against any kind of challenge or scrutiny in a debate.
When he pivoted to more political commentary on his streams he also became more isolated, refusing discussions with anyone who would question his takes.
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@keyokkud No, everyone survives by pressing red. Red is the button you press to live, pretty simple.
If 100% press blue, everyone lives
If 100% press red, everyone lives
If 51% press blue, everyone lives
If 51% press red, all red lives
It's about trust but pressing red you always live
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why the fuck would you press red? everyone survives if we press blue, it's guaranteed survival for everyone, by default everyone should be pressing blue, without even needing to coordinate. default state of human should be to want and guarantee best outcome, not settling.
vittorio@IterIntellectus
why would anyone even press blue?!?
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@HeroAbility @southside_mafs Just so were clear, what you're saying is that without the fear of god you would be raping kids? the ONLY thing stopping you is that God say's its bad and you will be eternally punished?
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@southside_mafs There are atheists right now locked up for sa kids. To disprove what he's claiming you have to make a materialist case for why we shouldn't grape kids.
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@ChrisPacia @wbic16 This is the point I have been stressing to all the people moral grandstanding on their blue vote. It's easy to vote blue on this poll because you actually won't die if its <50%. If the stakes were legitimate people would not be so willing to potentially sacrifice themselves.
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You left out that when confront with an actual choice with real world consequence people will vote radically different than how they vote on an internet poll with no consequences.
And you also left out that if your blue campaign fails to get 50% + 1 you've successfully maximized the number of people who will die.
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Why red teamers are losing:
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@HairyLeggdHarpy Making the right choice is easy when you don't actually have to make the choice. I think red voters are just more grounded in their reality, if this poll were real life and blue voters actually died, the results would be very different.
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Hey red button pushers
After you've pressed red an evil goblin pulls away the red sticker you didn't notice concealing the blue button - you were distracted, you actually pressed blue.
You're given the chance to persuade everyone else how to vote.
What do you ask them to do?
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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