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@Negropean4dc @alexis_vacilli I dont think you realise how good to go to a mid table italian team at a time when it was the best league in the world, and carry them to league titles, a coppa Italia, and a UEFA cup. And a WC with Argentina. He was never eligible for a Balon Dor so it's a nothing argument.

@J_KEO91 @alexis_vacilli I don’t think your realising how ridiculous 5 let alone 8 Ballon D’ors is, Maradona would’ve won two at best, we will probably never see 5 again for a good few decades. Maybe Lamine as he’s in these conversations very early if he stays healthy.

For me Ronaldo is nowhere near the top 5 goat debate Greatest goalscorer ever? Maybe. But even that is questionable when you’ve played about 17,000 games and spent half your career hunting stats like your life depended on it. People worship the numbers without mentioning the ridiculous amount of games he needed to get them. Give Suarez or Zlatan the same number of matches and the same obsession with goals and records and they’d be putting up crazy numbers too. Greatest athlete ever? Maybe. Most disciplined player ever? Maybe. Greatest footballer ever? Absolutely not You can’t spend 90 minutes camping in the box, waiting for cutbacks, tap ins and penalties, then expect me to call you the greatest player ever. At some point we have to separate being a goalscorer from actually being a footballer. If 40% of your highlights are tap ins and another 30% are pens, that’s not GOAT material to me. That’s just elite stat padding with incredible longevity!

@Negropean4dc @alexis_vacilli What Maradona did for Napoli is the among greatest achievements in football history . They were nothing before him, and until very very recently, nothing after him.

@J_KEO91 @alexis_vacilli I take back the “didn’t do enough” that’s disrespectful to maradona, in his time he was the greatest, Messi and Ronaldo are just on another level nobody will ever reach again.

@Negropean4dc @alexis_vacilli yeah, Maradona.

@alexis_vacilli The way you speak is like you’ve only watched Him after Juve and you don’t look THAT young so this is a shocking take. Plays nothing like how you described in his prime. Shocking take honestly. Messis secured his spot at 1 but it’s just as certain who’s number 2 as the Goat is

@JopFio @loverofdagame_ Won the world cup. Clown.

@J_KEO91 @loverofdagame_ Yeah then done sh1t all lol

The top 3 - by a good margin - are these 3, outside of that, I don't see a case of other guys being better than him

@JopFio @loverofdagame_ No notable career achievements? He transformed Napoli from nothing into 2x Serie A champions when Italy had the best league in the world. Clown

@loverofdagame_ Why is maradona in goat debate lol? Below average club career won WC by scoring hanball goal. <400 goals in career <200 assists in career No notable career achievements. Messi, Ronaldo are top2(not in order) Then Pele comes #3

@birdoose_ @wandile_mtambo @Moeherdz26 @loverofdagame_ Nope.

@wandile_mtambo @Moeherdz26 @loverofdagame_ Shame he's better than Maradona though

@lionFTSF1 @loverofdagame_ He absolutely was

@loverofdagame_ Coke head Maradona is not better than Ronaldo im sorry. You cannot compare both careers

Messi went to PSG, Ronaldo started saying the SPL is better than Ligue 1. Messi went to MLS, Ronaldo said the SPL is much tougher than MLS. Messi won the Ballon d'Or and Ronaldo said the Ballon d'Or has lost its credibility. Messi won the World Cup and Ronaldo called it a 6-7 game tournament and even said winning the Euro is much tougher than winning the World Cup. The list goes on. He is obsessed with Messi, and it is making him go mad because Messi is not slowing down like him.

@boringoldg77555 @Marcothomas1 @adamrowecomedy Define 'struggle'.

@J_KEO91 @Marcothomas1 @adamrowecomedy More than what Messi achieved. Flopped hard at PSG, was pretty hard to watch how much he struggled outside Spain.

There is absolutely nothing that gives you more information about someone’s entire catalog of opinions on football than if they tell you that they believe Ronaldo is a better footballer than Messi. If they even consider it debatable, that gives you enough to just stop listening.

@FlapjackFpl @LFCLaurie Cringe as fuck

@LFCLaurie He adds bums on seats. Otherwise nobody is watching this game

You can’t tell me a single thing that Ronaldo adds to Portugal at this stage of his career. It’s just sad to watch.

Really good analysis from Henry. This is the Ronaldo issue right now. He's playing as a 9, but he's never been a 9 and he's not acting as a 9. Not giving Portugal those traits and it hurt them today.

@Tmotty6 @footballontnt Fuck off

@footballontnt Mehn Maradona is really overrated. One of the most overrated footballers of all time

Lionel Messi has scored more World Cup goals since turning 35 than Diego Maradona managed in his entire career 🤯🇦🇷

@Marcothomas1 @adamrowecomedy Tested himself by joining the three biggest clubs in each league 😂😂😂😂😂. Maradona going to Napoli is a test. CR7 going to United, Real Madrid and Juve is hardly a fucking test.

@adamrowecomedy An amazing player but spent most of it scoring hat tricks against championship level teams in La liga! Ronaldo has won it all in Spain, Uk and Italy , was never afraid to go and test himself at a different club Ronaldo for me

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Ronaldo’s biggest achievement is being compared to Messi

@TatticaPassata I liked your analogy of ADP had the higher peak, while Totti had the greater longevity. Like Lennon/McCartney, Pacino/De Niro - both geniuses, it probably just comes down to preference. There isn't really a correct answer as such.

I genuinely love Del Piero more than most Roma fans do both inside and outside the pitch. He genuinely seems like the nicest guy ever and was also an unreal player. However, saying he was "miles better" than Totti is such a surface-level way of looking at football. People bring up Del Piero's ACL injury and rightly so, because he was up there with Zidane and R9 as the very best in the world. They never mention Totti's ACL injuries or the fibula fracture that derailed his career. Internationally? Totti was consistently preferred to Del Piero by Zoff, Trapattoni and Lippi, 3 managers with deep Juventus ties. He was Italy's best player at EURO 2000, Italy's best player at the 2002 World Cup, should have been the focal point of EURO 2004 (had he not stupidly gotten himself suspended) and then there's 2006. Totti breaks his fibula in February 2006. Lippi publicly backs him to make the World Cup even if he plays on one leg. 4 months later after a miraculous recovery, Totti arrives at the World Cup with screws still in his leg, starts every game ahead of Del Piero and finishes as the tournament's top assister. The following season, Totti modernizes the false 9 role in a way football hadn't really seen for decades, wins the European Golden Boot and records a Serie A goal tally (26) Del Piero never reached, all while remaining the creative hub of his team rather than playing as a traditional number 9. From 1998 until Del Piero left Serie A in 2012, Totti consistently matched or surpassed him statistically despite playing much deeper and for a significantly weaker side. Totti also aged much better with the 2012/13 season being the perfect example. At 36, he produced double figures in both goals and assists while orchestrating entire games and enjoying one of the finest seasons of his career. A year later, at 37, he still finished as Roma's top scorer for a side that amassed 85 points and came within touching distance of the scudetto. A type longevity that wasn't the product of adapting into a reduced role but instead came from him remaining as the focal point. Del Piero wasn't producing anywhere near that level at those later stages and that's despite Totti having accumulated significantly more serious injuries throughout his career. And then you have the actual profiling of the players. Del Piero combined elite goalscoring with world class ball striking and set-piece ability from multiple angles, while also being one of the best dribblers of his generation especially pre ACL injury. But people often reduce football to dribbling and then use the "eye test" as if that's the entire sport (Totti wasn't a poor dribbler by any stretch either btw). The difference is that Del Piero's superiority in that area is obvious, while Totti's superiority in other areas tends to be overlooked because they're less flashy. Unlike Del Piero, whose profile was built around scoring, Totti combined elite scoring with elite creation on top of that. He functioned as both the primary scorer and the primary playmaker for his team. If you prefer Del Piero, fair enough, I don't mind that at all. But do not come here and tell me there's no comparison between the two. For me, the answer is simple. Totti was the more complete footballer. Del Piero had the higher peak, Totti had the superior longevity, output and profile. Therefore, if your argument begins and ends with 1997 and trophy counts, then you're not really comparing the players but making casual points. Juventus and Roma were operating on completely different levels. Trophies can be debated, completeness as a footballer, cannot.

I apologize in advance if this applies to you but I sincerely believe that if you think Ronaldo was ever close to Messi, you are of an objectively lower mental status than me, something akin to a sea urchin or maybe a mussel.

@Kody_Kox @IANdrewDiceClay Fucking rat

@IANdrewDiceClay Who gives a shit? Why are we talking about something that happened 27 years ago.

This was so trashy, even at the time. Promoting Sunday Night Heat and the King of the Ring qualifiers and then straight into Boss Man's tribute to Owen Hart.

On behalf of Forever Reds, the former players association, I would like to extend our sincere support and best wishes to two of our greatest Sir Kenny Dalglish and Kevin Keegan and their families. Whether they be former teammates, managers or heroes, we are with them. YNWA.