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@realMICATL @ArmorKingTV21 Appreciate the insights Most of my reasoning is kinda just going back to his identity and defining strengths/weaknesses all within the scope of end of S1 where every character had room to be nerfed and adjusted since identity was a biggie going into S2. Here's further in depth.

@Jesandy1572 @ArmorKingTV21 fighting games (which would be more akin to day 1 season 1 King, which everyone complained was cheap as HELLLLLLLLL 😂😂😂), IMO. 9/9

Here's what I left in that dcord to make King a grappler with weaknesses again. Pages are in numerical order. Last 2 pages are in the replies. Idk who reads these but hopefully they implement these changes. Been asking for these changes for 2 years. If nothing happens NOW then..

@O2HELLRAISER Crouch throws were pretty good in T7 in conjunction with Jag Step 2. You could 50/50 a crouch chain throw that did 80+ dmg OR because Jag Step 2 guarantees a throw attempt, you could mash df2 and catch them trying to tech and ch them. Added depth to the game and was VERY strong.

@Jesandy1572 Indeed, i think they can do things to make him feel more grabby than rushdowny Crouch throws just a lil connundrum to me

@STOPYOURCHIT There's two skill sets you can work on 1.Character familiarity 2.Fundamentals It's important to learn limits to your char like you're doing now. Once you hit the wall you're facing now is when you should work on #2 You'll be able to see the broken side of king w/o much execution

@Jesandy1572 It’s crazy I’ve been trying to improve with King for two years, and I don’t feel like the character is stronger than others. He’s got that heavyweight movement, pretty average sidesteps, and poor close-range tracking.

@O2HELLRAISER Yeah crouch chain grabs would just be variants of either a 1 or 2 break Having extra setups would be nice if that were the case, would just make his char a lil diff than before if anything, but still makes him unique

@Jesandy1572 Hm, i see a couple ways to do this: 1. Keeo crouch throws unbreakable, but reduce dmg if comboed into, crouch chain grab starters are breakable (maybe too obtuse) 2. Make all crouch throws breakable, but a couple extra set ups, dont scale in links if they dont already

@IndicMist RKO recovery is difficult to launch/react to when you can change the timing at any moment. It also becomes much harder with his unseeable low/mid options. DF2 lower ch-confirm window makes it so you have to be sharp to get your reward and for it to not be handed to you.

@IndicMist Ffn2 has since been buffed from -15 at +1 forced crouch to -13 at +5 Mind you this is a character who is supposed to have the worst lows in the game because he has throws to make up for it. D4, not d3, used to be a good poke for damage in exchange for frames. (Cont.)

@KayDashX_ I had put it in the discussion-characters channel for King

@Jesandy1572 @Jesandy1572 which portal did you write this in

@O2HELLRAISER Jaguar Step 2 and FF2 put them in those positions, which is one more than he used to have. It'd be nice to have chain throw starters again from crouch throws but that'd seem pretty OP.

@Jesandy1572 I agree with most, thing tho I think king would need more ways to go into crouch throws if theyre breakable again, they just seem like worse mids otherwise, i almost never saw them get used before tk8

@NPCTherapy @thornzd @Withinusevil I am also confused LOL Idk what that dude's on about

@thornzd @Withinusevil @Jesandy1572 I am also confused

I'm so torn. On one hand I want to genuinely attempt to fix the game and give a giant list of things to adjust/fix with King. On the other hand, I've BEEN trying to for the last 3 years and makes it feel like..what's the diff between then and now? Is it worth it? Genuinely asking

@V_o_Ritual Beautifully said. You always bring about good vibes at tournaments. I know you'll succeed, whether it's working with an org or in competition. You'll always be NA's defender. You deserve a healthier comp environment and will thrive in the next environment you'll be in. 💜

Trying to wrap my head around how to make this statement all day has been tiresome to say the least. While there is a lot I’d like to say, I will do my very best to keep this as direct as humanly possible. I’ve been playing Tekken my entire life, since I was 4 years old to be exact. 20 Years now has passed since I have been playing at a competitive level with the help of the ATL scene I was close to via Dark Resurrection Online and discovering TekkenZaibatsu. I went under the tag known as “assassinx21” until I eventually changed it to Victim_of_Ritual by Tag 2. I was more than happy to continue doing this for the rest of my life given that TEKKEN was still alive and well. TEKKEN absolutely changed my life for the better. It always got me out of my darkest times. Without a shadow of a doubt if you know my story and how far I have come, I really think that without it, I wouldn’t be typing this at this very moment. Right now, I understand that the wound is still fresh from season 3 launching, but the first wound was season 2 and now it’s just salt being rubbed in it and has brought me to this situation here and in the now. TEKKEN got me out of my dark times, but now since season 2 it has brought me to a place I do not want to continue in. I wanted to get a sponsor at the end of season 1 because given Bamco’s track record since TEKKEN 5 of rolling out balance updates, it has generally been positive. (until S3 of 7, but I had hopes after all of that mess and I will say I think they cleaned it up good enough) Without going into details that I’m sure you all know where I’m going with it. I was ready, I wanted to win. Changed my main for the first time ever and soldiered on without a single complaint all throughout season 2. Half-way through I was already burnt out. I even considered giving my spot up as the finalist for TWT but my peers and Sol talked me down and I heeded it. I fought hard and no one can take that away from me. I was not excited to go to finals, not one bit. I did not want to be there. The writings were on the wall, all of my instincts told me that based on what was happening, this was it. I changed my name back to Victim_of_Ritual and switched back to Nina not to sandbag or hide data from the finalists. I did it because I wanted to go out with dignity. I was so upset with the state of the game I didn’t care whatever the result would be. I wanted to close this out just like how I started my journey. I knew it was going to be the end subconsciously. I am always self aware of who I am, what I am doing, and where I came from. Anyone at the finals or during the last world tour in the community that may have perceived me as abrasive, or passive aggressive in our interactions I just want you to know that I am very sorry if my body language portrayed any of those signs. Those of you who know me personally, and outside of the FGC is aware that I wear my emotions on my shoulder, and it is something I struggle with day to day. I went through a lot of traumatizing events in my childhood, and I still have a lot of trouble with relationships whether it be friendly, or intimate. It has never been my intention to create or cause ill will towards anyone. I was just suffering trying to juggle all of this, while also trying to build Kanme’s brand and give back to the community with what we have accomplished thus far. Back to TEKKEN: It has become apparent to me that the direction the developers are taking with this IP does not align with what I recognize it to be, at all. There seems to be an intense disconnect, dysfunction and overall miscommunication between Bandai Namco Entertainment USA/Japan, the marketing team and the developers of the game dishing out what is happening before our very own eyes. TEKKEN 8 would have not had such a successful launch had it not been carried off the backs of hard working local/major TOs, Event Organizers, and the Fighting Game Community as a whole that supported TEKKEN 7. They were actually very lucky that Street Fighter 5 had a rocky launch, which also helped. Casuals will buy the game for a vast majority of reasons, but what I listed above KEEPS THE GAME ALIVE AND WELL! If the marketing is good, the casuals will come, but more than likely it gets shelved and they move onto the next thing. However, they already got their $ from them so the budget is already there for the next. (Example, Mortal Kombat) Correlation between Project Soul and TEKKEN Project: I quit Soul Calibur 6 because the very thing that destroyed that game was not COVID, do not get it twisted. The game failed because of these same reasons that have destroyed TEKKEN’s reputation to its competitive scene now. Updates that made absolutely no sense, that did too much, but too little to address major faults in the battle system and focusing on things that did not affect competitive play. (Sounding familiar here?) They catered to casual players that didn’t care about the battle system anyways because they bought and played the game for many different reasons which in a nutshell, I’ll say it, DOPAMINE. Whether playing with friends to goof around, liked the story, characters etc. I’ll give you an example of each: In an update for SC6 they made Sophitia’s 1A (which was already very slow by the way, like 24 frames or something) SLOWER due to the fact that “Players could not block in time due to online playing conditions” Explain this to me like I am five years old. You cannot, with a straight face, give me a good enough reason to PRIORITIZE that over legit issues in the battle system. Let’s go to TEKKEN, For a solid year, people complained about Nina’s b2,2,2 on CH being a homing, 12 frame, wallsplating, CH confirm move, so what do they do? Nerf the last hit only on CH…. TONE. DEAF. Feng’s db+2,2,2. Reminds me of the exact change they made to Sophitia’s 1A. Probably bad example, but you get the point. Do you notice how there is no explanation for each move, and no nerf, or buff arrow indicators in the latest patch notes? Yeah, they KNOW, are trying to hide the fact they are doing damage control, they are guilty and should be ASHAMED. As soon as I saw that “Feedback Portal” announcement I knew that it was six feet under. Back when testing used to be a thorough, investigative endeavor by testers or even high level players, this is now their way of using US for FREE to compensate for the laziness and budget cutting of paying passionate, dedicated individuals who are determined to give people like us a good product. (I believe location tests back in the arcade days made a huge impact by the way in balancing direction too) They had 8 months to hear us out, what makes you think that portal at the end of the day is going to make a difference when it's catered to people who can’t react to Feng’s db+2,2,2? Here’s what I would like to know, the battle system team who led development from T5DR all the way to season 3 of Tekken 7, where are they? Who are they? I would love to hear their take on this. This has Project Soul written all over it and I am inclined to believe that those individuals I mentioned that worked on previous installments did not inflict these atrocities to us in season 3. These people have shown us that after all of this time, they do not care about us and are basically spitting in our faces and laughing about it at this point. I cannot and will not support a product that has done irreparable damage to me, its loyal fans and the Fighting Game Community as a whole. Promises were made, promises were not kept. I feel betrayed, lied to and fooled. Fool me once, shame on them. Fool me twice? Shame on me. And I feel the shame. CONTENT CREATORS: I understand that it is within your best interest to keep people engaged and playing the game, but I am letting you know now. Do not be disingenuous to your audience and followers. This is wrong and you know it. Speak your mind, protest, do whatever you can to get the message out because I’m letting you know right now your viewers like YOU FOR YOU. Anything YOU do they will follow because they love you. Aris as the perfect example knew this, was smart about it, saw the writing on the wall before all of us and GOT THE HELL OUT while he could. I promise you this will not hurt you. Do the right thing. @nkt_dreamer & @mykeryu , if for some reason this gets to you, and you’ve managed to read the entire thing from a die-hard fan and competitor. Use whatever power you have to convince your staff, the team, your shareholders, your investors, Bandai, etc. I am BEGGING you PLEASE with whatever is left before it is too late to re release previous TEKKEN installments like TEKKEN 5 Dark Resurrection Online and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 with proper online functionality for modern consoles so we can cherish what once was that made all of us love TEKKEN so deeply forever. I will continue to do my work with Kanme and support my community. My last hoorah for keeping fighting games as a hobby is putting all of my faith and hope into Virtua Fighter. The FGC has changed my life, and I want to change everyone who is involved in it in a positive way as well. To close this out. How I am feeling right now is like I was in a committed relationship for 20 years and my significant other decided they wanted to just be friends. I cannot be friends with that person. They’ve changed and I love them too much to stay with them. I have to let them go. I cannot be friends with TEKKEN at this time. Victim_of_Ritual is completely dead.

@EnragedHowl -3 iirc, not -9 F2+3 used to be -9, now is -5

@Jesandy1572 King ss2 use to be -9 right?

"Accordingly, Season 3 does not guarantee dramatic, immediate shifts such as substantially strengthening defense or significantly weakening offense in ways that diverge from the intended gameplay philosophy of TEKKEN 8." Please reconsider this thought process.

@tsunadeQ1 1. I play King. 2. The patch is in my favor but I don't care because other characters are continuously losing their identity in ways that make no sense. 3. Other overt moves have yet to be addressed and new bugs/old bugs are back in So idgaFUCK if King or whoever is good.

@Jesandy1572 You play fkn lili the patch it’s in your favor

That's it for me for T8. I refuse to support a franchise that disregards feedback from its players and further derails itself from what Tekken stood for in the past. T8 developers should be ashamed of their incompetency in game balance and destroying the trust of their community.

@NoahBlack71500 My motivation to compete has been shot since last year since S2 dropped. I'm not sure if a new Tekken will do it for me, that's a bridge I'll cross when it happens. Lots of trust to rebuild and needs to be a good game overall. As of now though, no competing for the near future.

@Jesandy1572 so we arent going to see you compete AT ALL is what your saying? like never again until t9? or is this doom content?

@KungTerry4real @Uhhhh1980 Quit competing since November. Recently played again only to derust in anticipation of S3 after hearing/seeing what they had to offer only to have the rug pulled out from underneath again. Not motivated enough to want to play even casually anymore.

@Jesandy1572 @Uhhhh1980 tbf you have said you're quitting tekken on twitter before and then came back

@dealfredwins It's my own personal choice to quit. The game direction is senseless and continues to disrespect the playerbase by adding in more bloat/repeat bugs into the game. "Skill issue" Sure bud.

@Jesandy1572 All I know is in Pakistan or Korea I don’t see any big retarded “I’m quitting” posts so I’ll chalk this up to a dissapointing culture gap or skill issue and be on my way