@TFG_Football The same Trent Baalke that drafted the guys that, with a good coach and org, went 13-4. Chad Forbes, where you at.
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The thing I don't get about Jags fans defending their process is that it's literally what Trent Baalke did and we're just over a year removed from every Jags account on this app having the clown face on it.
This process, over time, consistency leads to bad drafts.
Jordan de Lugo@jordandelugo
Some common refrains I’ve heard in response to the Jaguars draft - arrogant - ignoring consensus I don’t think there is anything arrogant about an org establishing an extremely well thought out and collaborative process for scouting and evaluating talent and people …
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Think everyone's freaking out about WR playing time.
Will Parker, BTJ, Jakobi & Travis's snaps go down? Probably.
Will they run 13 personnel more that 30% a game? No.
It's all about versatility, having too many targets is a good problem to have. Jags are going to beat opposing defenses using a ton of different personnel/formations next year.
Reminder, Liam Coen said that he had to scale back & simplify the playbook last year. With a full year under everyone's belt your going to see the next evolution of his offense and i'm here for it. #DUUUVAL
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@meathead55 I just don’t see this guy panicking. He had 2-3 guys he wanted. I do think Pats took our guy, but think that the TE was on the board there also in case something like that happened. And have no proof or know anything to back any of that up.
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If rumors are true that Jags looked at giving up '27 1st Rd to get into bottom of 1st this year (Woods or Miller would be my guess), then Pats jump us in 2nd before we can grab Gabe Jacas, maybe Stoner panicked, and then just pivoted to grab our blocking TE target?
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@J_Collyay It’s so depressing that many of these people make tons of money to say whatever they want while some people have 4 year degrees and live paycheck to paycheck. Sports analysts are truly the new weather men. Just put it out there, don’t necessarily have to be right or accurate.
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Craziest spin on Jags draft class has come courtesy Greg Jennings
Said draft is an indication of Trevor and they don’t want to give him a bunch of tools because they’ve done that before and it didn’t work
Okay then
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@jordandelugo @SharpFootball @InsideTheGators That’s good material for Coach Coen to motivate. Keep the disrespect coming.
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@SharpFootball @InsideTheGators Who is this analyst featured in the video?
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absolutely brutal analysis of the Jaguars draft here:
"The arrogance that James Gladstone demonstrated in this draft is unprecedented.
I have never seen a more pathetic group of players from a team that had four top 100 picks"
more:
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Magic's Jamal Cain posterizes, then stares down Jalen Duren - via @ESPN App espn.com/video/clip/_/i…
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@JagsRealist While Lloyd had a great year, by most people’s account it was just the 1 year. Chances that he has another year like that are pretty rare. So I’m not sure front office sees much of a drop off between Lloyd and Ventrell. Lloyds year was truly lightning in a bottle.
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The only questions on the Jaguars roster to me are:
•Can Ventrell be the guy? And is the current surrounding LB depth good enough?
•Cole Van Lanens injury timeline
The only other question on the roster that I can fathom is if the running back room is ready to step up which I think will be a resounding yes
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@NFLDraftBites Wow, only 1 year??? Baalke fan? I don’t care either way, but would think judging a GM after one draft is a little harsh. Gotta think the convo between Boselli and Shad was more aligned with understanding team not meeting full potential, dropping the drama, and working together.
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Player Inherited by Liam Coen & James Gladstone from Trent Baalke
QB Trevor Lawrence
RB Travis Etienne
WR Brian Thomas Jr / Parker Washington
TE Brenton Strange
OT Van Lanen / Anton Harrison / Walker Little
G Ezra Cleveland
DL Arik Armstead / DaVon Hamilton / Maason Smith
Edge Travon Walker / Josh Hines-Allen
LBs Devin Lloyd / Oluokun / Ventrell Miller
CBs Montaric Brown / Tyson Campbell
S Antonio Johnson / Andrew Wingard
STs Cam Little / Logan Cooke / Matsick
Players Added in 2 Offseasons by current regime
QB Nick Mullens
RB Chris Rodriguez
WR Dyami Brown / Jakobi Meyers
TE Hunter Long / Johnny Mundt / Quintin Morris
OL Robert Hainsey / Chuma Edoga / Mekari
DL Matt Dickerson / Orhorhoro / Austin Johnson
Edge Emmanuel Ogbah / Dawuane Smoot / Gardeck
DBs Jourdan Lewis / Eric Murray / Keith Taylor / Newsome II
2025 Draft:
2. Travis Hunter Inspector Gadget Colorado
88. Caleb Ransaw DB Tulane
89. Wyatt Milum G West Virginia
104. Bhayshul Tuten RB Virginia Tech
107. Jack Kiser LB Notre Dame
194. Jalen McLeod LB Auburn
200. Rayuan Lane III S Navy
221. Jonah Monheim OL USC
236. LeQuint Allen RB Syracuse
UDFA:
Branson Combs
2026 Draft:
56. Nate Boerkircher TE Texas A&M
81. Albert Regis DT Texas A&M
88. Emmanuel Pregnon G Oregon
100. Jalen Williams CB Maryland
119. Wesley Williams DE Duke
164. Tanner Koziol TE Houston
191. Josh Cameron WR Baylor
203. CJ Williams WR Stanford
233. Zach Durfee DE Washington
240. Parker Hughes LB Middle Tennessee
Translation:
Over 16 months, we’ve witnessed the erosion of the Roster
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@jordandelugo He’s not wrong regarding who drafted who. Last years wins, to me, are more due to the coaching than the new GM. GM still really hasn’t proved himself much. He made some good moves, but he made some bad moves too regarding free agency. Just like a lot of GMs do.
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@YardLineYoda Not hard for me to realize that Gladstone, Boselli, and Cohen are probably better at drafting professional football players than I am.
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Much happier with the draft than I was when the first 2 picks happened. Not only because of how the rest of the draft/UDFA went but also I can see the vision with the first 2 guys now.
#Duuuval
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@BuckyBrooks I definitely don’t think this regime drafts BAP all of the time. They are definitely looking for players that fit their scheme.
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I will play along since you brought up a piece that was published near the end of last season.
1. Without being in each team’s room to understand how the player fits into their scheme, culture, and plans, we don't fully understand the why behind the selection. While outsiders might like a player at a certain value, it doesn’t really matter if the player doesn’t fit their scheme or preferred playing style. That's why “media” boards are tricky: you’re grading for 32 teams instead of one. When you work for a team, you’re only grading for what the coach/FO prefers and how the player compares to what’s currently on the roster or the ideal vision for the team. Thus, teams will have the same players graded differently due to style preferences, etc.
2. Assigning grades at the end of a season is standard practice for teams. Pro scouts routinely write reports and evaluate their own players to monitor growth and development. Additionally, those reports help drive personnel decisions down the road. Once a draftee plays for his team, it’s fair game BECAUSE he’s playing pro ball. Until the prospect plays, it’s all speculation.
3. As a media member, grades and mock drafts are desired content by the masses. It’s become a version of fantasy football that occasionally overshadows the purity of the scouting process. In the end, scouts focus primarily on whether a player is NFL-caliber and how he can produce for a team or system. The other stuff skews toward entertainment, but doesn’t offer the team much more beyond that
Arif Hasan, but NFL 🏈@ArifHasanNFL
We've lost the plot if draft analysts are trying to make the argument that we should not do draft analysis
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@YardLineYoda Feel like it’s hard to get a starter in the draft when you are a good team, but do you think any of these picks really challenge a player for their starting spot? Also do you feel we get 1-2 more free agents now that draft is over?
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Really happy with how some of the picks day 3 /UDFA signings went.
Tanner Koziol can be a star TE in this league and was my steal of the draft for that position.
Josh Cameron is baby Justin Blackmon with play style…100% makes the team.
Joey Aguilar can compete for QB2
Devon Marshall likely makes the team
They added about 100 UDFA WR’s lol…So may get a good one from that group.
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Josh Cameron is a bully at receiver.
Built like a running back. 6’1 and 220 lbs
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Can easily see Pregnon starting week 1. Husky will play a bunch too in the box I reckon. TE gonna play just as much as TE2. Regis maybe not but the other 3 have a good shot
Jason Hamby@Jason_Hamby14
Final thoughts: the #Jaguars got zero immediate impact. that doesn’t mean their draft was bad, just a tough sell. requires patience. Boerkircher will play right away in 12/13 but he’s not a gamechanger. what’s Regis doing game 1? Pregnon ain’t playing. neither is Huskey.
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@jordandelugo @jordandelugo you don’t think this has anything to do with possibly not resigning Strange, do you?
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Not the direction I would have gone, If that needed clarification.
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Jags clearly wanted a Y tight end with pass catching upside. They believe they got that with the 56th overall pick Nate Boerkircher, who will turn 25 on 904 day.
Showed some quickness and explosiveness in testing.
Massive reach according to consensus. Jags don’t care.
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@HaydenWinks Not outsmarting Snead. Could’ve gotten us a QB? Honestly, I feel like all GMs think they are smarter than everyone else. And just listening to Gladstone talk, he definitely thinks he’s smarter. We will see.
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I'm worried Jaguars GM James Gladstone thinks he's actually outsmarting the entire NFL...
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@Jason_Hamby14 He will grab 2 guys today that will start or either get a lot of reps. 1 being a RB. My prediction.
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Final thoughts: the #Jaguars got zero immediate impact.
that doesn’t mean their draft was bad, just a tough sell. requires patience.
Boerkircher will play right away in 12/13 but he’s not a gamechanger.
what’s Regis doing game 1?
Pregnon ain’t playing. neither is Huskey.
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@LeonSearcyJr1 If it was OL would we feel differently? How many times did we have to put an extra lineman out there to help Trevor stay on his feet. Makes more sense when you think about it like that to me. Blue chip guys to do some dirty work.
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