@_qwertygrl I mean, we kind of already do that... @allthingslabor/video/7524091515019332877?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7612306846552491550" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">tiktok.com/@allthingslabo…
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John Krumm 🌹🏍️
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John Krumm 🌹🏍️
@JohnKrumm
Socialist, Marxist, motorcyclist, looking for universal programs. Twin Ports DSA member. With friends and family in Duluth, MN. https://t.co/wysHak9gHb
Duluth, MN Katılım Ekim 2021
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@_qwertygrl Maybe a good compromise is our own TikTok stye app, with voting built in, and a required 3 day "deliberation" period where members post opposing videos. Creativity encouraged.
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if it’s possible for a member of any chapter to meaningfully “do DSA on their phone” that chapter has problems much deeper than its voting policy. and if your member engagement mechanism is holding voting rights hostage behind a bullshit zoom call, you are organizing wrong.
Cliff Connolly 👁️🗨️☧ 🇵🇸@CliffConnolly
When my chapter got rid of asynch voting and moved all decision-making to meetings, we saw a huge boost in attendance and participation not just at meetings, but at all Orlando DSA events. After all, if you can do DSA on your phone, why show up to anything?
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@bioleera This is most likely one or two disgruntled Right wing DFLers writing AI prompts to make a website.
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The dirty stay likely has an expiration date of some kind
The Humphrey Project@humphreympls
We're DFL volunteers fighting for the party Humphrey built: pragmatic, progressive, and built to govern. The DSA runs candidates on our ticket with a very different platform. We think voters should see it. thehumphreyproject.com
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@bioleera But it's inevitable that some DFL right-wing factions will feel increasingly cornered, probably funded by rich people, and put up shiny websites talking about how "extreme" DSA is.
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@bioleera Some DSA members wrote and passed resolutions that will likely go on to become part of the DFL platform, what the DFL "stands for."
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@TheDuhalde It’s turning into DSA wack-a-mole. I like the idea of 1M1V for national leadership, especially co-chairs, but you aren’t going change minds posting on social media.
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Maybe time to mute 1m1v for a day or two...love to everyone tho. Keep expressing yourselves.
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@Quirknky We have at least one member who says it helps a ton with her disability. I figure AI is bad because it's owned by capitalists, just like car companies are bad, oil companies are bad, chemical companies are bad, and beer companies are bad.
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Tbh even if you think AI is a useful tool, the obvious problem on campaigns you have to grapple with is staffers who aren’t like hyper invested will just check out and let the AI think for them.
Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesias
"The Democratic National Committee has barred staffers from using ChatGPT and Claude."
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@dj_mackelfresh @katewillett Same. 260 members, good meeting attendance and participation, and no caucuses. Old, young, students, workers, retirees, and parents and couples (married and not).
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@katewillett I’m glad I am a part of a chapter that doesn’t care about Caucasus and doesn’t really have to whip people for votes.
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When I was a paper member of DSA I got a lot whip texts and naively just did what I was asked bc I didn’t even know the right questions to ask.
In retrospect I was voting for caucuses I don’t align w/ at all. No one did anything wrong but can’t say my politics were represented.
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@Solidarity_Star My wife's impression of the convention (we are 60 year old socialists who generally really like DSA) was that she was at a large meeting of rival frat houses, and that the "deliberation" was empty posturing, and we could have voted from home and gone to an activist conference.
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This might be the best argument against 1M1V I’ve seen
habby@habby_swf
@blimp_juice That is because of yalls *member-controlled* caucuses which act as power-brokers Breaking up that power with 1M1V would put power in the hands of political figures with access to the largest audiences: politicians, staffers (that control mailing lists) and union bureaucrats
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@TheRealVarnVlog We are a volunteer organization, and there is only so much effort and time that members will put into things like designing a good system to check individual chapter wide meeting attendance (which I assume includes working groups). It's not going to happen.
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@TheRealVarnVlog Our chapter probably won't be organized enough to check prior attendance for every member before a vote. We are happy to have people show up! At our last meeting, an elderly woman gave our membership secretary her dues, but had not filled out the official online form. She voted.
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Honestly, members pay dues, dues is skin in the game, skin in the game gets to vote. I am okay with some votes requiring meeting attendance but in general, too many tiers in a system dooms it.
Charlotte@UtilityCalc
@trash_panda97 should a low political involvement voter not be able to vote on referendums and representatives? why should dsa be fundamentally less democratic than the state of california?
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@alsoconnor @Solidarity_Star @antifa_17 @GoodVibePolitik In most cases, DSA has a smoothing effect on politics during leadership, since the demands are administrative and functional. We unite over the power of spreadsheets and to-do lists.
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@alsoconnor @Solidarity_Star @antifa_17 @GoodVibePolitik Not sure if this is true, definitely not so in our chapter. But what is consistent is left-wing internal political ambition, and that goes a long way in DSA, a volunteer organization. People respect drive, especially in person.
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I think 1M1V should’ve functionally died when one of its supporters at the last national convention compared it to like Jim Crow laws that was probably the wildest thing I’ve ever seen
Groundwork@GroundworkDSA
Real chapter democracy rests on voting accessibility for every key decision and every leader in the organization. Every member should get a say, no exceptions.
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@katewillett Many chapters do. That’s up for the chapter to decide, via bylaws or resolution. In large chapters, that likely means at the chapter convention. When our electoral committee started, steering picked the chair and secretary, but later picks are internal (per the resolution).
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@JohnKrumm For chapter leadership I def agree everyone should vote, that’s already the case. In fact we need to make it more democratic and have proportional representation.
But some working groups have like 60 people, I don’t understand not letting them pick their own leaders
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If anyone really believed a membership org needs to operate exactly like a state, abolishing dues would be at the forefront of this debate.
It would be completely illegal for a state to charge $5-$15 a month to vote and we all know it.
Jay🚩🍺@ThatKid1871
DSA rightists stop using slavery/jim crow analogy whenever 1M1V comes up challenge
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@BuildJacobin @katewillett We show up to meetings and vote in person. We don't have a rule about people having to be in the chapter a certain time, though that will change with the Democracy Commission bylaws requirements (I think 30 days is the new standard). But we only have 260 members, not thousands.
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@chairmanmeowing @stylianos_k It’s all about the after parties
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@katewillett With smaller chapters, there is value to the in-person vote, it serves a social function. That's why in huge chapters, branches become important, and they should have a fair amount of autonomy, much more than t-shirt graphics and endorsements.
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@katewillett Really big chapters should vote like unions do. All dues paying members can vote. Member votes for contracts and sometimes leadership are online or by mail. Votes at a central labor body with delegates are in person. Steering, who knows. Smaller chapter are different.
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