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@viruminati @demondebo @4TheArsenal_ Exactly… I feel like world football somehow didn’t quite know how good he was while at Barca and then he landed at Arsenal and everyone was like WTF??

@demondebo @4TheArsenal_ He was tired of inconsistent game time at Barca

You get to bring one of these back for the final… Who you picking?

@scottjwillis Hmm … need a better passer!

Mateus Fernandes vs Martín Zubimendi - Central Mid Template I need to fix the download functionality here so sorry about the lower resolution view of the comparison chart.

@bowieclone @RedMarrow_ 💯 If you were being positive and trying to see the best in ppl you might say they’re sighing because “oh no, we’re going to have a make a massive call in a massive moment” … but with an Arsenal hat on it certainly sounds like “damn, it’s an Arsenal free kick”. 🤣

@JonRay_15 @RedMarrow_ And sound despondent that they spot a foul

What this shows is (and it's evident from real-time experience as well) that the VAR and refs already make up their minds regarding certain situations, and they then spend the next 5 minutes justifying them. This itself contradicts their 'clear and obvious error' VAR mandate, as you don't need 5 minutes for clear and obvious errors. The clip begins with "Possible foul on the keeper," and they got so tunnel-visioned into willing it into existence that they disregarded everything else happening in the box. Incompetence rather than corruption, imo.

@RedMarrow_ @VaibhavUp21 Find me a single example of an Arsenal player holding a keeper’s arm … I’ll wait.

@VaibhavUp21 The problem is they have allowed such types of fouls this season, especially from Arsenal players, and thereby set a precedent. This is now them going against the set precedent. Far too much inconsistent refereeing, which is the real issue.

@markgoldbridge @Rory_Talks_Ball No he made the right decision. Based on having eyes. And based on what everyone including professional referee analysts have said. What is alarming is that the VAR actually didn’t form a view at all and basically went “erm look at this we don’t really know”!

@Rory_Talks_Ball This is a VAR issue Rory. Take your Arsenal hat off, watch what he was shown. He got hardly any of the Trossard incident, and was shown the Raya foul first. He made the right choice based on what he was shown.

Just listened to the VAR audio from Arsenal vs West Ham. Feel sorry for the ref tbh. They review it, highlight two issues, then get him over, don't show him the full incidents and don't show it in order. Based on what he saw he makes the right call

@CatenaccioChris Except no one actually agrees that …

Says it all when every other clubs fans apart from Arsenal can agree that although there was a foul on Raya there was also multiple fouls committed by Arsenal players BEFORE the foul on Raya happened Correct decision would have been to disallow the goal and award West Ham a pen.

@DannyM12646153 @UberWestHam The ball dropped literally on the 6 yard box. There is no world in which Raya isn’t trivially catching that if not impeded. The rest really doesn’t matter. That’s why everyone not affiliated with City or West Ham has universally said it was the right decision.

@JonRay_15 @UberWestHam It’s a domino effect if Trossard wasn’t face hugging Pablo and Gabriel wasn’t holing down Pablo, he’d be up in the air contesting the airial competition?

VAR didn’t even show the referee the full length clip of Pablo being pulled into Raya by a player that doesn’t even have eyes on the ball. If you’re saying Pablo fouled Raya, you HAVE to check what led to the moment. Why’s everyone ignoring that? Robbed.

@Mr_BA6 “They” don’t agree anything. The VAR correctly assesses very quickly that there’s a clear foul on Raya. The AVAR then inexplicably keeps basically saying “yeah but what about XXX” despite (as outlined on MOTD) it really not being relevant! Mercifully Kavanagh wasn’t swayed.

That VAR audio is criminal. Firstly you can hear them saying “is that enough contact” then they agree there are fouls from Trossard on Pablo and Rice on Mavropanos but show the ref the wrong angle who tells them to hurry up. The ref was absolutely desperate to disallow. Criminal

@tomrenniesoccer I hear you. You are irrational and unable to interpret the signals your eyeballs provide to your brain. That’s ok. Go and lie down.

The foul. From Trossard. That informs everything that Pablo does in that sequence. Is “nothing”. It’s “nothing”. Not looking at the ball. Holding Pablo by the waist. Pulling him down. Preventing him jumping for the ball. It’s “nothing”. I give up with these people.

@themagic_tophat It’s quite impressive that the guy they had on MOTD outlined fairly clearly why those other fouls don’t matter … yet in the VAR booth all we have is an AVAR saying “yeeeaaahhh but what about Rice & Trossard eh??” We owe England and Kavanagh a pint for not losing their minds …

They said it wasn’t “clear & obvious” because it took so long. Nope - they saw the foul straight away. They just spent ages looking for a way not to give it or to find a pen for West Ham. All the while, ignoring the initial foul of Soucek on Havertz. Madness.

@Lea_EFC Are you actually joking?? The most obvious takeaway from that audio is that the VAR look at a bunch of things, fail to work out what they think AT ALL, and just call the ref over and say “errrr yeeeah there’s a foul on Raya and some others what ya think?” Shambles.

VAR has officiated that West Ham vs Arsenal incident at the weekend. VAR instructed Chris Kavanagh to look at the monitor, then suggested he looks at both Declan Rice and Leandro Trossard incidents but fails to provide him with conclusive footage of any fouls. Chris Kavanagh was only provided with footage to disallow the goal for a foul by Pablo on Raya. A better, stronger referee would have asked for more footage of the reported Rice and Trossard incidents. VAR has literally officiated that incident and put its own spin on it so Chris Kavanagh had no alternative but to disallow the goal from the inadequate footage provided. Make no mistake, VAR is officiating Premier League games now.

@GeorgeEllis_81 @DaleJohnsonBBC Watch them back. Ppl have already done compilations. They have obstructed / walled off keepers loads. What the Americans would call a “pick play” from Basketball. But they have not at any point held a keeper the way West Ham did and got away with it. That is a fact.

@DaleJohnsonBBC You're dreaming. They've been impeding goalkeepers all season, as have most other teams. As well as the half other dozen fouls going on in the box during set pieces that referees have chosen to ignore, so every team is at it now. It's been a slog of a season as a result.

Five 'fouls' in one move - breaking down West Ham v Arsenal and the Premier League corner chaos. 🔸 How the VAR would judge the passage of play 🔸 Comparing similar incidents this season 🔸 Where did this all start? 🔸 Potential solutions? 👇 bbc.co.uk/sport/football…

@pmak27 Even as an Arsenal fan that clearly is very happy with VAR today … imo yes. It is simply impossible to make subjective decisions that everyone agrees on, no amount of technology or training will ever change that.

Have we reached the point where VAR should only be used for offsides as that’s the only decision that is black & white. Everything else just let the officials make their decision. The Championship shows VAR really isn’t needed?

@HendrickD82 Find me a clip then. And not a bad faith clip that shows all the times Arsenal put bodies in the way etc. Find me a real clip that shows an Arsenal player holding a keepers shirt or pulling down his arm as he’s trying to catch it? Go on … there’s hundreds you said?

Literally hundreds of clips. Literally hundreds.

@henrywinter I like Cann’s suggestion but massive injury risk. You’d basically be creating a running start for both sides meeting at a ball…. With their heads. It’s pretty much the exact scenario the NFL has tried to remove from kickoffs the last few years. But with no helmets!

How to end the wrestle-mania scarring the Premier League? In all the fall-out to the (correct) VAR decision over the foul on Raya, some thought must now be given to stopping the free-for-all grappling at corners. Premier League and PGMO need to act on this embarrassment to the football it oversees. But how? More refereeing consistency would be a start. Operating a no-hands rule - as suggested by some - would be impossible. Contact will always happen in a crowded area. Darren Cann’s suggestion of no attackers in the six-yard box until the ball is played makes sense, as Cann’s suggestions invariably do. A working party of Cann, a former player and manager could easily advise PGMO on getting to grips with the grapplers.

@getprawned @markgoldbridge His entire tone has shifted since that purchase .. it’s so painfully obvious.

@markgoldbridge how much commission does gary neville get from your tweets

So bored of the referee and VAR glazing. It was controversial and inconsistent. And if it was up the other end and cost Arsenal the league non of these pundits would be praising the decision. Case closed

@markgoldbridge WH made it impossible to have a “good” outcome when they decided to just throw the kitchen sink, have two players impede Raya, and hope they got away with it! Either VAR steps in to make the RIGHT decision and cost WH relegation, or it shirks it and costs Arsenal the title….

The fact that Arteta and his staff were claiming handball straight away and not for a foul shows they didn’t think it was a foul on Raya. That says it all. Nowhere near clear and obvious.