Lucas Navallo

@SirCumference98 @B1lacklightning @TheFemoid You don’t need more than 2s to break completely going 45mph.

@LucasNavallo @B1lacklightning @TheFemoid Yeah I’ll just react away the 2 tons of steel travelling at 45mph. Either way a reaction time to a hazard averages at 1.5s, in that time the car has already travelled about 30m, and that’s conservatively assuming someone notices autopilot disengage immediately.

Wasn’t it proven that autopilot is programmed to disengage when it registers it’s about to crash? If it turns off 4 seconds before impact that means the autopilot caused the crash How are we this stupid

@ImHereToHateOn @TheFemoid Does FSD or AP disable user control?

@LucasNavallo @TheFemoid If i speed up to 60 mph and then jump out of the car 4 seconds before it hits a building, am i free of guilt? I had no control over the vehicle in the moments preceding the crash. I wasn't even in the vehicle.

@B1lacklightning @TheFemoid humanbenchmark.com/tests/reaction…

@LucasNavallo @TheFemoid lol do you think she’s dom toretto ? What was she going to do in those 4 seconds ?

@teameffujoe @JoeyCaruso3 Romans 11:25.

@JoeyCaruso3 Romans 11:26

You cannot claim to follow the God of the Bible and not be a Zionist.

@NielsPluijmen @FredLambert Is that so? Can any of the ones you mentioned drive thousands of miles without touching the steering wheel like a Tesla can?

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert I’m not missing that point. The whole market is actively shifting toward software-defined vehicles (SDVs) and autonomous capabilities. Some are already there. Some are still in the figuring out how through in house programmes. Some buy off the shelf. XPeng, BYD, Bosch, VW, NIO.

Xiaomi's cars now have lidar, high-def radar, and cameras with auto cleaning. But sure, "no one will ever catch up to Tesla"

@AdyG28 @FredLambert Oh wow, there's 100,000's of superchargers in the UK? Tesla barely has ~2,100 in the US for comparison. That's wild.

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert 100,000s of chargers from different providers, take your pick really. I dont really use them as I'm fine with my cars 270 mile range & cheap overnight EV electricity tariff. 3.5p/kwh. zapmap.com/live/

@AdyG28 @FredLambert So you are relying on other chargers?

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert We don't have to rely on tesla chargers, we have many fast chargers all over the country, many are 800v and faster than Tesla. 🙂

@NielsPluijmen @FredLambert You're missing the point. The point is that Tesla is far ahead of all other competitors by producing - at the largest scale - vehicles that can gain autonomy capabilities through software updates, not hardware updates at all. What other competitor is as close as they are?

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert Are you trying to sell me a far far away future possibility? L5 is not up for at least a decade. It’s a regulatory thing. Still unsure if current technology platform can scale and provide that functionality. A single software update is a pipe dream.

@AdyG28 @FredLambert So you're relying on other supercharger providers and one of them - the biggest one - being Tesla? Tell me, how again are competitors catching up to Tesla when having to rely on their network?

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert Oops didn't realise you're American, we have much bigger choices in the UK & Europe, 100s of models of EVs & many charging stations to choose from, also majority of Tesla chargers are open to all, 900km takes me to any point in thr UK without a charge stop.

@MissJilianne Can we get an example of somebody saying it's "perfectly safe"?

Tesla Full Self-Driving makes mistakes, that’s why it requires human supervision. Anyone who tells you it’s perfectly safe, isn’t being truthful to you.

@AdyG28 @FredLambert Good to know people are okay with being bound to a 900km radius!

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert With 900km of range, it's owner isn't worrying about many supercharger stops, just home/destination chargers.

@NielsPluijmen @FredLambert Vision-only Robotaxi that could enable millions of hardware-ready vehicles to have Unsupervised FSD capabilities through a single software update isn't innovative enough for you?

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert Lag technology (Robotaxi), Lag Regulatory and Safety come to mind.

@MissJilianne So no influencers traveled to Austin to show Robotaxi when it first came out? @grok Fact check this man.

There’s a reason we don’t see hundreds of Tesla influencers showing us how amazing Unsupervised Robotaxi is.

@NielsPluijmen @FredLambert In what way is Tesla catching up to others?

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert It might be that Tesla is just catching up to others.

@NielsPluijmen @FredLambert No, I don’t

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert You assume they are catching up to Tesla?

@DylanFitz47 @dead_baseball Is there a speedometer that shown the vehicle was going 60 mph?

@LucasNavallo @dead_baseball Eyes

Overlooking that FSD was driving 60 mph in a 15 mph zone when the human took over.

@jsin215 @dead_baseball That’s cool and all, but it doesn’t look like 60mph at all.

@LucasNavallo @dead_baseball Several people have done the fps math

@pcwithspoiler_ @FredLambert How do we know that?

@LucasNavallo @FredLambert it's going 60-70 in a 15 mph zone dude

Tesla fans using the “4-second disengagement” as a gotcha are missing the forest for the trees. Yes, the driver was technically in control of the vehicle at the moment of impact. But she was in control because FSD was already failing by driving too fast ahead of this sharp turn — it was heading straight into a concrete barrier at highway speed with no sign of correcting. Everyone who has frequently used FSD or Autopilot and paints this 4-second disengagement as a “gotcha” moment is being disengenous, and that includes Elon Musk. I have tens of thousands of miles on FSD, and I’ve experienced the system coming too fast into a turn at least half a dozen times. We’ve said this before and we’ll keep saying it: the problem with FSD isn’t what happens when the driver is paying attention and the system works. The problem is what happens when the system gives you every reason to trust it, and then suddenly doesn’t work. The driver has to recognize the failure, assess the situation, decide on a correction, and physically execute it, all in less time than the system needs to create the danger. Musk and Tesla’s propagandists can point to the logs all they want. The video shows what actually matters: FSD approaching a standard highway curve at full speed with zero indication it was going to navigate it. That’s the failure. Everything that happened after, including the panicked disengagement, is a consequence of that failure. The framing that this was “manual driving, not FSD” is technically true for the final 4 seconds and deeply dishonest about the full sequence of events. It’s exactly the kind of liability shell game that courts are increasingly rejecting, as that $243 million verdict makes clear. Tesla created the system, sold it as “Full Self-Driving,” and profits from the ambiguity. At some point, it has to own the consequences.